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02-07-2013, 09:23 AM
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Chimera has elite speed and is responsible defensively. If we did this, it would be nice to get him coming back. It would give Bolland the winger he needs to help the shutdown line.

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02-07-2013, 11:14 AM
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It might not make sense, but I don't want to trade Bickell. Even for center depth. He's finally playing hard and well after two seasons of...not. I enjoy seeing him hustle, hit, and play well. Even if its not in the absolute best interest of the team to keep him over Eller
I know, it's very weird. It's probably just one of those "the team's playing well, don't disrupt it" things.. but for some reason, I don't want to "get rid" of Bickell anymore. I don't think I want Bickell to be resigned, but I want to keep him for the rest of the year. I'd rather see Stalberg go.

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I know, it's very weird. It's probably just one of those "the team's playing well, don't disrupt it" things.. but for some reason, I don't want to "get rid" of Bickell anymore. I don't think I want Bickell to be resigned, but I want to keep him for the rest of the year. I'd rather see Stalberg go.
You'd rather see Stalberg go than Bickell? I understand Stalberg getting traded for assets is the better long-term move, however, it's all about the Cup. You go for it. End of story.

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02-07-2013, 11:41 AM
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You'd rather see Stalberg go than Bickell? I understand Stalberg getting traded for assets is the better long-term move, however, it's all about the Cup. You go for it. End of story.
Stalberg has one goal and three points in 13 career playoff games. He's also not as physical as Bickell can be when he wants to be. If there's a chance to improve the team and the other team wanted Stalberg or Bickell (Like the MTL rumor of Stalberg/Bickell for Eller) than I would rather move Stalberg.

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02-07-2013, 12:12 PM
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At this point I don't think Stalberg will fetch as much unless he's going to a contender or that team wants to sign him long term.

Rather keep him for the playoffs than get some mid round pick for him.

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02-07-2013, 01:15 PM
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Guys, maybe ala Turris we can find a gem in Columbus in Johansen,


He has all the tools just needs another year and he can be a great high risk high reward player.

Things he could bring to our 2nd line,
-Size
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-and eventually good offence as he was drafted to have.

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02-07-2013, 01:32 PM
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Columbus just sent Ryan Johansen to their AHL team - so not sure if he qualifies as a 2C on a Cup contending team.


Ribiero is a terrible faceoff man - wouldn't want to add another sub 50% faceoff guy.

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02-07-2013, 01:40 PM
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There was a bit of talk about the Caps trading Brower back to the Hawks. I guess the Caps want more speed so maybe Stalberg for Brower.

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02-07-2013, 01:45 PM
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Ribiero is a terrible faceoff man - wouldn't want to add another sub 50% faceoff guy.
If he's going to get me 65-70 points, I don't care if he's 45% from the dot. He won't be taking the majority of the important offensive zone or defensive zone draws anyway.

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02-07-2013, 01:47 PM
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Columbus just sent Ryan Johansen to their AHL team - so not sure if he qualifies as a 2C on a Cup contending team.


Ribiero is a terrible faceoff man - wouldn't want to add another sub 50% faceoff guy.
Play Sharp on his left wing (which would make the most sense anyway) and let Sharpie take the draws.

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02-07-2013, 01:50 PM
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There was a bit of talk about the Caps trading Brower back to the Hawks. I guess the Caps want more speed so maybe Stalberg for Brower.
No thanks.

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02-07-2013, 01:53 PM
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Yeah I don't want Brouwer back either. The guy disappears when the playoffs arrive. That's the exact opposite of what the Hawks need. We need to find more Bolland/Byfuglien type players that crank it up in the playoffs.

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There was a bit of talk about the Caps trading Brower back to the Hawks. I guess the Caps want more speed so maybe Stalberg for Brower.
Bowman didn't resign Brouwer when he was set to make 2 mil per year. I doubt he will make a trade for him now that is going to make 3.6 mil per year for the next 3.

Plus 3.6 mil per year is far to much to pay for a 4th liner and that is exactly where he would be playing once he got on Q's bad side. Don't forget, Troy was a charter member in the dog house before he got traded.

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Yeah, they ****ed up with that contract. Good luck moving that for anything of value.

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02-07-2013, 02:52 PM
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I have no problem with going whats the best team in the league right now... we have many games left to see what we *really* need.

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If he's going to get me 65-70 points, I don't care if he's 45% from the dot. He won't be taking the majority of the important offensive zone or defensive zone draws anyway.
If the Hawks were to acquire a 2C that can win faceoffs, the guys they have now would score more because they wouldn't have to spend so much time and energy trying to get the puck back after losing another draw and another draw and another draw and another draw. Toews is the only one that wins the majority of his faceoffs. The Hawks could use another +50% faceoff centerman who combined with Toews could take something like around 75% of all the faceoffs.

I think a center at the 50-60 point level but wins faceoffs (like Weiss) will result in a net gain in scoring for the Hawks than if they had a center at the 60-70 point level who loses most of his faceoffs (like Ribiero). I'd rather have Bozak from Toronto with his 40 point scoring level over Ribiero, because he wins +56% of his faceoffs.


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If the Hawks were to acquire a 2C that can win faceoffs, the guys they have now would score more because they wouldn't have to so much time and energy trying to get the puck back after losing another draw and another draw and another draw and another draw. Toews is the only one that wins the majority of his faceoffs. The Hawks could use another +50% faceoff centerman who along with Toews could take something like around 75% of all the faceoffs.

I think a center at the 50-60 point level but wins faceoffs (like Weiss) will result in a net gain in scoring for the Hawks than if they had a center at the 60-70 point level who loses most of his faceoffs (like Ribiero). I'd rather have Bozak from Toronto with his 40 point scoring level over Ribiero, because he wins +56% of his faceoffs.
Not this crap again. Yes, having a center that wins more faceoffs is perferable, but you'd really sacrifice 20 points for a guy to win 10 more faceoffs out of 100? Thats insane.

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It shouldn't be too much longer before some teams start selling like the Sabres, Caps, Panthers, Islanders and maybe the Leafs. I doubt we see much of any inter-conference trades. Weiss would definitely be a nice addition to the Hawks.

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It shouldn't be too much longer before some teams start selling like the Sabres, Caps, Panthers, Islanders and maybe the Leafs. I doubt we see much of any inter-conference trades. Weiss would definitely be a nice addition to the Hawks.
Pretty sure the Panthers came out and said they aren't trading Weiss.

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Not this crap again. Yes, having a center that wins more faceoffs is perferable, but you'd really sacrifice 20 points for a guy to win 10 more faceoffs out of 100? Thats insane.
That's why I included the word "level" - as in "center at the 60-70 point level". PlayerA on TeamA may score 60-70 points because he has better linemates than PlayerB on TeamB who scores 50-60 point because he doesn't have as good of linemates as PlayerA. I'm not advocating putting a 4th line center who scores 20-30 points on the 2nd line just because he wins faceoffs. The 2C needs to have the offensive skill set required to play at a high level - both Ribeiro and Weiss meet that criteria, although Bozak is more of a 2C/3C tweener.

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Pretty sure the Panthers came out and said they aren't trading Weiss.


Any Weiss conversation would be predicated on the Panthers being out of playoff contention and that wouldn't be determined until the season gets closer to the TDL. I doubt Tallon would say anything but Weiss is not being traded right now - he still hopes they make a playoff run and wouldn't want to be pessimistic at this time. But, if Florida is out of it - why wouldn't Tallon trade Weiss and pick up some assets. Weiss has an expiring UFA contract and is free to re-sign with Florida after the season if he chooses.

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02-07-2013, 04:09 PM
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If the Hawks want a rental Iginla's contract is done this year. Calgary is already in the basement. I'm sure they would take some prospects + a pick. Just a question of the prorated cap hit and how much space Hawks have this year.

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If the Hawks want a rental Iginla's contract is done this year. Calgary is already in the basement. I'm sure they would take some prospects + a pick. Just a question of the prorated cap hit and how much space Hawks have this year.
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It shouldn't be too much longer before some teams start selling like the Sabres, Caps, Panthers, Islanders and maybe the Leafs. I doubt we see much of any inter-conference trades. Weiss would definitely be a nice addition to the Hawks.
Weiss would be a nice addition to a dozen or so teams though. I doubt the Hawks come out on top of any bidding wars this year. Especially with all the 3 point games so far in the west. Too many teams are going to be in the playoff mix who are either more desperate for help (and overpay), have the cap space to resign Weiss long term (and are willing to pay more because of it), or have better tradeable assets.

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If the Hawks want a rental Iginla's contract is done this year. Calgary is already in the basement. I'm sure they would take some prospects + a pick. Just a question of the prorated cap hit and how much space Hawks have this year.
They can definitely fit his contract in. Since Hossa, Iginla, and Kane all play RW does Kane move over to the left? To center?

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