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Game #10| Feb. 5, 2013|Lightning at Flyers |7:30 p.m. ET

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02-06-2013, 12:59 PM
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I think this game was a perfect statement to the argument that Lavy is unable to ammend his system for the personnel he has or for the opposing team.

Last game the team looked well coached, motivated and determined, I am giving the coach credit when credit is due.

I hope, last game will be a great stepping stone for the team as well as coaching staff.

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Rinaldo mic'd up

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02-06-2013, 01:16 PM
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I think this game was a perfect statement to the argument that Lavy is unable to ammend his system for the personnel he has or for the opposing team.

Last game the team looked well coached, motivated and determined, I am giving the coach credit when credit is due.

I hope, last game will be a great stepping stone for the team as well as coaching staff.
Maybe but we don't know how much of a factor his coaching staff has helped either. I doubt Paddock is just getting paid to watch games like Shelley...

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02-06-2013, 02:34 PM
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Found a great pictorial from Twitter of the "late" or not-so-late punches in the two scrums yesterday:


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02-06-2013, 04:36 PM
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"Notice how Crombeen is just coming off his skates..."
That's where this "analysis" loses all credibility, I don't care what the ****** lightning captain did, Rinaldo should have stopped a punch or two earlier.

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02-06-2013, 04:49 PM
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"Notice how Crombeen is just coming off his skates..."
That's where this "analysis" loses all credibility, I don't care what the ****** lightning captain did, Rinaldo should have stopped a punch or two earlier.
Disagree. Love what Rinaldo did.

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"Notice how Crombeen is just coming off his skates..."
That's where this "analysis" loses all credibility, I don't care what the ****** lightning captain did, Rinaldo should have stopped a punch or two earlier.
Says then guy who's never been in a fight in his life. Yeah how was Rinaldo supposed to know crombeen wouldn't get up. Its not like he was on the ice laying there like the pos lecavalier threw on Talbot.

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02-06-2013, 05:01 PM
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Hockey fans..... never thought I'd see the day when they whine over fighting.

On a good note we won two in a row, Florida is next hopefully we get another.

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02-06-2013, 05:13 PM
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Says then guy who's never been in a fight in his life. Yeah how was Rinaldo supposed to know crombeen wouldn't get up. Its not like he was on the ice laying there like the pos lecavalier threw on Talbot.


Sure...that's why I'm always advocating fighting.

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02-06-2013, 05:15 PM
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The Rinaldo fight was fine, the ref even confirmed it. Of course Tampa players were upset because Crombeen got hurt. Not even going to comment on the Vinny thing. This has become much larger than it should have.

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"Notice how Crombeen is just coming off his skates..."
That's where this "analysis" loses all credibility, I don't care what the ****** lightning captain did, Rinaldo should have stopped a punch or two earlier.
I agree on stopping a punch or two earlier sentiment. I don't know whether he saw Crombeen was already out on the way down, though. As far as him talking to the refs, that actually made things better in my view, seeing how he was concerned with not wanting to punch someone that's already down. But the ref only confirmed he didn't punch him when he was actually on the ground, which of course is true.

As for the game, it was pretty sweet. Still not that much offensive spark, though, and Schenn still doing nothing on the offense. I'm starting to get a bit worried about that, and a prime example was one of his plays in the first period when he had the puck on the opposing blue line and no one that close around him, and instead of holding the puck and waiting for others to come by, he just chipped it to where there was absolutely no chance our players would get there first and headed off on a change. I don't know, it's those little plays that he seems to be lacking right now, but hopefully he improves his play as the season goes along.

Sestito came as a Roman, and Timonen was also an absolute beast on the defense. I liked Giroux's play much better, and his faceoff-taking was just incredible. McGinn also surprises me more and more, and all in a good way. And I guess the last honorable mention goes to Bryz.

So a lot of good to our game, hopefully they keep it up. I don't mind us being a low scoring team, if that means our defense is rock solid.

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everyone with a keyboard becomes an expert at anything. today, people are all of a sudden experts at fighting. Looked fine to me. Its not like hes laying on the ice and Rinaldo is pounding his face into it. I don't see TOO many Flyers whining about Vinny. If he wasn't woozy after no one would be making a big deal about it.

I googled Rinaldo fights and this kid is tough. EVERYONE he fights has a size advantage. He has to be borderline crazy.

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everyone with a keyboard becomes an expert at anything. today, people are all of a sudden experts at fighting. Looked fine to me. Its not like hes laying on the ice and Rinaldo is pounding his face into it. I don't see TOO many Flyers whining about Vinny. If he wasn't woozy after no one would be making a big deal about it.

I googled Rinaldo fights and this kid is tough. EVERYONE he fights has a size advantage. He has to be borderline crazy.
What do the sheep say again? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?

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What do the sheep say again? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?

I'm not claiming to be an expert at fighting. I'm talking about the people saying "if you've ever been in a fight ...... ... .. ..." insert whatever made up story they fabricated to back up their claims. Everyone is going to have their opinion on it. I'm not going into details about the morals of fighting and the underlying code that goes with it. I'm just stating it looked ok to me. Are you the same guy that thinks he is clever when he says "whiners whining about whining?"

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02-06-2013, 08:28 PM
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I googled Rinaldo fights and this kid is tough. EVERYONE he fights has a size advantage. He has to be borderline crazy.
It's amazing isn't it. Rinaldo is one tough hombre. He was in rage mode and like you said he pretty much has to be as an undersized guy. It's pure adrenaline and he even said it's not like he's thinking out there..he's in survival mode and making sure he terminates his adversary. I see nothing wrong with how he conducted himself in that fight b/c he was obviously in complete rage mode b/c of his size disadvantage. No time to think and have some kind of colonial gentlemanly battle. He was in a take no prisoner's mode.

So mad that on some ESPN sports program today they made the fight a topic of discussion and called it barbary.....of course it's not like Rinaldo needs more bad press so that the refs are total jerks with him to the point that they make him extinct from the game...

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I'm not claiming to be an expert at fighting. I'm talking about the people saying "if you've ever been in a fight ...... ... .. ..." insert whatever made up story they fabricated to back up their claims. Everyone is going to have their opinion on it.
Ah, OK, sorry about that then, I thought you were talking about everyone, including me, who expressed an opinion different than yours, even if it was without a story accompanying it

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One of the great ironies is in this thread. The referee said so. First time in Philadelphia sports history.

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One of the great ironies is in this thread. The referee said so. First time in Philadelphia sports history.
And Pierre Mcguire was positively effervescent.

I've said before I'm no fan of Rinaldo. He's a bad combination of playing on the edge of crazy/dirty and a reputation penalty magnet. He played his heart out last night and had a great game, though I didn't like the last punch against Crombeen.

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02-06-2013, 10:00 PM
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Ah, OK, sorry about that then, I thought you were talking about everyone, including me, who expressed an opinion different than yours, even if it was without a story accompanying it
haha yeah i'm sorry too. HF boards brings out the worst in people and puts me on edge. It just feels like people are always looking to pick a fight. My initial post you replied to wasn't directed to you at all.

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And Pierre Mcguire was positively effervescent.

I've said before I'm no fan of Rinaldo. He's a bad combination of playing on the edge of crazy/dirty and a reputation penalty magnet. He played his heart out last night and had a great game, though I didn't like the last punch against Crombeen.
Yeah I agree on all parts. I would have preferred he laid off the last punch, but he doesn't have the perspective and time to pick apart the situation like us. The Mic'd up video shows thats not what he was trying to do. Some would argue he has earned the reputation of being dirty and thats fine. I can't dispute that.

Anyone think Briere or someone else in the room said something to Rinaldo between periods after St. Louis was chatting to Danny?

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02-06-2013, 11:35 PM
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I agree on stopping a punch or two earlier sentiment. I don't know whether he saw Crombeen was already out on the way down, though. As far as him talking to the refs, that actually made things better in my view, seeing how he was concerned with not wanting to punch someone that's already down. But the ref only confirmed he didn't punch him when he was actually on the ground, which of course is true.
If he had stopped punching, and Crombeen had straightened up and clocked him, we'd all be mad that he didn't finish him. Crombeen had it coming to him, he got it. Lecavalier's late punches while Talbot was lying on the ice were later and dirtier than Rinaldo's.

That probably helped Zac, since even Shanahan isn't so much of hypocritical moron that he could have suspended Zac but not Vinny.

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If he had stopped punching, and Crombeen had straightened up and clocked him, we'd all be mad that he didn't finish him.
Yeah, OK, I'm not going to debate imaginary scenarios
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Lecavalier's late punches while Talbot was lying on the ice were later and dirtier than Rinaldo's.
Sure, I agree, but that's not what's being discussed here, at least not by me.

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This got blown out of proportion, maybe Rinaldo didn't see Crombeen buckling or didn't have time to react in the heat of the moment, it's 1 or 2 punches, not a huge deal, just maybe a little beyond the code. As for Lecavalier who cares? The guy is as dumb as a post and somewhat overrated, always has been. Quite frankly nobody cares about the Lightning and that's why his late punches on Talbot are not an issue.

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What do the sheep say again? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone?
Who are you calling sheep?

The Mic'd up video (I just took the time to give it a look) definitely softened my stance – a bit – on Rinaldo.

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