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02-06-2013, 04:02 PM
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Blaming Hummels entirely for a defense featuring Mertesacker and Howedes at LB is silly. Especially when Jogi Loew is "coaching" the team.

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02-06-2013, 04:23 PM
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When he has Badstuber with him he had other excuses. You can't ignore his poor performance again tonight. When was the last bad performance by Thiago Silva or Kompany? 2010?

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02-06-2013, 04:25 PM
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I guess England are World Cup contenders again?

lets see how their media act lol

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02-06-2013, 04:28 PM
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Rasmus Elm with a freekick goal. 2-3 final result.

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02-06-2013, 04:29 PM
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Haha Hummels again humiliated by Ribery there. Sakho OTOH playing great.

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02-06-2013, 04:34 PM
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Ozil with a fantastic pass just as France was about to score. Wow.

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02-06-2013, 04:35 PM
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Sweden played pretty well anyway. One of Argentinas goal were clearly offside and Lustig scored an own goal so...

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02-06-2013, 04:54 PM
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First german win in France since 1935. Could (or should) have been a draw I guess. Entertaining game, Ribéry and Özil stood out. I'm just happy to see a well played game again, even if it was shaky on defense.

I had a good chuckle at the crowd shot showing the two old guys with berets, and then lost it when they simultaneously ate their baguettes Priceless

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02-06-2013, 04:56 PM
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Blaming Hummels entirely for a defense featuring Mertesacker and Howedes at LB is silly. Especially when Jogi Loew is "coaching" the team.
well Merte was clearly better than him today (looked solid) and Höwedes wasn't worse, at least at defense. Hummels did look shaky.

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02-06-2013, 04:58 PM
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Nice friendly. Congrats to both teams.

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02-06-2013, 05:00 PM
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well Merte was clearly better than him today (looked solid) and Höwedes wasn't worse, at least at defense. Hummels did look shaky.
He did, but saying Hummels was bad in the CL this season or Euros (save for that one mistake against Italy) is ridiculous. He has by now proven more than enough that he can perform at the international level.

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02-06-2013, 05:05 PM
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Sweden need to improve defensively, they seem to have no troubles scoring though (kind of like BiH, but BiH have a great keeper to cover their crappy defens)

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02-06-2013, 05:11 PM
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*Shrug* time and time again Hummels bailed out the rest of the D with attack breaking tackles. He wasn't at his best today with a couple mistakes, Hummels played reasonably well today. Miles better than Merte or Howedes. I mean we're not ******** on Sakho for his mistakes today are we? And Mats clearly outplayed him as well as the german CBs today.

Our defense is just poorly organized by Loew, he loves playing a plodder in a high line who Mats has to clean up for is steadfast in his refusal to use real FBs to back up Lahm and Schmelzer. Why exactly would this not have been a perfect chance to see what Oczipka can do with the NT?

Anyway positives from the match:
Ozil is briliant, simply isn't a #10 that comes close to him right now
Khedira but in a shift, got forward well, helped us link and retain play, beautiful goal.
Gundogan, kid had an excellent game today, retaining the ball, and hit an excellent ball on Mueller's goal.
Not having another striker lead to Loew giving the strikerless formation another try. Kroos and Ozil showed good understanding after the change, swapping around in front of Gundogan-Khedira, and our attack looked much more fluid and dangerous than with Gomez up top.


Ribery again showing why he's the best winger not named Ronaldo in the world, we managed to do a decent job of containing him, but a player like him will always create danger.

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02-06-2013, 05:19 PM
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He did, but saying Hummels was bad in the CL this season or Euros (save for that one mistake against Italy) is ridiculous. He has by now proven more than enough that he can perform at the international level.
Hummels has too many down games at the international level (CL and Germany games) to be hyped as much as he is on these boards.
Heck, we've read here in another thread that someone would take him over Thiago Silva over the next 5 years. Ouch.

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*Shrug* time and time again Hummels bailed out the rest of the D with attack breaking tackles. He wasn't at his best today with a couple mistakes, Hummels played reasonably well today. Miles better than Merte or Howedes. I mean we're not ******** on Sakho for his mistakes today are we? And Mats clearly outplayed him as well as the german CBs today.
Come on, Mertesacker had a solid game. Hummels made one good thing in this game and that was his 92nd minute tackle. That was worthy of a stud CB.
But he played that game looking slow, heavy, uninspired, and most of all hesitant and shaky.
Sakho made mistakes in this game? Which? How did any german CB outplay him today? He was excellent and played great.

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Agreed with the rest.

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02-06-2013, 05:23 PM
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I guess we'll have to disagree cause Merte blew the offside trap a couple of times, got abused by ribery a few times, got burnt by Benzema a couple times and gave away posession cheaply playing out from the back that sent the french running the other way.

While Hummels only big mistakes were a couple long balls he misjudged, something he more than made up for with his slew of attack breaking tackles and interceptions.

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02-06-2013, 05:29 PM
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Hummels was usually badly aligned in offside situations. Mertesacker sure missed a few alignments himself, but if you can catch a replay, you'll see Hummels and him had bad communication about offside situations.

And Ribery abused everyone, including Hummels (especially at one point where he humiliated him with a small touch and then ran towards th german goal) and Lahm (like on every ball he had).

It's been a while I hadn't seen Ribery play this well with France.

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02-06-2013, 05:59 PM
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Sweden need to improve defensively, they seem to have no troubles scoring though (kind of like BiH, but BiH have a great keeper to cover their crappy defens)
We'll have trouble scoring if we play more defensive though, that's the thing. We used to play defensive, and as a result we'd rarely lose to anything but the absolute top, but we'd draw or win with the 1 extra goal in the rest.

Sure since we changed coach we've had some decent results, beat Holland, France, Tied German 4-4 in Berlin, but we've also lost 4-0 to Holland, which even though they are a better team for sure, with Lagerbäck that would never have happened.

Why Lustig keeps getting more chances in the national team is beyond me. His few good games does not weigh up the games he has singlehandedly lost, some of them pretty freaking important games.

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02-06-2013, 06:00 PM
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Hummels has too many down games at the international level (CL and Germany games) to be hyped as much as he is on these boards.
Heck, we've read here in another thread that someone would take him over Thiago Silva over the next 5 years. Ouch.
So how many bad games did Hummels have at the international level? Two brutal games for Dortmund (in Marseille and Piraeus) and maybe a few subpar games with Germany. Overall I'd say a handful, with nearly all of them at least a year ago. Maybe Thiago Silva is more consistant right now, but he's also four years older. At Hummels' age Silva was still in Brazil and a month away from moving to Europe.

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02-06-2013, 06:20 PM
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most surprising result for me was Macedonia beating Denmark 3:0...whats going on with Denmark? They had a decent Euro despite not getting out of the groups but they have been horrible since.

Maybe Macedonia can surprise Belgium, they gave Croatia problems but they usually do

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02-06-2013, 06:27 PM
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Yay. England beat Brazil.

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02-06-2013, 07:02 PM
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Didn't see the Netherlands play. But a solid result for the youngest team in over 100 years for us. Don't agree with Blind playing for us but apparantly they played ballsy.

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02-06-2013, 10:04 PM
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We'll have trouble scoring if we play more defensive though, that's the thing. We used to play defensive, and as a result we'd rarely lose to anything but the absolute top, but we'd draw or win with the 1 extra goal in the rest.

Sure since we changed coach we've had some decent results, beat Holland, France, Tied German 4-4 in Berlin, but we've also lost 4-0 to Holland, which even though they are a better team for sure, with Lagerbäck that would never have happened.

Why Lustig keeps getting more chances in the national team is beyond me. His few good games does not weigh up the games he has singlehandedly lost, some of them pretty freaking important games.
Hamrén has my full support in this, as long as he takes the team to the Championships. Once there, I'd prefer you go for it and not luck out some draws before the inevitable exit.

Adam Johansson looked pretty good when he came in, I think he could give Lustig a run for his spot. But biggest problem are the center backs, they have no idea how to play with each other and they're literally only reliable in the air. Poor awareness and foot speed will hurt against most good teams.

Midfield/attackers of Elmander up top with Kacaniklic, Zlatan, Larsson behind can do some damage.

Isaksson is singning on his last song, guy has been a rock for this team but he's getting a little worse each day. I'd goalie switch before he becomes a wreck, and so we don't have someone unproven if we qualify.

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02-06-2013, 11:01 PM
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Jamaica have missed like 3 golden chances against Mexico, they should be winning this game. Mexico all possession but few chances

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02-06-2013, 11:26 PM
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Jamaica have missed like 3 golden chances against Mexico, they should be winning this game. Mexico all possession but few chances
Dobar!

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Bosnia handled Slovenia pretty easily today and now are 4-0-0 all time against them all time. Just can't continue to say enough about Pjanic and how terrific he is for the NT. If he were Brazilian, he'd have a 50 million price tag.

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