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02-07-2013, 11:13 AM
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Leafs need a #1 center

obviously
amongst other things

the points being:
- is there a team out there willing to trade one (esp if they feel they have more than one)
- what would the team ask for in return
- preferably players not 1st rounders
- and preferably no one in this group (if so then likely more is involved coming back)

lupul -------- kessel
jvr kadri frattin
--- --- ---

gardiner phaneuf
reilly -----
--- -----

reimer
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02-07-2013, 11:16 AM
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So what we're saying is that we want a #1 Center in exchange for 3rd or 4th line players only.. and no draft picks.

If we're going to include Matt Frattin in this deal, then you're going to need to send us your #1C plus another player/pick

aaaaaaand GO!

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02-07-2013, 11:17 AM
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The obvious problems here are

a) not many teams are just willing to trade away number 1 centres.
b) If a team is willing to trade away number 1 centre then they're not that willing to do so without 1st rounders our our best prospects/players going back.

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02-07-2013, 11:19 AM
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so a 1C for junk is what youre saying.....

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02-07-2013, 11:21 AM
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let's put it this way
if we can't trade for one
then the best option is to tank it and draft one (albeit it means waiting 3 to 5 yrs)
i highly doubt theres a #1 center UFA out there waiting to come here in the summer

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02-07-2013, 11:22 AM
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The only players I would want to keep when dealing for a #1C are Kessel, Rielly, MAYBE JVR, Kadri, and Gardiner

I think a trade around Gardiner would be the best (legitimate) option. I'd love a trade around Grabovski++ for a #1C.

EDIT: When I say maybe to JVR, Kadri, and Gardiner it's just because I see their worth to us being greater than what other teams perceive them as.

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02-07-2013, 11:24 AM
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To get a #1 centre you either need to get him

1) Through the draft
2) Overpay in FA
3) Overpay with a trade (Kessel + Gardiner ect)

I would think #1 would be most appealing and I think Nonis would agree with me. Just seems like the direction he wants to take this team.

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02-07-2013, 11:25 AM
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The only players I would want to keep when dealing for a #1C are Kessel, Rielly, MAYBE JVR, Kadri, and Gardiner

I think a trade around Gardiner would be the best (legitimate) option. I'd love a trade around Grabovski++ for a #1C.

EDIT: When I say maybe to JVR, Kadri, and Gardiner it's just because I see their worth to us being greater than what other teams perceive them as.
risky but interesting idea (gardiner)
you mean for someone like o'rielly (same age group)?

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02-07-2013, 11:26 AM
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Rielly for O'Reilly straight up

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02-07-2013, 11:26 AM
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Kinda sorta get Kessel, but if players like Kadri, Frattin and Reimer are off limits for a 1C, what am I even reading?

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Rielly for O'Reilly straight up
No thanks, I value O'Reilly higher.

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im thinking a package of:

grabovsky
kulemin
gunnarsson

gardiner for o'reilly is interesting

if that cant do it then i wouldnt bother

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02-07-2013, 11:28 AM
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im thinking a package of:

grabovsky
kulemin
gunnarsson

if that cant do it then i wouldnt bother
Well then I have some bad news for you.....

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A) Most teams want to keep their centers. If they have two that could be #1 centers, they most likely want to keep them.

B) you want a #1 center without giving up Phaneuf, Gardiner, Reilly, Kadri, JVR, Lupul, Frattin, or Kessel??? Hey, line up people, you can trade your #1 center to the Leafs!! Unfortuanetely, they have a 9 player untouchable list, and ideally, no first round picks!!


Note: if you want one of those 9 players, you're probably going to have to send more than just a #1 center back

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Well then I have some bad news for you.....
hindsight it could be good news
getting a lottery pick might be the best deal of all

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02-07-2013, 11:31 AM
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Rielly + Kulemon for Oreilly.

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02-07-2013, 11:33 AM
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A) Most teams want to keep their centers. If they have two that could be #1 centers, they most likely want to keep them.

B) you want a #1 center without giving up Phaneuf, Gardiner, Reilly, Kadri, JVR, Lupul, Frattin, or Kessel??? Hey, line up people, you can trade your #1 center to the Leafs!! Unfortuanetely, they have a 9 player untouchable list, and ideally, no first round picks!!


Note: if you want one of those 9 players, you're probably going to have to send more than just a #1 center back
Exactly , and unless we want to do a unproper rebuild once again and trade some of our best prospects/players and picks , then there is not point of doing this .

Good thing Nonis is our GM and not some of these posters.

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Rielly for O'Reilly straight up
I don't know if that was a joke, but it's a pretty good proposal anyways. Avs have Duschene and Stastny as top 2 centers and the Leafs still have Gardiner as a power play QB prospect.

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So what we're saying is that we want a #1 Center in exchange for 3rd or 4th line players only.. and no draft picks.

If we're going to include Matt Frattin in this deal, then you're going to need to send us your #1C plus another player/pick

aaaaaaand GO!
Exactly. Welcome to HF. Now lets spend the next 12 paces discussing how that isn't possible.

Ticket for a number 1 center: suck this year and draft McKinnon.

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Rielly + Kulemon for Oreilly.
Values probably there depending how high you are on Rielly but personally I wouldn't do it because I have an unreasonable love for O'Reilly and don't want to take the risk on Reilly when we have Barrie and Elliot (even though they are a tier or two below Reilly).

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hindsight it could be good news
getting a lottery pick might be the best deal of all
Yeah, longterm it's probably better to tank and get another core piece. However, I don't like having that losing attitude, although sometimes it is necessary.

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any interest in Galchenyuk?

I know he is not a first line center yet, but the potential is there.

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B) you want a #1 center without giving up Phaneuf, Gardiner, Reilly, Kadri, JVR, Lupul, Frattin, or Kessel???

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no

but more would have to come to back in a multiplayer package if player(s) in that group are involved
it would be preferable not to thats all

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ROR is the obvious target. But you're going to have to give up a Defenseman you hold dear to your team. Gotta give to get.

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Values probably there depending how high you are on Rielly but personally I wouldn't do it because I have an unreasonable love for O'Reilly and don't want to take the risk on Reilly when we have Barrie and Elliot (even though they are a tier or two below Reilly).
I lol'd

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something around Gardiner for Stastny ?

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