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02-06-2013, 04:46 PM
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Kimmo Timonen

Obviously he isn't the player he once was but he is in the last year of his deal and possibly last of his career. Hypothetically, let's say the Flyers are sellers at the deadline. What would it take to acquire Kimmo? He'd be a good fit to strengthen an already good D for a Cup run. I was thinking a 2nd would be very fair.

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02-06-2013, 04:57 PM
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1st. Teams will overpay for him at the deadline, and the flyers would have no issue just letting him retire a flyer. A low 1st from a playoff team is probably what it would take.

He's easily one of the most under rated defensemen in the league, and at 37-38 is still extremely good positionally, one on one and can QB a power play at a high level.

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A 2nd?

Are you ****ing kidding me?

He'd easily get a 1st round pick from a contending team if the Flyers are out of it.

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Highly unlikely the Flyers are that far out of it by the deadline that they consider moving Timonen.

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Even an aging Kimmo will fetch a 1st rounder and a good/top prospect from a team. He is what every team is looking for at the deadline. A #1/2 defender that can put your team over the top for a cup run. He has leadership, scoring, and is a great all around defender. If the Flyers are out of the playoff race, they would have a good amount of the GM's calling about him. I see the Detroit Red Wings being a good fit.

To Detroit:
Kimmo

To Flyers:
1st rounder
Maxim Oullet/Adam Almquist

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02-06-2013, 05:54 PM
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Even an aging Kimmo will fetch a 1st rounder and a good/top prospect from a team. He is what every team is looking for at the deadline. A #1/2 defender that can put your team over the top for a cup run. He has leadership, scoring, and is a great all around defender. If the Flyers are out of the playoff race, they would have a good amount of the GM's calling about him. I see the Detroit Red Wings being a good fit.

To Detroit:
Kimmo

To Flyers:
1st rounder
Maxim Oullet/Adam Almquist
You mean Xavier Ouellet? Doubt they'd move him anywhere. At least not in that deal.

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Kimmo easily returns a first if the Flyers are looking to move him at the deadline, which I highly doubt.

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02-06-2013, 05:59 PM
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Flyers would only move Kimmo if they're out of it by the deadline and even then I think they'd be hesitant because he's helping Schenn quite a lot.

First round pick would probably be fair. Maybe a 2nd and a decent prospect

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Obviously he isn't the player he once was but he is in the last year of his deal and possibly last of his career. Hypothetically, let's say the Flyers are sellers at the deadline. What would it take to acquire Kimmo? He'd be a good fit to strengthen an already good D for a Cup run. I was thinking a 2nd would be very fair.
A 2nd and Hjalmarsson or Leddy? Sure.

Otherwise, it starts with a 1st and a good prospect. Kimmo would likely be the best defenseman available at the deadline if he's made available. And with deadline overpays, there's no way you're getting him for a 2nd.

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You mean Xavier Ouellet? Doubt they'd move him anywhere. At least not in that deal.
Lol yes, god damn Flyers goal tending haunting me.

I understand he is a valuable piece, but Kimmo is a very valuable asset. GM's would have to pay. He could essentially be the biggest(valuable) defenseman moved at the deadline

I could even see a 3rd rounder being thrown in there too.

1st
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3rd rounder.

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You made me agree with Flyers fans, but someone is going to be more desperate for top D than Chicago will be and a 2nd won`t cut it.

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Lol yes, god damn Flyers goal tending haunting me.

I understand he is a valuable piece, but Kimmo is a very valuable asset. GM's would have to pay. He could essentially be the biggest(valuable) defenseman moved at the deadline

I could even see a 3rd rounder being thrown in there too.

1st
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3rd rounder.
He would be a really valuable pickup for the Bruins, but no way in hell to this...

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He would be a really valuable pickup for the Bruins, but no way in hell to this...
Kaberle got this type of return, you don't think Kimmo will?

Eklund is reporting we signed Kimmo for another year right now lol.

https://twitter.com/Eklund/status/299296575908352000

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Flyers have extended Kimo Timonen for a year (per a teammate)

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Lol yes, god damn Flyers goal tending haunting me.

I understand he is a valuable piece, but Kimmo is a very valuable asset. GM's would have to pay. He could essentially be the biggest(valuable) defenseman moved at the deadline

I could even see a 3rd rounder being thrown in there too.

1st
top prospect
3rd rounder.
It's very doubtful he'd even get a 1st plus a top prospect depending on how broad your standard for top is.

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just as well they extended him, they'd be really struggling for offence from the backend without him.

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It's very doubtful he'd even get a 1st plus a top prospect depending on how broad your standard for top is.
Just for hypothetical purposes, give me one defenseman that would be more valuable than him around the deadline if we were out of contention?

He would get a big return if he were traded, a 1st and a top prospect would most likely coming back. Look back at all the dman dealt at the deadline, they get premium assets coming back.

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He would have been the top UFA D-Man this coming offseason...if he did indeed sign an extension with Philly.

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Just for hypothetical purposes, give me one defenseman that would be more valuable than him around the deadline if we were out of contention?

He would get a big return if he were traded, a 1st and a top prospect would most likely coming back. Look back at all the dman dealt at the deadline, they get premium assets coming back.
Gotta chuckle at the degree in which Flyer fans overrate and overvalue their players.

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Gotta chuckle at the degree in which Flyer fans overrate and overvalue their players.
yes, because Flyers fans are the only ones that do that...

you can say that about all 29 other fan bases

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Gotta chuckle at the degree in which Flyer fans overrate and overvalue their players.
You must be new here. Welcome to the forum. Every team's fans overrates their players to certain extents, some more so then others (cough cough)

For the record, I don't think Timonen will fetch a 1st + Top prospect, I think a 1st + lower level prospect or just a 1st is more realistic. If we're out of contention, I'd like to see him try to win the Cup with a team with a legit shot. A contending team likely won't need Kimmo to be a #1 like he is relied on to be here, and he will likely benefit from that.

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According to your post history, a "clueless" and "brain dead" Paul Holmgren made the worst selection of all time by taking Sean Couturier over Dougie Hamilton, Couturier is and will be a 3rd line center and Hamilton is a #1 D, and Couturier sucks because he's a slow skater. Seems legit.

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Gotta chuckle at the degree in which Flyer fans overrate and overvalue their players.
Did you not see what Kaberle got when he was dealt at the deadline before being a UFA? Well I'd say Timonen is atleast equal to what Kaberle was at the time of the dealing, so I'd expect that return too, so a 1st rounder from a true contender and a good prospect. With that being said, rumor has it he just resigned with Philly so there is really no way he'll be moved at this deadline.

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Gotta chuckle at the degree in which Flyer fans overrate and overvalue their players.
Let's look at some history shall we:
2012
Oduya for a 2nd and a 3rd
Zidlicky for Kurtis Foster, Nick Palmieri, Stephane Veilleux,2012 2nd round pick, 2013 conditional pick
Quincey for a 1st and a player
Hal Gill for a 2nd and 2 players
Grossmann for a 2nd and 3rd

2011
Kaberle for a 1st, Colborne and a conditional 2nd
White for a 2nd
Wisniewski for a 2nd and a conditional 5th

Kimmo is better today than all of those players where when traded. But maybe with a short season, teams might be more hesitant. Who knows. But what this list does show is that #2 D-men are not traded much. Who wouldn't like to add a 20+ minute d-man that can PK and play the PP. But if what is being reported is true, he has re-signed. Hope it is a team friendly contract. Maybe 4 mill??

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i see the contract offer as a committment to not rebuilding for the flyers. should the stars align differently come april i could see them moving timonen to help the team but thats what the deal would have to do. tim ericsson and columbus lowest 1st rd pick or highest second rounder. corey schneider from vancouver, significant pieces that would help the flyers, otherwise i think he finishes his time out in philly

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