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3 years later, Taylor Hall Vs. Tyler Seguin

View Poll Results: Tyler Vs Taylor
Taylor Hall 449 57.94%
Tyler Seguin 326 42.06%
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02-05-2013, 09:38 PM
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I still would've taken Seguin if I was the Oilers.

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02-05-2013, 09:58 PM
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In 2010/11 - Tyler Seguin scored a goal approximately every 12 minutes he was on the ice. Taylor Hall scored approximately every 18 minutes he was on the ice.

In 2011/12 - Tyler Seguin scored a goal approximately every 16 minutes he was on the ice. Taylor Hall scored (again) approximately every 18 minutes he was on the ice.

This year has only been 8 games. It's too small of a sample size to make any judgements yet.

That being said, Tyler Seguin scores more often than Taylor Hall. He's just on the ice significantly less - due to the team he plays on.
What are you talking about..?

In Seguin's rookie season, he scored 11 goals in 903 minutes, which is one goal per 82.1 minutes played. In Hall's rookie season, he scored 22 goals in 1183 minutes which is a goal per 53.8 minutes.

In their sophomore seasons, Hall had one goal per 41.1 minutes and Seguin had one goal per 47.3 minutes.

What am I missing here?

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02-05-2013, 10:06 PM
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Hall has elite speed, and major junior hands. If he ever develops soft hands, he's a fifty goal scorer. He may never do that, though. I still picked him over Tyler.

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02-05-2013, 10:13 PM
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Was on the Seguin bandwagon from day 1.

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02-05-2013, 10:18 PM
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Seguin.
For some reason I have an irrational hate towards Hall.

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02-05-2013, 10:21 PM
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lol i love how hall supporters actually back up their arguments with facts / stats etc but seguin supporters just say "seguin" and thats it. Or post false stats lol

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02-05-2013, 10:22 PM
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In 2010/11 - Tyler Seguin scored a goal approximately every 12 minutes he was on the ice. Taylor Hall scored approximately every 18 minutes he was on the ice.

In 2011/12 - Tyler Seguin scored a goal approximately every 16 minutes he was on the ice. Taylor Hall scored (again) approximately every 18 minutes he was on the ice.

This year has only been 8 games. It's too small of a sample size to make any judgements yet.

That being said, Tyler Seguin scores more often than Taylor Hall. He's just on the ice significantly less - due to the team he plays on.

I'm a Bruins fan but these numbers are absurd. If this was true they'd both be scoring goals at legendary paces.

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02-06-2013, 12:15 AM
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What are you talking about..?

In Seguin's rookie season, he scored 11 goals in 903 minutes, which is one goal per 82.1 minutes played. In Hall's rookie season, he scored 22 goals in 1183 minutes which is a goal per 53.8 minutes.

In their sophomore seasons, Hall had one goal per 41.1 minutes and Seguin had one goal per 47.3 minutes.

What am I missing here?
Maybe its total points, because the above stat would make them both gpg

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02-06-2013, 12:33 AM
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Pretty similar to when they were drafted.

Hall has the higher potential still, but Seguin is the more complete player. I'd much rather have Seguin on my team.

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02-06-2013, 07:57 AM
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Unlike Yakupov/Galchenyuk (for now) and especially Landeskog/RNH, this is one poll where you can justify taking the guy the Oilers didn't pick. I'm not saying it's a slam dunk for Seguin but if I'm the Oilers and I could do it all over again I'd take Tyler over Taylor. Hall is still a good player and the thing that separates it for me is the position of centre vs. winger.

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02-06-2013, 10:18 AM
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I prefer Taylor Hall on my team, just as most Bruins fans would prefer Seguin. Hall is the Oilers best player this year. He is the driving force of the offence, the teams intensity and has underrated playmaking ability. The Hall-RNH-Ebs line is able to play at there best 5v5 when Hall is at his best.

With that said, I sure hope Seguin picks him up as I am a big fan and I am counting on him in my pool!!

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02-06-2013, 10:19 AM
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Seguin for me. I like his overall game. He seems like a more complete player at this stage of his career. Hall needs to use his linemates better IMO.
But to be fair I think he also plays on a much better team and has been eased into his position while Hall has had to take on a bigger role faster. One of my concerns with Hall is also his style of play and his tendency to come through the middle of the ice with his head down. He is going to miss a lot of games unless he learns to play smarter.
Having said all of the above, it's still early days and this could go either way.

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02-06-2013, 10:38 AM
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02-06-2013, 11:21 AM
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As much as I love Ebs he's not the driving force that Hall is. What Pucklington said about him being "the straw that stirs the drink" is perfectly apt. People who insist Eberle is better are just going by last years point totals. There's something to be said about actually watching them play.
Then you watch them play and notice Eberle makes less stupid turnovers, creates more offense, and is generally a better player.

Of course if you're going to go by things like win totals within lineup then you're ignoring that when a bad team with little depth loses one of their better players they will, of course, be worse.

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02-06-2013, 11:25 AM
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Seguin for me. I like his overall game. He seems like a more complete player at this stage of his career. Hall needs to use his linemates better IMO.
But to be fair I think he also plays on a much better team and has been eased into his position while Hall has had to take on a bigger role faster. One of my concerns with Hall is also his style of play and his tendency to come through the middle of the ice with his head down. He is going to miss a lot of games unless he learns to play smarter.
Having said all of the above, it's still early days and this could go either way.
Hall doesn't do this. If he has been hit hard, it's while trying to squeeze bast the Dman on the LW tight against the boards. In fact, I can't think of one instance in which Hall was rocked in the open ice.

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Then you watch them play and notice Eberle makes less stupid turnovers, creates more offense, and is generally a better player.

Of course if you're going to go by things like win totals within lineup then you're ignoring that when a bad team with little depth loses one of their better players they will, of course, be worse.


you use the term "watch them play and notice.." and come to that conclusion, which is simply not true.
fact is...if you ask any Oiler fan who watch both play, most will tell you that you are incorrect.

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I like Seguin's game more, but Taylor Hall is the better player (they are both wingers now)

- Seguin has benefit playing with Bergeron.

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Again Overrated vs. Underrated..... Hall being the most underrated player on HFboards.

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02-06-2013, 11:52 AM
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Seguin for me, but I understand why others would choose Hall

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Seguin.

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02-06-2013, 12:59 PM
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Unlike Yakupov/Galchenyuk (for now) and especially Landeskog/RNH, this is one poll where you can justify taking the guy the Oilers didn't pick. I'm not saying it's a slam dunk for Seguin but if I'm the Oilers and I could do it all over again I'd take Tyler over Taylor. Hall is still a good player and the thing that separates it for me is the position of centre vs. winger.
True true, but Seguin isnt center as of yet, not clear he will ever be

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02-06-2013, 01:14 PM
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Eberle



Using deranged cliches doesn't make hall their best player.
The metaphor wasn't why that poster things Hall is their best player. The metaphor conveyed his pre-existing judgement. I don't know why you are attacking the "cliche" and not the idea at hand.

Using one word answers doesn't make Eberle their best player!

See what I did there?


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I think that the choice is clearly Hall but it's not a super wide margin or anything. Seguin is still a very fine player that Boston should be happy with.

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Damn does Hall ever fly. Makes heady passes too. Still up in the air. I'll take Hall.

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That's just not true.
All Oilers fans will say he is, everyone else says Eberle is the best because his offensive numbers.

Hall creates so much space for linemates with his speed and is great at carrying the puck. I like Eberle a lot but I think Hall is the Oilers heartbeat.

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