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02-06-2013, 04:37 PM
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Sutter is off the table.
They might as well ask for Crosby or Malkin.

In any event given the prices I keep seeing in this thread keep him. I do not want him.

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Kulemin for Fleury. You guys are running him out of town anyways. Gives Zatkoff a chance to learn and back up Vokoun ( who has looked fantastic)

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I'm not sure what the Pens have available (being the key word) that the Leafs will want for Kulemin. Really, it will come down to either a prospect, a draft pick, or a current roster player that is expendable like a Kennedy, Jeffrey, or Tangradi.
And that return does nothing for the leafs to trade kulemin for.

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Paul Martin + 1st + Decent prospect?

That would be assuming the Leafs aren't going into full rebuild but if they are trading Kulemin you would think they are.

I know the Leafs were interested in Martin though.

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Kulemin for Fleury. You guys are running him out of town anyways. Gives Zatkoff a chance to learn and back up Vokoun ( who has looked fantastic)
who's running him out of town? do you have ANY clue what you're even talking about?

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I'd be happy with Sutter in return. We need an imposing, tough and physical 3rd line C.
cool, and i guess sutter could anchor your second line then

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And that return does nothing for the leafs to trade kulemin for.
Depends on Leaf management's mindset. If they're trying to make the playoffs, you're right, it doesn't do anything for them. But if they decide a mini-rebuild is in order, then landing something like, say, Maatta and Kennedy for Kulemin might make sense. Maatta's the long term asset, while Kennedy takes Kulemin's spot in the current roster until they can make a more permanent move in the summer.

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This is getting more and more speculation. I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen.

Probably a D prospect + pick, since that's Pittsburghs strength. There's not much on the roster that would be available that would make sense.

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Maata and 1st and done.

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Paul Martin + 1st + Decent prospect?

That would be assuming the Leafs aren't going into full rebuild but if they are trading Kulemin you would think they are.

I know the Leafs were interested in Martin though.
how much term is on martin contract?

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Depends on Leaf management's mindset. If they're trying to make the playoffs, you're right, it doesn't do anything for them. But if they decide a mini-rebuild is in order, then landing something like, say, Maatta and Kennedy for Kulemin might make sense. Maatta's the long term asset, while Kennedy takes Kulemin's spot in the current roster until they can make a more permanent move in the summer.
Making the playoffs or mini-rebuild I don't see the good in trading a good two way player who is only 26 unless similar value comes back.

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Martin is playing like a $5 million defenseman this year. He's not going anywhere right now.


And running Fleury out of town? People in Philadelphia calling him overrated isn't us running him out of town.

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how much term is on martin contract?
two years after this season for $5M per year, and he's starting to pick up his play very nicely paired with Orpik, so i don't think i'd even trade him at this point

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Paul Martin + 1st + Decent prospect?

That would be assuming the Leafs aren't going into full rebuild but if they are trading Kulemin you would think they are.

I know the Leafs were interested in Martin though.
Nonis is not going to blow this team up. If he were Lupul doesn't get signed

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who's running him out of town? do you have ANY clue what you're even talking about?
Very much so. My starting goalie in a deep fantasy pool, so I play close attention to what's going on with the team.

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Making the playoffs or mini-rebuild I don't see the good in trading a good two way player who is only 26 unless similar value comes back.
So what is "similar value" then?

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This is getting more and more speculation. I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen.

Probably a D prospect + pick, since that's Pittsburghs strength. There's not much on the roster that would be available that would make sense.
D prospects are our strength as well thats the issue

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kule and mac for sutter? kule for kennedy and a pick?

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Very much so. My starting goalie in a deep fantasy pool, so I play close attention to what's going on with the team.
apparently you don't, because VERY FEW Pens fans even want to trade him (at least on HFBoards, most likely fewer anywhere else). show me a list of Pens fans who actually want to trade Fleury.

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So what is "similar value" then?
A package where kulemin and sutter are the two main pieces.

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Paul Martin + 1st + Decent prospect?

That would be assuming the Leafs aren't going into full rebuild but if they are trading Kulemin you would think they are.

I know the Leafs were interested in Martin though.
A 1st + Decent prospect would be a great return for Kulemin on it`s own, we are not adding Paul Martin to that.

Highly unlikely that anyone wants Martin gone this season. If his contract becomes a problem, it´ll be dealt with in the summer.

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Both Kuli and Malkin are FA's after 2013-2014. Let the rumours begin.
They're taking their talents to Sunrise.

That's close enough to South Beach, right?

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Reminds me of the Ponikarovsky trade all over again.

Sutter won't even be in talks; he's simply not available. As for Kulemin, it's not like he'd be a "rental" so to me unless the Leafs trade him to improve at another position (center or defense) they'd really be counting themselves out of the playoffs and selling which I don't think will happen this year. Kulemin is signed past this year so he has more value than a "rental".

The teams just don't make good trading partners unless the Leafs are sellers. Pittsburgh's not going to be able to give up much in regards to roster players. They'll part with futures but if the Leafs want to remain competitive for the playoffs and want roster players back I can't see a deal being made, unless it involves Kennedy. If it's for picks/prospects it's another story.

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kule and mac for sutter? kule for kennedy and a pick?
i'd think of that one even if it's a 1st. that 1st will have solid value anywhere this year since the draft is so deep, but if Kennedy goes along with it, i'd think about it. it's not that he's terrible, but he's a roster player and that would mean the Pens would only need to get rid of one player when Niskanen comes back as opposed to two.

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I don't think Kulemin has the trade value some people think on this board.

After putting up 30G, he disappointed with seven in 70 games. Now with one in ten, he's on the exact same pace.

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