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02-07-2013, 02:47 PM
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Pouliot had his highest goal total and points with the Bruins. By far his best +/- and 5 GWG.

A 3rd line guy that gets 30ish points while being kinda physical and having size ? Count me in.
If Pouliot is "kinda physical", then David Desharnais is Milan Lucic. And who cares if he has size if he never uses it. Proof that some people would rather have a tall team than a good team, IMO.

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02-07-2013, 03:47 PM
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Benny Poo was a victim of Jacques Martin. I'm glad he got his career somewhat on track.
Benny Poo was the victim of being a bust.

He was the same player for Julien he was for Martin, a depth scorer who can be useful when sheltered, except when he's falling down and taking stupid penalties.

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02-07-2013, 03:49 PM
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Pouliot had his highest goal total and points with the Bruins. By far his best +/- and 5 GWG.

A 3rd line guy that gets 30ish points while being kinda physical and having size ? Count me in.
If he was that well liked he wouldn't be on his 4th organisation in 4 or 5 years. He is too hot and cold both offensively and in the physical game.

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02-07-2013, 03:55 PM
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Pouliot could you imagine if Andre Savard had of got his way in that draft.

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02-07-2013, 03:56 PM
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I watched a tampa game recently and he looks ok out there, they commentator said he was playing well because there's no pressure in tampa like there is in montreal or boston

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02-07-2013, 04:19 PM
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Stupid Isles giving up a 2nd if Thomas reports. Ugh.

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02-07-2013, 04:19 PM
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The Islanders traded a conditional 2nd round pick in 2014 for Tim Thomas.

From Cup MVP to throwaway in a deal to the Islanders.

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02-07-2013, 04:20 PM
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If Pouliot is "kinda physical", then David Desharnais is Milan Lucic. And who cares if he has size if he never uses it. Proof that some people would rather have a tall team than a good team, IMO.
Not sure if serious....

Desharnais rarely plays the body... You're smarter than that, or you just have a massive hatred towards Pouliot. He did a lot of dumb things, but he at least threw a hit.

I didn't say I'd take him over a more skilled player, but if you have a 5'8 player getting 30 points on the bottom 6, or a 6'3 getting the same for the same salary... You tell me who you're going to take.

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If he was that well liked he wouldn't be on his 4th organisation in 4 or 5 years. He is too hot and cold both offensively and in the physical game.
Well, he must be well liked in some capacity if that many teams are willing to take a chance on him, no ?

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02-07-2013, 04:28 PM
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Well, he must be well liked in some capacity if that many teams are willing to take a chance on him, no ?
That's what he is, a journeyman that teams take a chance on. Low end 3rd liner. If he was a guy they really liked he'd be on a 2-4 yaer deal(see Prust Eller Moen DD etc).

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02-07-2013, 04:40 PM
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Stupid Isles giving up a 2nd if Thomas reports. Ugh.
But they must be pretty sure he won't report. Or wouldn't pass a physical if he did, whichever.

Bruins clear cap space, so they can add in a deadline buyer trade, even if they never get the pick, win for them.

Isles get locked-in 35+ cap space so that if they trade Streit or Visnovsky or whoever they might consider trading if they end up selling at the deadline, there is no danger they go below the floor. They must have run their numbers and found it could be close if they did make somesuch moves, so wanted to add a bit more. Or Chiarelli ran them and told them about the possibility, whichever. Bonus for the Isles is that they don't have to pay Thomas anything to still get the cap hit. Maybe it's even a second bonus if they can toll his contract and get the phantom cap hit to reach next year's floor too?

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02-07-2013, 04:46 PM
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Thomas is not reporting, it's just a move for NYI to stay above the cap floor.

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But they must be pretty sure he won't report. Or wouldn't pass a physical if he did, whichever.

Bruins clear cap space, so they can add in a deadline buyer trade, even if they never get the pick, win for them.

Isles get locked-in 35+ cap space so that if they trade Streit or Visnovsky or whoever they might consider trading if they end up selling at the deadline, there is no danger they go below the floor. They must have run their numbers and found it could be close if they did make somesuch moves, so wanted to add a bit more. Or Chiarelli ran them and told them about the possibility, whichever. Bonus for the Isles is that they don't have to pay Thomas anything to still get the cap hit. Maybe it's even a second bonus if they can toll his contract and get the phantom cap hit to reach next year's floor too?
It's sort of a win-win for the Islanders even next year, either they find a way to extend the phantom cap hit, or they use him as leverage if Nabakov wants to come back.

I hate seeing CBA loopholes exploited like this, it breaks the league, but Boston and the Islanders are just playing the game.

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This lends credence to the theory that Gauthier had indeed a deal in place to trade Gomez to the islanders but Gomez nixed it with his partial NTC.

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02-07-2013, 04:52 PM
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It's sort of a win-win for the Islanders even next year, either they find a way to extend the phantom cap hit, or they use him as leverage if Nabakov wants to come back.

I hate seeing CBA loopholes exploited like this, it breaks the league, but Boston and the Islanders are just playing the game.
It's a pretty "out of the ordinary" scenario. I don't see it as something we will see every year like the 10 year back diving contracts.

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It's sort of a win-win for the Islanders even next year, either they find a way to extend the phantom cap hit, or they use him as leverage if Nabakov wants to come back.

I hate seeing CBA loopholes exploited like this, it breaks the league, but Boston and the Islanders are just playing the game.
I guess they can only get his cap hit once... either this year, or if they tolled it, next year. I doubt they can get it this year and then toll it for next both, of course. But anyway, it's free floor insurance if they opt to cash in the impending-UFA trade chips like Visnovsky and Streit this year. Then again, the Visnovsky and Streit cap hits are almost assuredly disappearing next year when those guys are UFA, so maybe they are already planning a bare-bones budget for next season and plan to toll Thomas for that eventuality. Either way, it makes sense for them. They should have just said a conditional 7th or something, though. I can just see Chiarelli holding out saying, hey make it a 2nd, juuuuuust in case. Extra dramatic effect. But not fooling anybody about the cap circumvention intentions.

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02-07-2013, 04:55 PM
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Thomas is not reporting, it's just a move for NYI to stay above the cap floor.
If Thomas won't report, how can his salary be applied to the cap?

Sounds like another unplugged loophole.

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02-07-2013, 05:00 PM
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If Thomas won't report, how can his salary be applied to the cap?

Sounds like another unplugged loophole.
He is a 35+, like Spacek was last year, can't "bury" or "retire" them off the cap. It's to prevent teams from signing 35+ players to 5-6 year deals do make a tiny cap hit and have it disappear upon retirement...rule from original cap CBA in 2005.

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02-07-2013, 05:32 PM
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The B's get cap relief? Something smells funny here...

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02-07-2013, 05:34 PM
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He is a 35+, like Spacek was last year, can't "bury" or "retire" them off the cap. It's to prevent teams from signing 35+ players to 5-6 year deals do make a tiny cap hit and have it disappear upon retirement...rule from original cap CBA in 2005.
Right, thanks. I actually knew that, but thought it wouldn't apply to an AWOL.

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Chiarelli just knows what to do. Either way, Bruins win. They have a very good goalie...they clear cap space and/or have an Isles 2nd rounder.

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Chiarelli just knows what to do. Either way, Bruins win. They have a very good goalie...they clear cap space and/or have an Isles 2nd rounder.
They won't get a pick since he won't report.

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02-07-2013, 06:06 PM
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Kovalev a healthy scratch. Apparently not cutting it and he plays for the mighty Panthers? Hang 'em up Alex before you embarrass yourself more.

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02-07-2013, 06:11 PM
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Kovalev a healthy scratch. Apparently not cutting it and he plays for the mighty Panthers? Hang 'em up Alex before you embarrass yourself more.
In a shocking move that everybody, with the exception of the Panthers' front office, saw coming...

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Kovalev a healthy scratch. Apparently not cutting it and he plays for the mighty Panthers? Hang 'em up Alex before you embarrass yourself more.
Well he was due for another big game.

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In other news, JT Miller has two goals on his first two NHL shots.

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