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02-06-2013, 12:20 PM
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Yakupov is going to be a stud, Oilers won't regret anything.
He'll be good until he's 27 and then he'll marry some hot Russian babe who's going to drain him of all his juice (see Ovechkin).

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02-06-2013, 12:21 PM
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Too early to tell. Both are skilled that's undeniable. Yakupov has the goal scoring edge, he's strong and is a bull on the ice. Galchenyuk has the play-making edge, he's also strong has nice speed and battles the front of the net as well as the boards. I'd say Yakupov has faced tougher lines. But some of the plays Gachenyuk has done have been, just pro.

I'd say they are fairy even right now. That said I'm glad we got Gally over Yakupov only because he fills a need we've desperately longed for.

I'd love to make a trade to acquire Yakupov and get a Galchenyuk/Yakupo line. One can dream, can't he?

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02-06-2013, 12:24 PM
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Selling the little irish kid short, are we ?
What ?

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02-06-2013, 12:26 PM
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but right now Galchenyuk is producing everything on his own...
Gallagher is not some kind of scrub.

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Indeed.

Kane will get you the important goal in the Stanley Cup game.That being said, you don't get there without a Jonathan Toews.
You need both to win the cup. Oilers already have RNH. Yakupov was an easy pick for them. I think he can devlop into a leader type but he's just immature now, like most 18 year olds.

I like RNH but feel Gal will be a better player overall including intangibles / leadership.

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02-06-2013, 12:45 PM
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Gallagher is not some kind of scrub.
He's a rookie and not on the same level as Hemsky and Gagner yet. I'm not short-selling him at all. If you think Gallagher is on the same level as the Oilers Top 6 forwards, you are vastly overrating him...

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02-06-2013, 12:46 PM
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I am under the impression that Galchenyuk was never even a thought in Edmonton's mind on draft day.

It was either Ryan Murray or Nail Yakupov

Also, while Nail is on the 2nd line, Chuckie and him are basically averaging around the same ice time per game. Both getting some PP time as well.

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02-06-2013, 12:49 PM
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He's a rookie and not on the same level as Hemsky and Gagner yet. I'm not short-selling him at all. If you think Gallagher is on the same level as the Oilers Top 6 forwards, you are vastly overrating him...
Gallagher is playing just as well as Chuck.

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02-06-2013, 01:21 PM
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I am under the impression that Galchenyuk was never even a thought in Edmonton's mind on draft day.

It was either Ryan Murray or Nail Yakupov
Sure seemed that way. They even seemed to like Grigorenko more than Galchenyuk as Grigorenko visited them in EDM, while Alex did not.

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02-06-2013, 01:27 PM
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Points wise they are pretty equal, just distributed differently. However the big difference in is the +/-...

Yakupov: -6
Gally: +5

I would rather have someone who is more responsible defensively on my team.

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02-06-2013, 01:27 PM
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Gallagher is playing just as well as Chuck.
Gallagher has two years on Chuckie and Chuckie missed a whole year of development. Still Little Gally is going to be very fun to watch. I hope he turns into Fleury 2.0 without the boozing.

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02-06-2013, 01:31 PM
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Gallagher has two years on Chuckie and Chuckie missed a whole year of development. Still Little Gally is going to be very fun to watch. I hope he turns into Fleury 2.0 without the boozing.
It's not about chuck vs Gally here.

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02-06-2013, 02:18 PM
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Too early to tell. Both are skilled that's undeniable. Yakupov has the goal scoring edge, he's strong and is a bull on the ice. Galchenyuk has the play-making edge, he's also strong has nice speed and battles the front of the net as well as the boards. I'd say Yakupov has faced tougher lines. But some of the plays Gachenyuk has done have been, just pro.

I'd say they are fairy even right now. That said I'm glad we got Gally over Yakupov only because he fills a need we've desperately longed for.

I'd love to make a trade to acquire Yakupov and get a Galchenyuk/Yakupo line. One can dream, can't he?
I agree, it's a dream, and obviously the Oilers are extremely pleased with Yakupov. Who wouldn't be?

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02-06-2013, 02:26 PM
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Im sure everyone would have picked Ovechkin before Malkin in his first 3 years in the NHL, now, im pretty sure everyone would pick Malkin over Ovechkin.

As for stats, remember that Yakupov also plays Gagner and Hemsky who have NHL experience and can score. Galchenyuk plays with another rookie and an enforcer/PK specialist. He still have 7 pts in 8 games playing on the 3rd line which is impressive.

Having 1st pick last year, Im not sure which one I would have picked, I always thought that Gally was exactly what the club needed and was more of a complete player but Yakupov's pure talent and drive was hard to resist and I cant blame Edmonton for drafting him.
All are good points and I don't disagree with any of them.

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02-06-2013, 02:34 PM
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He's a rookie and not on the same level as Hemsky and Gagner yet. I'm not short-selling him at all. If you think Gallagher is on the same level as the Oilers Top 6 forwards, you are vastly overrating him...
Let's not act like Hemsky and Gagner are superstars...plus Yakupov doesn't have Markov and Subban behind him.

Plus Galchenyuk's 3rd line is a soft matchup line, they are playing in a very advantageous offensive position. That doesn't make what he's doing any less impressive though, because the same can be said about RNH last year.

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Gallagher is playing just as well as Chuck.
Two very different types of players with two different types of talent. I'm still waiting for Gallagher to set up Galchenyuk the way the later does...

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02-06-2013, 02:41 PM
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Let's not act like Hemsky and Gagner are superstars...plus Yakupov doesn't have Markov and Subban behind him.

Plus Galchenyuk's 3rd line is a soft matchup line, they are playing in a very advantageous offensive position. That doesn't make what he's doing any less impressive though, because the same can be said about RNH last year.
Hemsky when healthy is a star player, not superstar, but a star. I never implied Gagner was a star.

... and Subban ? 2 games in ???

I never said Yakupov was bad and Galchenyuk better... I'm just tired to read that somehow goals are more important than assists when judging a player's production. Is Diaz bad because he hasn't scored all season long so far or Malkin because he only has 2 goals in 10 games ?

The poster said Yakupov's 5 goals were more impressive than Galchenyuk 6 assists... I pointed out that Galchenyuk 6 assists were extremely impressive... as impressive as Yakupov's production if not more.

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02-06-2013, 02:51 PM
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So IF Edmonton takes Gally, Columbus takes Yakupov.... Habs are ending up with Murray...

Yakupov was and still is the perfect pick for Edmonton.

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02-06-2013, 02:53 PM
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Two very different types of players with two different types of talent. I'm still waiting for Gallagher to set up Galchenyuk the way the later does...
He did, but a buffalo Dman got a hang of it and scored himself.

And I bet 100% of us wouldn't be able to bury the chances Gally buried.

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Points wise they are pretty equal, just distributed differently. However the big difference in is the +/-...

Yakupov: -6
Gally: +5

I would rather have someone who is more responsible defensively on my team.
-6?

To me, the important question is: Who will/can best cope with playoff hockey? And based on what I saw so far, I think I know the answer.

I really wonder how good Gally would have been if he didn't miss so many games due to injury...

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02-06-2013, 03:06 PM
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He did, but a buffalo Dman got a hang of it and scored himself.
So he didn't.. that's the whole point of a good playmaker... passes that gets threw.

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And I bet 100% of us wouldn't be able to bury the chances Gally buried.
I'll give you a chance to erase that last part... which is as pointless as it gets.

But I agree that Gallagher is a natural goal scorer.

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02-06-2013, 03:07 PM
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It's a bit easy to say now that Edmonton should have picked Gally when his knee was still kind of a question mark to many people. Gally was a risk. Right now it seems it was a risk worth being taken.

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02-06-2013, 03:39 PM
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I dont know which player is better but i do think Yakupov is not what the Oilers need if they want to become a winning team. I see Galchenyuk being that kind of player and he could've been one missing piece to the puzzle. I cant say if Edmonton made a mistake when picking Yakupov but if they had the chance to trade their pick 1-3 spots down with a good return then they should've taken it and choose Galchenyuk or Murray instead.

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02-06-2013, 03:58 PM
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Like another dude mentioned no one will regret anything if they reach their potential one will be a legendary sniper the other one a do-it-all magician. Btw yakupov is a lot more intelectual than ovechkin so i dont think he will downgrade the way ovy has.

Its reall like when ovechkin and malkin got drafted... but to be honest yakupov as a chance to be better than ovy if he can stay healthy for the reason above... but due to his size it wont be easy... while galchenyuk is far from being as quick as malkin was at the samw age have you ever seen his compilation when he was playing in russia? Just awsomeness... galchenyuk isnt has big either but lot bigger than yakupov on the other end gally seems like he has a lot of untapped potential. Well see i guess.


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02-06-2013, 04:16 PM
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I think Ovie was the victim of being too dominant...because of his size he was able to power through people and never learned to adjust his game.

Yak is built like a tank but he's smaller, which means he needs to already needs a more complex game to be effective..I think he's already a little more multidimensional than Ovechkin and has more incentive to get better that way...he's not as good as Ovie at the same age of course but it wouldn't surprise me if he ends up having a more successful overall career.

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