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02-06-2013, 01:46 PM
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Okay, and what is he going to look like 3 seasons from now when there's still 4 years on his deal at 6.6M? We're given an amnesty buyout. It doesn't make sense to use it on anyone but Richards.
I just don't see it happening. Plus you do not know for sure what the cap will be like 3-4 years from now. Will it stay the same? Will it increase if the league is profitable? Gaborik's contract will be gone after next year or they will trade him. Or he will re-sign for slightly less money and maybe we can fit him. But as of right now we don't have a premium center to replace richards. And it's not like Getzlaf is going to ask for pennies...

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I honestly think they should hold off on making too many player changes. I seriously think their problem is lost chemistry and well getting new teammates will not help. I'm on team stand pat and wait til **** comes together.

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I read a Mike Heika Dallas Morning News chat a few days ago. Goligoski has been very bad in Dallas. $4.6M cap hit until 15-16. Bad contract.

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I honestly think they should hold off on making too many player changes. I seriously think their problem is lost chemistry and well getting new teammates will not help. I'm on team stand pat and wait til **** comes together.
I'm not sure about that. How do you explain Miller and Kreider being our best players last night. It's a systemic problem.

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Winnipeg needs young Dmen who can play. Up and coming RH Dmen are pretty valuable. Your offer is low. Very low. When multi teams are bidding the value rises above 'face value'. This is sports trading 101
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I didn't realize their key need was D, which is why I asked.
Thought they were looking for more scoring.

I realize PP is on the cusp, but I had hoped a 2nd + asset + a D for eventual replenishment would work. But if they are not Phoenix - esque good on D corps depth, then we'd had to give from a shortage.

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02-06-2013, 03:06 PM
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I read a Mike Heika Dallas Morning News chat a few days ago. Goligoski has been very bad in Dallas. $4.6M cap hit until 15-16. Bad contract.
What a bad trade. Pittsburgh absolutely abused Dallas getting a 40 goal scorer for a now healthy scratch.

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02-06-2013, 04:08 PM
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what about RW Andrew Shaw from the Blackhawks??


would Brian Boyle and 3rd (Fla) be enough??

http://blackhawks.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8476381

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02-06-2013, 04:13 PM
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what about RW Andrew Shaw from the Blackhawks??


would Brian Boyle and 3rd (Fla) be enough??

http://blackhawks.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8476381
We aren't going to trade a center who is one of our better faceoff guys and matches up against other teams' top lines, as well as being one of our primary PKers, for an inexperienced, unproven winger.

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02-06-2013, 04:14 PM
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what about RW Andrew Shaw from the Blackhawks??


would Brian Boyle and 3rd (Fla) be enough??

http://blackhawks.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8476381
Shaw would be a great addition but not at the expense of Boyle. Boyle is not expendable. This team needs to add a piece like Shaw WITHOUT subtracting. Unfortunately, Shaw's price is probably higher than it makes sense to pay and he is more valuale TO Chicago than his actual market value would be. It would take an over payment that simply wouldn't make sense.

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02-06-2013, 04:15 PM
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I read a Mike Heika Dallas Morning News chat a few days ago. Goligoski has been very bad in Dallas. $4.6M cap hit until 15-16. Bad contract.
I knew that was a bad trade immediately. I was hoping that the rangers would have gone after Neal.

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Lokitonov (sp?) to the Devils for a 5th. We couldn't have matched that?

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02-06-2013, 04:39 PM
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Lokitonov (sp?) to the Devils for a 5th. We couldn't have matched that?
Don't have a 5th.

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Disappointed if the return is accurate. At that price, he would have been a good gamble for us.

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We use 5ths on John Scotts and Devils use 5ths on blue chip prospects.

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We use 5ths on John Scotts and Devils use 5ths on blue chip prospects.
you're a clown.

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So bluechip that the winning bid for his services was a 5th round pick.

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I knew that was a bad trade immediately. I was hoping that the rangers would have gone after Neal.
Ugh. Me too. And they picked up Niskanen to boot. Horrendous move.

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you're a clown.
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Loktionov has been a producer at a top scorer's rate at every level except the NHL. The scare with him has been returning to KHL.

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02-06-2013, 04:55 PM
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Loktionov has been a producer at a top scorer's rate at every level except the NHL. The scare with him has been returning to KHL.
No the scare with him is that he weighs 170lbs soaking wet, has no muscle, gets pushed off the puck be an opposing players' fart and hasn't been able to put it together. I think he'll eventually be a good player as well, but calling him a blue chip is beyond massive exaggeration.

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You'd be very lucky to get a player of his caliber in the 5th round, the Kings did but now they trade him for another 5th rounder. That's like winning the lottery and buying lottery tickets with your winnings


Thats from the trade boards.

Great. Not that AL is a world beater, but Devils adding depth is never a good thought in Rangerland.

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02-06-2013, 05:09 PM
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No the scare with him is that he weighs 170lbs soaking wet, has no muscle, gets pushed off the puck be an opposing players' fart and hasn't been able to put it together. I think he'll eventually be a good player as well, but calling him a blue chip is beyond massive exaggeration.
He's played with good players before and didn't look out of place as evident by his numbers with the Spitfires in the OHL. He has excellent puck handling skills along with vision, I will be shocked if he isn't a regular NHL player some time in his career. He could however return to Lokomotiv and make more dough there though. I rank him as a guy who would be #3 at worst in our prospect pool.

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02-06-2013, 05:56 PM
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Any way we could trade fans (in this case certain posters) for other more levelheaded and less delusional ones?

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Loktionov has been a producer at a top scorer's rate at every level except the NHL. The scare with him has been returning to KHL.
29 goals in 132 AHL games is a "top scorer's rate"? Kris Newbury had 25 in 65 games for the Whale last year. Guess he's a blue chip prospect, too.

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Any way we could trade fans (in this case certain posters) for other more levelheaded and less delusional ones?

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