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02-06-2013, 04:32 PM
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Funny thing is if Komi played just like Fraser has been everyone would praise how well Komi is playing this season, but not Fraser because he's a "no name"

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02-06-2013, 04:33 PM
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he is a better option than Komo...

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02-06-2013, 04:36 PM
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he is a better option than Komo...
No he isn't.

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Funny thing is if Komi played just like Fraser has been everyone would praise how well Komi is playing this season, but not Fraser because he's a "no name"
The very fact that nobody is talking about Komisarek this year means that he's doing his job.


Fraser is not really a better option than Komisarek. If you disregard the earning differential, they are basically the same type of player but with Komisarek being better.

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02-06-2013, 04:37 PM
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I like what he brings to the table. I honestly dont see a massive difference in his game and Schenns.

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02-06-2013, 04:40 PM
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His skating gives me nightmares.

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Shut down my ass, he's nothing more than a bruiser with hands of stone and can't clear a puck if his life depended on it. Let's not let a couple of good games here and there let us label people as shut down d-man, that's a hefty title.

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02-06-2013, 05:02 PM
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I like what he brings to the table. I honestly dont see a massive difference in his game and Schenns.
Well thats easy, draft position.

Leaf fans overrate prospects.

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02-06-2013, 05:07 PM
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I wouldn't even call Fraser a prospect....I'd call him a Marlie that happens to play for the Leafs.

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02-06-2013, 05:09 PM
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Kind of not really a mentioned Leaf much on these boards, but seems to really be flying under the radar and is seldom mentioned.

He has looked fairly solid to so far to me.

He's physical, will hit, can fight, and makes smart plays defensively.

Would like to see more of what he can bring, but his +4 leads the team right now.

Don't see increased minutes for him...but guys like Komisarek havve to be looking over their shoulders.
well on a tanking team kostka amnd fraser are fine .....once we get decent no placefor either

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02-06-2013, 05:10 PM
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I don't think he's any worse than Mike Komisarek who Leafs fans seem to be absolutely infatuated with at this current time.

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02-06-2013, 05:51 PM
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He looks okay. Can't really tell with an AHL callup how well they can handle the NHL until they've played a good chunk of games. Then you can see if they've adapted to the faster pace or not. Right now Fraser is reacting a little bit slow but is fine in a fairly sheltered role. You wouldn't want the guy caught on an icing with the Stamkos line coming on for the faceoff, that's for sure.

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02-06-2013, 06:07 PM
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Leaf fans: If you're a PMD, you are bad defensively. If you are a shut-down/bigger defenseman, you can't clear the zone.

Worst fans in the NHL.
OT but if a PMD was good defensively then they wouldn't be a PMD he would be called a two-way defensemen, the term PMD is a term used to describe a player who can move the puck up the ice and help out offensively but is weak in his own zone.

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02-06-2013, 06:27 PM
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I like what he brings to the table. I honestly dont see a massive difference in his game and Schenns.
Exactly this.

Seven games is not a very large sample size, and it remains to be seen whether or not there is any consistency to his game. But frankly, thus far, I like him. He plays a simple game. He can hit, he can fight, and has been relatively sound in his own zone.

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02-06-2013, 06:31 PM
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I've lost count of the number of times that Mark Fraser has failed to clear the zone when he has had ample opportunity.

Nevermind the fact that Carlyle likes to throw out the Orr line when he is on the ice. It's like he is daring the other team to try and pin us in our own end.

Fraser has no role on this team long-term.
I disagree, I thought he was fine, and better than Holzer. His first pass has been excellent, and he has poise on the ice. He should make a fine bottom pairing D in the NHL; the fact he can fight as well, is a bonus.

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02-06-2013, 06:36 PM
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He's not a future anything. He's just a 26 year old 6-7th defenseman who can fight from time to time.

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02-06-2013, 06:44 PM
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Fraser is terrible.

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02-06-2013, 07:08 PM
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Hes kinda like a Komisarek with a clean slate. Keep him as a 7th dman and alternate him with the 6th when you need a bit of grit and size to compete against teams with bigger players and hes great.
This is right on.

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Funny based on the responses you can tell who's watched the game and who hasn't. He's been solid for us this year. He has had a couple wtf moments, but really who on D doesn't once in a while? He had a good first past out of the zone, is physical, clears the net and is a plus 4. I don't get how people bash Fraser but then praise Kostka lol.
I do watch the games, but don't get all that excited when one of our defencemen doesn't completely suck. I like Fraser, and its good to have a guy like him as a seventh dman. Doesn't matter if he sits a few games (not wasting potential development) and can come back in and kick some a** and not be absolutely terrible. But in no way would I want him as a shutdown guy. A "shutdown defenceman" shuts down (hence the name) the other teams superstars. I would hate to be in a position where Fraser is given the responsibility to shutdown Crosby or Malkin.
And btw, I wouldn't praise Kostka. He pleasantly surprised me, but I didn't jump on that bandwagon.

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02-06-2013, 08:07 PM
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Fraser blows

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02-06-2013, 08:10 PM
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I prefer Komisarek sadly tbh

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02-07-2013, 07:44 PM
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He's the only D Man we got that'll knock an opponent on their keister in front of the net. Dion isn't playing very physical this year so we need somebody on the blueline to punish people.

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02-10-2013, 11:54 AM
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Love having a mean mofo like Fraser on our bottom pair. Dale Mitchell for Fraser, works for me!!!

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02-10-2013, 01:19 PM
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Everyone knocking him is out to lunch. He is presently better than that,and the future looks great. Plus minus leader on the team,and plays simple. Awsome to have him.

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02-10-2013, 01:22 PM
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He is a very serviceable bottom pairing guy. Nothing more nothing less.

That said, I love having him on the team. He brings grit and leadership to the team.

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02-10-2013, 01:36 PM
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Lol... he's been steady, but no.

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02-10-2013, 01:46 PM
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He's been great in his role. He's a bottom pairing, depth guy who's playing simple, effective hockey. A cheap option to have on the back-end and someone I'd keep in the fold.

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