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KHL (Kontinental Hockey League) 2012-2013 General Discussion part III

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02-06-2013, 07:48 AM
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There was a seminar how to make clean/white ice in KHL a few days ago.
Company Jetice presented its technologies. We will see if KHL clubs use this way of preparing ice in foreseeable future.

http://www.khl.ru/news/2013/2/6/69366.html

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02-06-2013, 08:54 AM
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Albany of the AHL who Hrabrenka plays for also signed Stefan Stepanov, 20 yo from Avto who was kicked from Sudbury years ago for some secret incident.
he tried to stab a teammate, no secret. the guy has some offensive talent, but hasn't panned out into much and got chances for CSKA and Avto.

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02-06-2013, 08:55 AM
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Why is the KHL on break for a week?

I don't think the KHL should be taking so many breaks during the season. I think it probably breaks the momentum of the season to break for every international tournament and such.

I can see the break at xmas, but I hope the KHL moves towards a more consistent schedule after Sochi. I say that since people here have mentioned they plan to lengthen the schedule and become more "above" the rest of the leagues like the NHL after that right?
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02-06-2013, 09:29 AM
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These frequent breaks suck, especially for totally meaningless tournaments like the one Slovakia plays in this week. Slovakia only plays meaningless international games the entire season long, except for the 2 weeks of World Championships. And a KHL break like the one right now is not just 1 week -- it's almost 2 weeks!

Such breaks are a relict of the past, of old-fashioned, 20th-century style, small-time, amateurish European hockey leagues. A grand enterprise like the KHL or NHL is incompatible with such a disrupted schedule -- or only to its detriment.
EHT events bring money to the federations. Simple as that. You need these tournaments/games to test players for World Championships.

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02-06-2013, 10:18 AM
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EHT events bring money to the federations. Simple as that. You need these tournaments/games to test players for World Championships.
this tournament is so boring now, they do need to restructure it somehow.

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02-06-2013, 10:46 AM
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this tournament is so boring now, they do need to restructure it somehow.
There was report a few weeks ago that they want to change the format of the tournament for next season on. There was limited information but it seems 8 countries split into two Groups, you play double match with same opponent during each break, the last break is for Championship and I assume 3rd and 5th place matches.

So example....

Group A
Russia, Finland, Germany, Latvia

Group B
Czech Rep, Sweden, Switzerland, Belarus

First Break: Russia-Finland, Germany-Latvia....Czech Rep-Sweden, Swiss-Belarus
Second Break: Russia-Latvia, Germany-Finland...Czech Rep.-Belarus, Swiss-Sweden

This way, you shorten the International breaks for the participating countries, those who take part in EIHC or other random tournaments can still have week long break if they so wish. You could interchange the bottom 4 if you so wished. They are suppose to discuss this change sometime this weekend.

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02-06-2013, 10:50 AM
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this tournament is so boring now, they do need to restructure it somehow.
The best restructuring would be to cancel it.

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You need these tournaments/games to test players for World Championships.
No, that's old-era prejudice. How many preparation games does Canada's national team play before Olympic Games? That's right, zero.

Also, I'm not aware that only 4 teams play in the World Championships. You can keep these third-rate tournaments for third-world hockey countries like Mozambique, but don't insult fans in traditional hockey countries with this nonsense, interrupting an exciting league contest because of it all the time.

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02-06-2013, 11:07 AM
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http://allhockey.ru/articles/142635/

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02-06-2013, 02:11 PM
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Seems guys got a contract. Good move by KHL.

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02-06-2013, 09:25 PM
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So whats happened in the CSKA-Spartak game?

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02-07-2013, 06:53 AM
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So whats happened in the CSKA-Spartak game?
bunch of fans got in a fight with the cops

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02-07-2013, 09:49 AM
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Slovan signed Rostislav Čada for 5 seasons!!!(until april 2018)


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Slovan signed Rostislav Čada for 5 seasons!!!(until april 2018)

Q is if he stayed in Slovan until 2018. Of course, I wish him luck. Who knows who will be Slovan´s owner in 2018

still, good news for Slovan

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02-07-2013, 10:10 AM
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Contract length is rather odd, but a great move in order to get his signature for the future.

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02-07-2013, 11:05 AM
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Slovan management were (jokingly) mentioning Sir Alex Ferguson as role model regarding the contract length... but more appropriate comparisons would be Lindy Ruff (Sabres coach since 1997) or Barry Trotz (Predators coach since 1998). Keeping a coach long-term can work out fine, and of Čada's qualities, there is little doubt (despite how Omsk treated him). I'd say that Slovan's successes this season are about 30% due to Čada, 30% due to Janus, and the rest due to the rest.

(Now, it would be tragic if Slovan failed to move on to this year's play-offs after signing such a contract -- it can still happen, I'm afraid.)

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02-07-2013, 03:06 PM
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Slovan management were (jokingly) mentioning Sir Alex Ferguson as role model regarding the contract length... but more appropriate comparisons would be Lindy Ruff (Sabres coach since 1997) or Barry Trotz (Predators coach since 1998). Keeping a coach long-term can work out fine, and of Čada's qualities, there is little doubt (despite how Omsk treated him). I'd say that Slovan's successes this season are about 30% due to Čada, 30% due to Janus, and the rest due to the rest.

(Now, it would be tragic if Slovan failed to move on to this year's play-offs after signing such a contract -- it can still happen, I'm afraid.)
Dont worry about it, they're locked in.

I predicted that even before the season started

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02-07-2013, 03:36 PM
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Dont worry about it, they're locked in.
Slovan is not locked in by any means. 3 more points are needed to clinch the play-offs. (Perhaps fewer will be needed in the end, but 77 points is necessary right now to clinch.) Slovan lost 3 of its last 4 home games. They can also lose all 3 remaining road games, and still finish 10th in Western Conference. 4 teams can still overtake them. Only Donbass and Lev play against each other, but that doesn't prevent either of them from overtaking Slovan, in case Slovan loses all 3 remaining games.

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Slovan is not locked in by any means. 3 more points are needed to clinch the play-offs. (Perhaps fewer will be needed in the end, but 77 points is necessary right now to clinch.) Slovan lost 3 of its last 4 home games. They can also lose all 3 remaining road games, and still finish 10th in Western Conference. 4 teams can still overtake them. Only Donbass and Lev play against each other, but that doesn't prevent either of them from overtaking Slovan, in case Slovan loses all 3 remaining games.
I realize that mathematically they aren't, but they only need to pull off one win and are ahead of the competition. The previous losses only mean that they are bound to win soon. Tight race nonetheless!

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02-08-2013, 04:08 AM
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theres rumors that Kazan wants Redlihs to be on a wing with Darzins next season.

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02-08-2013, 07:28 AM
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EHT events bring money to the federations. Simple as that.
federations cant pimp their own business at cost of their leagues/clubs. I understand they need money for countless youth tournaments, youth development programmes etc, as World Championship/WCJ alone are profitable enough. Federations shouldnt lose focus - purpose of developing youth is to prepare them for big hockey, but shouldnt be priority for federation but rather for clubs.

Whats happening now is crippling domestic leagues just to milk some money off sponsors during meaningless international tournaments. Then they make money, throw it on youth hockey, expensive peewee tournament (as I mentiond earlier, WCH/WCJ are profitable enough) and then Europe lose most talented youngsters to overseas anyway.


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You need these tournaments/games to test players for World Championships.
you dont need these games/tournies so often, especially not when you remove european based players by NHLers week before WCH start.

Take it from other side, only fraction of all european pro players are in action during those tournies (2 simultanous tournies like EHL + German/Swiss/whatever Cup = 8 NTs = about 180 players) while other 2000-3000 pro players are just practising, wasting time and taking salaries for nothing. What federations gain, clubs lose.


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The current damn pseudo-tournament in Norway is so unimportant that not a single Slovak TV channel bothers to show the Slovak national team's games today and tomorrow. Does anything more need to be said?

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Mojzis signs 1 year extension with Slovan.

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The best restructuring would be to cancel it.
best for you obviously.


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No, that's old-era prejudice. How many preparation games does Canada's national team play before Olympic Games? That's right, zero.
That's short sighted.

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Also, I'm not aware that only 4 teams play in the World Championships. You can keep these third-rate tournaments for third-world hockey countries like Mozambique, but don't insult fans in traditional hockey countries with this nonsense, interrupting an exciting league contest because of it all the time.
Once again by now we know you don't like the fact Slovakia can't participate.

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Mojzis signs 1 year extension with Slovan.
who knows if they signs Vondrka before end of season.

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Mojzis signs 1 year extension with Slovan.
Good for him, and them. He's been solid. And he had a (for him untypical) spectacular, highlight-reel goal last week, going through 4 or all 5 opposing players before scoring from the blue line. Was it among the KHL's Goals of the Week? It definitely should have.

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who knows if they signs Vondrka before end of season.
I hope so. He's a great guy and one of Slovan's leaders this season, although he sometimes has off games, too.

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