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02-06-2013, 11:29 AM
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I like Dagoon, he goes on his Hank rant every season, then Hank starts to win games for us that matter, ya know, late in the season and in the playoffs

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02-06-2013, 11:30 AM
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He's not in the best shape of his life right now. Give him time.

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02-06-2013, 11:45 AM
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Lundqvist is not beyond criticism guys.

We have been getting shots and possession better than last year and the biggest change is now suddenly Lundqvist can't stop a beach ball.
He's not beyond criticism, but we can't expect Hank to keep every game 0-0 until the dying minutes of the game which seems to be when our offense remembers "Hey, we're playing a hockey game right now!" Hank is the absolute least of my concerns since he actually has the drive to improve his game; the rest of the team very rarely/sporadically has the same fire that Hank does. The players that are being paid 7+ million dollars a season to score need to..do that. More. I don't want to hear "the puck is just not going in" or "unlucky bounces", their job is to find ways to make that happen. Stop being weak on the puck. Learn to properly pass already. It's just mind-boggling and heart-breaking watching this team this season because no one looks like they want to play at all. I feel that's one of the biggest concern. The other is it's Torts' system that stifles our offense.

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02-06-2013, 12:07 PM
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He'll get it together. He always does. Not concerned about Hank at all.
Yep. A world-class goalie doesn't disappear.

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02-06-2013, 12:47 PM
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I know he will get back to form but seeing his numbers so outta wack after 9 games is still a bit unsettling.

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02-06-2013, 12:53 PM
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I know he will get back to form but seeing his numbers so outta wack after 9 games is still a bit unsettling.
When will his numbers be more vital, 9 games or 40 something into the season?

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02-06-2013, 12:55 PM
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Thread happens every year.

By the end of every year we worship him.

He's consistently one of the best players at the most important position. End of story.

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02-06-2013, 12:57 PM
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... Second he has sucked and u need to face that fact.
You honestly think even two of the goals last night were on him? I really can't see how that's the case.

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02-06-2013, 12:59 PM
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You honestly think even two of the goals last night were on him? I really can't see how that's the case.
The last one you could argue. The first two were just brain farts leading to turnovers.

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02-06-2013, 01:01 PM
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The last one you could argue. The first two were just brain farts leading to turnovers.
The last one the player whiffed on the shot sending a fluttering, off speed knuckle-ball over and in. Perhaps you could argue about his rebound control on the initial shot...but it was a good low, hard shot.

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02-06-2013, 01:07 PM
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The only thing that's more consistent than these Lundqvist threads that pop up every single season, is Henrik's ability to morph into god mode and shut all of you fools up.

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02-06-2013, 01:08 PM
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When will his numbers be more vital, 9 games or 40 something into the season?

I think I speak for everyone when I say the sooner the better.

If we're 30 games in here and hes still barely above .900 and under 3.00, somethings wrong.

Full confidence he will get back into it, and it starts with the damn blue line waking up.

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02-06-2013, 01:17 PM
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I think I speak for everyone when I say the sooner the better.

If we're 30 games in here and hes still barely above .900 and under 3.00, somethings wrong.

Full confidence he will get back into it, and it starts with the damn blue line waking up.
Its the forwards too. When they don't have the puck, or they turn it over again, that puts the dmen on their heels and they have to handle the puck more.

Our Dmen are not puckhandlers, they play to chip it out to the grunts. At least that's what they did when they were successful. Maybe it just needs more time, Rome New York wasn't built in a day. In fact there were many bloody battles fought there.

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02-06-2013, 01:27 PM
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What most people on this forum don't understand is its not all about how many goals he let in.

"A goalie is only as good as the team in front of him." - Mike Richter

Sure, did Henrik give up a bad goal last night? Yes...the tying goal to make it 3-3 was soft. Other then that, all goals scored on him in the first three games HAVEN'T been his fault. Deflections, missed coverages, screens, defensive breakdowns, etc etc etc have been at fault.

His game in Boston was epic, made tons of great saves, we just didn't have the play in front of him to win.

Henrik was pulled out of the home opener not because of his play, but because Torts didn't want to subject him to the ****y play that was going on in front of him.

If anything, last night against Boston at home he looked like he was fighting the puck at bit. It happens some nights, he's a human being.

We are a spoiled fan base having such a great goalie who has bailed us out of too many situations to begin to count, so when Henrik gives up a couple goals people tend to think he's slumping.

I have played goalie for 15+ years, and in some fairly competitive leagues. I know the position well, and when I go to games at the garden, and watch Henrik in warmup, I usually can tell if he will be on or off that night depending on how he looks. Any goalie will tell you the same about some nights you have it, and some nights you are fighting the puck.

A user on here said it last night, the last player on this team ANYONE needs to worry about is Hank. He is his harshest critic.

It is super early in the season, and he will only get better as the season goes on. Let's focus more on who will lead in secondary scoring, and even more importantly, fixing the anemic, ****y powerplay that still plagues us again.


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02-06-2013, 02:17 PM
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He hasn't even been bad by normal standards. You are just knee-jerking because Hank isn't meeting his OWN standards.

Can't expect him to save everything.

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02-06-2013, 02:27 PM
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Its the forwards too. When they don't have the puck, or they turn it over again, that puts the dmen on their heels and they have to handle the puck more.

Our Dmen are not puckhandlers, they play to chip it out to the grunts. At least that's what they did when they were successful. Maybe it just needs more time, Rome New York wasn't built in a day. In fact there were many bloody battles fought there.

Ha, Rome? Im in Utica. The entire area is a wasteland, but thats neither here nor there.

Excited for local kid Palmieri though.

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02-07-2013, 06:30 AM
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I think that the Lundqvist era is at an end. He's bleeding goals against and doesn't seem motivated at all. No glove hand, blocker seems off and he's slow on getting down... I think he should be traded.

I'll give you Dubnyk for Lundqvist straight up, hell I throw in Khabibulin as well just because I'm in a good mood. What do you say, two great keepers for the price of one who is already way down the hill?...

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02-07-2013, 07:05 AM
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i think hank will be fine. I admit he has been pretty awful but i think he will be like he was last year soon. In the meantime Biron has looked good so we can use Marty more until Hank is 100% ready

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02-07-2013, 07:33 AM
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I think that the Lundqvist era is at an end. He's bleeding goals against and doesn't seem motivated at all. No glove hand, blocker seems off and he's slow on getting down... I think he should be traded.

I'll give you Dubnyk for Lundqvist straight up, hell I throw in Khabibulin as well just because I'm in a good mood. What do you say, two great keepers for the price of one who is already way down the hill?...


The guy just came off his best season in his career and you think he's done? LMAO

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02-07-2013, 07:43 AM
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The guy just came off his best season in his career and you think he's done? LMAO
Relax he's being sarcastic. Trade Hank to us, he's done in NY

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02-07-2013, 07:46 AM
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I'm not worried about Hank. He improves as the season wears on. He thrives on playing lots of games. He will be the Hank we know he is. On a team with as many non-goaltending problems as this one has, harping on Lundqvist is just silly.

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02-08-2013, 08:02 AM
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Relax he's being sarcastic. Trade Hank to us, he's done in NY
I didn't forget to add the , I just didn't think it was necessary.

I guess the basic point is that it is easy to forget how it feels not to have a guy like Lundqvist (or Quick or Rinne) when things get tough. You are extremely lucky to have him and trust me when I say that the fans of around 20-25 other NHL teams dream of having a keeper like that...

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Hank has to play up to his own extremely high standards for this team to have success.

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Hank has to play up to his own extremely high standards for this team to have success.
And he does every year when it counts the most.

What do you call fans who because of a slow start attack even the Best player who has given us so much we could never repay him for??

'Yeah but that one Bruin goal Bluenote......'

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And he does every year when it counts the most.

What do you call fans who because of a slow start attack even the Best player who has given us so much we could never repay him for??
Well, I'm not going to speak for anyone else, but if you're talking about me...

I have not attacked Hank at all...nor am I rationalizing the goals he's given up.

Both Tortorella and Hank himself have stated he has to play better...and I agree with both of them. I'm not saying he's been terrible, I'm not blaming him for the losses, I'm not saying he's done, I'm not saying trade him.

I'm saying he has to play up to the standards he's set for himself as one of the top goalies in the league. When he plays below that, we have no chance.

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