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01-07-2013, 05:25 AM
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I also heard a couple scouts say Schultz will be better than Ryan Murray.
Murray's also what, 18? Not that fair of a comparison lol.

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01-07-2013, 05:57 AM
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Personally I think that he's hit a bit of a rookie wall and if the NHL starts up he will struggle more than he would've at the start of the season. He's developed a bad habit of letting opposing forwards get behind him allowing odd man breaks or even clear cut breakaways. The last couple of games especially Friday's game he was terrible at it. Tonight I only saw from the 1/2 way point of the 3rd to the end of the game but he once again showed his high end offensive upside. He has also carried the puck less of late and has tried to conserve energy by setting up guys like Hall with breakout passes and letting him carry the mail.
Nyquist and Tatar make a lot of guys look bad, they are really NHL caliber players and pretty far along in their development. Now with that said and everyone has bad games that was the only alarming part of it. The Griffins seemed to make a point of attacking his side of the rink. Using his aggressive nature against him, I am sure this is something NHL teams will key on.

He will be fine long-term and really there was a lot of things when you watched the game to like about him in the middle of what you could tell was an off night. But that is the problem with him being looked at as a #1 D-man in my opinion. He might be out of the gate, but that means he is going to draw some flat out nightmare assignments this year. It will be a part of the learning experience for him, but there will be several nights where teams get to have a little bit of fun with the rookie.

I thought Eberle's comments on TSN were bang on after the lockout ending broke. The problem I have with the Oilers are going to be real good real soon logic, is that none of these guys is particularly useful defensively yet. You can see it coming and they are working at it but until they can play a little better defense they aren't going to take a major leap forward in my opinion. The aren't going to run and gun their way to a ton of victories at the NHL level. Sure some nights they will, they just have that much talent, but they need to focus a little harder on their own zone. Because a lot of times when I have seen them even down in the AHL this year, they creating a ton of offense and chances, but they are still creating chances for both teams as Mike Babcock likes to say. Cleaning some of that up will go along way, but when it happens is harder to nail down.

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01-07-2013, 07:19 AM
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sheltering him will help but it's not like they have alot of great Dmen back there.

Growing pains will be in store, maybe hidden by some PP time.

We will have a better idea of his career course after the NHL season is over.
Anyone who thinks he will not have growing pains is fooling themselves. Of course this will happen, it does for every young dman.

He has a pretty good chance of playing with Nick Schultz, who actually fits him quite well. N. Schultz played very well with the Oilers. He is a low stress kind of guy and he has exeprience playing with offensive defensemen.

The Sutton injury has thrown a bit of a wrnech into things because it means more inexperience on the backend. So we will see what happens out of the gate.

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01-08-2013, 04:09 AM
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Nyquist and Tatar make a lot of guys look bad, they are really NHL caliber players and pretty far along in their development. Now with that said and everyone has bad games that was the only alarming part of it. The Griffins seemed to make a point of attacking his side of the rink. Using his aggressive nature against him, I am sure this is something NHL teams will key on.

He will be fine long-term and really there was a lot of things when you watched the game to like about him in the middle of what you could tell was an off night. But that is the problem with him being looked at as a #1 D-man in my opinion. He might be out of the gate, but that means he is going to draw some flat out nightmare assignments this year. It will be a part of the learning experience for him, but there will be several nights where teams get to have a little bit of fun with the rookie.

I thought Eberle's comments on TSN were bang on after the lockout ending broke. The problem I have with the Oilers are going to be real good real soon logic, is that none of these guys is particularly useful defensively yet. You can see it coming and they are working at it but until they can play a little better defense they aren't going to take a major leap forward in my opinion. The aren't going to run and gun their way to a ton of victories at the NHL level. Sure some nights they will, they just have that much talent, but they need to focus a little harder on their own zone. Because a lot of times when I have seen them even down in the AHL this year, they creating a ton of offense and chances, but they are still creating chances for both teams as Mike Babcock likes to say. Cleaning some of that up will go along way, but when it happens is harder to nail down.
Nothing against your team and its top players who are obviously very talented, but the Barons NHL guys that game played dreadful, it was a disgusting effort by them and I turned the game off. Anyone that knows me knows that I have watched almost every single one of our games the last 3 years when we have been nothing shy of brutal most of the time. I have rarely turned games off while the team is still playing, that was a game which I did. The effort level was disgusting, it was as if they fully expected to have not had to play that game because they expected the lockout to be over before it started. That or they got ****faced the night before the game. They've lost their share of games this season but they usually do something of note and create chances at a good clip even in their poor games. That was by far Schultz' worst game of the season, it was extremely uncharacteristic of him.

Seeing as Schultz has faced guys like Baertschi, Granlund, Zucker, etc. and not looked anywhere near that silly that many times in a game I simply chalk it up to off ice distractions.

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01-08-2013, 04:13 PM
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The problem I have with the Oilers are going to be real good real soon logic, is that none of these guys is particularly useful defensively yet. You can see it coming and they are working at it but until they can play a little better defense they aren't going to take a major leap forward in my opinion. The aren't going to run and gun their way to a ton of victories at the NHL level. Sure some nights they will, they just have that much talent, but they need to focus a little harder on their own zone.
Will someone who gets to regularly watch the Barons please comment on the development of Martin Marincin. A mid second rounder, big bodied kid that seems to have some upside. How has he looked in the AHL and how close is he to being ready? Thanks

Long term I have no doubt Justin Schultz will be a stud. I watched him a lot in wisconsin, and while I havent seen many OKC games this year, his stats line is certainly impressive. Most college players hit a wall in their first pro season due to the lengthier, more physically demanding schedule. it may take a year or two to adjust. Craig Smith in Nashville is a great example.


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01-08-2013, 04:28 PM
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Will someone who gets to regularly watch the Barons please comment on the development of Martin Marincin. A mid second rounder, big bodied kid that seems to have some upside. How has he looked in the AHL and how close is he to being ready? Thanks
A typical synopsis of Marincin in the AHL is; great skater with a decent pass/ shot, and strength/size but still very raw. (same as before)

Despite the "rawness" he ate a lot of minutes and basically took Alex Plante's job as a top pair AHLer....that may change with Schultz gone...and may have been a development decision.

He wasn't noticed much in the games I saw. Some say that is a good thing for defenders. On occasion he makes a mistake or great defensive play.

My guess is that he is fighting Klefbom for a spot next camp but likely ends up in the AHL again, possibly with Gernat.

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01-08-2013, 04:42 PM
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A typical synopsis of Marincin in the AHL is; great skater with a decent pass/ shot, and strength/size but still very raw. (same as before)

Despite the "rawness" he ate a lot of minutes and basically took Alex Plante's job as a top pair AHLer....that may change with Schultz gone...and may have been a development decision.

He wasn't noticed much in the games I saw. Some say that is a good thing for defenders. On occasion he makes a mistake or great defensive play.

My guess is that he is fighting Klefbom for a spot next camp but likely ends up in the AHL again, possibly with Gernat.
Awesome, thanks!

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02-07-2013, 04:17 AM
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Very early in his career but through his first 10 NHL games:

3-3-6 (3PPG) +1 (best on the team for a d-man) only 2 pim. 29 shots on goal (10.3% shooting %) and he's averaging 23:10 minutes/game (best on the team for a d-man).

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02-07-2013, 01:59 PM
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He has been more than any oiler fan could have expected. Such a good dman. Hope he continues to mold into that first pairing dman we need so bad.

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02-07-2013, 02:09 PM
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Very early in his career but through his first 10 NHL games:

3-3-6 (3PPG) +1 (best on the team for a d-man) only 2 pim. 29 shots on goal (10.3% shooting %) and he's averaging 23:10 minutes/game (best on the team for a d-man).
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02-07-2013, 02:23 PM
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He has a huge upside on his offense skill. Good at defense and getting better each game.

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A bit boring (except when he's shooting) but highly effective (when I've watched).

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02-07-2013, 02:25 PM
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He's going to be an excellent top pairing guy.

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02-07-2013, 06:06 PM
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I think he has a long way to go, he will keep getting better. He is so smart and efficient. He is our number 1 dman right now, but give it some time and I think he will be a #1 dman on any team.

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What I am most surprised about is his defensive play, he has been pretty solid. He won't punish you with huge checks, but he's got a great stick, I've remembered several when he's is on a 1 on 1/1 on 2, and when they shoot he just puts his stick in the perfect place to deflect it up and out of play.

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02-07-2013, 07:07 PM
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I'm really impressed with his defensive game. He wasn't that great in the AHL defensively, but he has been fantastic in the NHL.

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I just see him as a PP specialist, I thought he would much more dynamic but is pretty quiet on the ice. The only real stand-out skill he has is his one-timer wrist shot.

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And unsustainable shooting percentage for Dmen...

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I just see him as a PP specialist, I thought he would much more dynamic but is pretty quiet on the ice. The only real stand-out skill he has is his one-timer wrist shot.
Hed been a very good two way player if anything. His advanced stats are great. His quality of competition is by far the highest for any rookie and is around what other top pairing defenseman throughout the league are seeing and hes playing the 24 mins/night.

Hes defiantly the Oilers #1 defenseman and by the way hes been playing he could handle the top pairing (support type) on 8-9 teams. When the points come, holy moly

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Great player. I think it's only up from here for him. He doesn't have a hard shot but his shot always gets to the net on the PP even more bad angles.

Oilers are very lucky to get him for free. That's like getting a top 5-10 pick and not even have to wait till he develops.

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02-07-2013, 08:57 PM
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He's real good. It'll be interesting to see what teams decide to do about the football field worth of space he's getting on the blue line though. Take it away and you're giving the kids up front more room for fun.

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He's real good. It'll be interesting to see what teams decide to do about the football field worth of space he's getting on the blue line though. Take it away and you're giving the kids up front more room for fun.
He gets most of his points/opporunties from the rush

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He's really good there but it's not his fault that our team hasn't been scoring worth a damn at ES or else his numbers would be even more impressive.

He hasn't been carrying the puck much at this point so IMO he still has a dimension or two that he hasn't shown much of at the NHL level yet. That said he's been very solid for us in all 3 zones.

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I just see him as a PP specialist, I thought he would much more dynamic but is pretty quiet on the ice. The only real stand-out skill he has is his one-timer wrist shot.
Haha what?

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He's invented a new shot, the one timer wrist shot

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