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A 1st + Decent prospect would be a great return for Kulemin on it`s own, we are not adding Paul Martin to that.

Highly unlikely that anyone wants Martin gone this season. If his contract becomes a problem, it´ll be dealt with in the summer.
That won't do it, I think if he gets traded it will have to include something significant.

Martin + 1st would be my bet, and I still think that possibly a lower end prospect swap could be made with it.

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A package where kulemin and sutter are the two main pieces.
I don't think that's a fair assessment of what fair value would be for a guy who is going to be a UFA.

How much did you guys get for Ponikarovsky? Antropov? I think you're looking at similar prices for a guy like Kulemin.

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I don't think Kulemin has the trade value some people think on this board.

After putting up 30G, he disappointed with seven in 70 games. Now with one in ten, he's on the exact same pace.
Don't forget 5 assists. 6 points in 10 games

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I don't think that's a fair assessment of what fair value would be for a guy who is going to be a UFA.

How much did you guys get for Ponikarovsky? Antropov? I think you're looking at similar prices for a guy like Kulemin.
We both know if kulemin went to the pens he resigns in a heartbeat to play with Gino.

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I don't think that's a fair assessment of what fair value would be for a guy who is going to be a UFA.

How much did you guys get for Ponikarovsky? Antropov? I think you're looking at similar prices for a guy like Kulemin.
He's not a UFA.

He's got another year in 2013-14 where hes making a reasonable 3M on a 2.8M cap hit.

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Not sure it makes sense as far as what can come back to Toronto, unless it's a 1'st round pick and an A prospect. Don't think Pitt can subtract from roster while making meaningful compensation to TO.

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I don't think Kulemin has the trade value some people think on this board.

After putting up 30G, he disappointed with seven in 70 games. Now with one in ten, he's on the exact same pace.
he has 6 or 7 assist to go with that goal

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I'd rather not move Kulie.

Sutter is an overpayment.

But I'm not a huge Sutter fan, since he wouldn't have a real role in Toronto.

Not a 1st line C, 2nd line C we have Grabo/Kadri, 3rd line C we have McClement.

He'd be an upgrade over McClement, but it's not worth losing Kulie to upgrade McClement to Sutter on the 3rd line.

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I don't think Kulemin has the trade value some people think on this board.

After putting up 30G, he disappointed with seven in 70 games. Now with one in ten, he's on the exact same pace.
Kule plays on a shutdown line. the year he had 30 goals that line was offense. Kule with Malkin and Neal trust me best line in the nhl. Kule is one of the best defensive fowards in the nhl he is a strong man he is a workhorse. Kule could pop 30 with malkin and neal he would create TONS of room. I love Kule one of my fav players but if the price is right do the deal. Pens fans would love this guy with in thier lineup.

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Don't forget 5 assists. 6 points in 10 games
doesn't matter, Sutter isn't available.

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doesn't matter, Sutter isn't available.
Exactly why I said I can't see it happening.

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I'd probably give up Sneep for Kulemin

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That won't do it, I think if he gets traded it will have to include something significant.

Martin + 1st would be my bet, and I still think that possibly a lower end prospect swap could be made with it.
I don`t think you are getting a top4D + 1st + for Kulemin, but if you do, it will hopefully from another team and I will be happy for you all then.

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We both know if kulemin went to the pens he resigns in a heartbeat to play with Gino.
how do you know? because they played together in Russia? did he say he'd sign long-term with the Pens to play with Malkin?

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harrington and a second. he looked awesome at the wjc. depth on defence is never a bad thing

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Exactly why I said I can't see it happening.
ok then. i think a deal could be possible without Sutter, but that's probably just me.

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doesn't matter, Sutter isn't available.
Something is telling me that Kennedy is in the talks.

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Something is telling me that Kennedy is in the talks.
and i'd be fine with that. he's a natural center anyway and him + for Kulemin would force the Pens to move only one roster player when Niskanen comes back instead of two.

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We both know if kulemin went to the pens he resigns in a heartbeat to play with Gino.
what makes you think the Pens would want to resign a guy with 8 goals in his last 82 games?

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Please don't trade Kulie!

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how do you know? because they played together in Russia? did he say he'd sign long-term with the Pens to play with Malkin?
He is not UFA. His deal expires in 2013-14.

That's enough time to negotiate a long term deal if he were ever traded..

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how do you know? because they played together in Russia? did he say he'd sign long-term with the Pens to play with Malkin?
You don't think the connection between the two would play into the decision. Here's a new contract to play with Malkin oh and by the way there's some guy named Crosby on the team and you have a chance at the cup every year. What would you say?

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and i'd be fine with that. he's a natural center anyway and him + for Kulemin would force the Pens to move only one roster player when Niskanen comes back instead of two.
whats the + though?

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