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02-07-2013, 04:40 PM
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Slightly off topic: but is there a franchise that over values their players more than New Jersey does?
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Slightly off topic: but is there a franchise that over values their players more than New Jersey does?
i'm sorry, Toronto?

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Slightly off topic: but is there a franchise that over values their players more than New Jersey does?
Yup. The Maple Leafs.

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i'm sorry, Toronto?
That's a common misconception around here. More so people defending our players because any proposal made by a Toronto fan is automatically "LOLZ WOWW" and only acceptable if we trade half our roster plus 1st rounders.

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I would really like him on the Senators this season.

Does he also play wing?

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That's a common misconception around here. More so people defending our players because any proposal made by a Toronto fan is automatically "LOLZ WOWW" and only acceptable if we trade half our roster plus 1st rounders.
No. That is like when someone explains what your house smells like. You can't decipher it because you live in it. Maple Leaf fans can't see how over rated they make their players. They don't have the perspective of an outsider.

Regardless. Malkin, Stamkos, Doughty, Keith or bust. No way we are trading ROR for less than that.

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Slightly off topic: but is there a franchise that over values their players more than New Jersey does?
Yes. The other 29 of them. As much so, anyhow.

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If the compensation for an offer sheet is likely a 1st + 3rd (somewhere between 3.5-5M a year), a team likely to get a late 1st should try to make the deal. I don't think a team with a top-10 pick should make it, but if a team is likely to pick 20-30 I think RoR is worth it. Chicago, for example, could really use a good second-line center. Then again, I guess they can't offersheet him because they traded away their 2nd + 3rd for Oduya. Bad example but it's got to be worth it for somebody.

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If the compensation for an offer sheet is likely a 1st + 3rd (somewhere between 3.5-5M a year), a team likely to get a late 1st should try to make the deal. I don't think a team with a top-10 pick should make it, but if a team is likely to pick 20-30 I think RoR is worth it. Chicago, for example, could really use a good second-line center. Then again, I guess they can't offersheet him because they traded away their 2nd + 3rd for Oduya. Bad example but it's got to be worth it for somebody.
As said many times in many ways, Unless the 1st is guaranteed top 5, anything 5M or less will be matched by Colorado. Even if it means trading him later on in the contract.

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Nothing to do with value but I dont think the habs would part with gorges. He is captain material. Prospects and picks would be what the habs offer IMO
We are looking for proven players with potential, what ROR basically is.

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Slightly off topic: but is there a franchise that over values their players more than New Jersey does?
On this trading forum? Probably Toronto
On the prospect forum? Definitely Ottawa (Love them though)

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No. That is like when someone explains what your house smells like. You can't decipher it because you live in it. Maple Leaf fans can't see how over rated they make their players. They don't have the perspective of an outsider.

Regardless. Malkin, Stamkos, Doughty, Keith or bust. No way we are trading ROR for less than that.
As a non-beLeafer living in the thick of it all, I can assure you that plenty of radio airtime on our sports stations is spent bashing various aspects of the Leafs, from players right up to corporate. And this is on a station that's owned by the same owners the Leafs have.

And any Torontonian who knows Andy Frost and listens to Leafs Talk after the game, can tell you just what the opinion is of the team following any loss.

After 45 years (and counting) of failure, you'd be hard-pressed to convince anyone in this city that everyone overrates the Leafs.

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No. That is like when someone explains what your house smells like. You can't decipher it because you live in it. Maple Leaf fans can't see how over rated they make their players. They don't have the perspective of an outsider.

Regardless. Malkin, Stamkos, Doughty, Keith or bust. No way we are trading ROR for less than that.
I'm a huge fan of ROR but you've gotta be joking right?

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No. That is like when someone explains what your house smells like. You can't decipher it because you live in it. Maple Leaf fans can't see how over rated they make their players. They don't have the perspective of an outsider.

Regardless. Malkin, Stamkos, Doughty, Keith or bust. No way we are trading ROR for less than that.


I know you weren't trying to be ironic, but....

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No. That is like when someone explains what your house smells like. You can't decipher it because you live in it. Maple Leaf fans can't see how over rated they make their players. They don't have the perspective of an outsider.

Regardless. Malkin, Stamkos, Doughty, Keith or bust. No way we are trading ROR for less than that.
Make fun of a fanbase and terribly embarrass yourself in the same post. Well done.

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Whichever team he goes to, you have to think Colorado will want a center and a defenseman going back. Mitchell and Olver are both 4th liners and that D is pretty weak.

I can see something like Wilson, Blum/Josi and a 1st from Nashville.

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The Oilers are better off drafting high.
Because drafting high has worked out so well for us..

I would rather have a good 2-way 2C then another prospect.

Gagner should be moved to the wing anyways. He has a great compete level but he sucks at faceoffs.

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Regardless. Malkin, Stamkos, Doughty, Keith or bust. No way we are trading ROR for less than that.
are you being serious? lol

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Make fun of a fanbase and terribly embarrass yourself in the same post. Well done.
He's obviously not being serious with that last part.

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Make fun of a fanbase and terribly embarrass yourself in the same post. Well done.
There is a software update for your sarcasm detector out now.

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Hawks armchair GM here....

Would Bolland/Sharp and a prospect like Morin be enough to bring RoR to Chicago? Hawks don't have a 2nd or a 3rd rounder so don't see them offering picks to Avs
I'd do Sharp for O'Reilly straight up every day of the week.

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Fanbases overrating their players and prospects and underrating the players and prospects of other teams is the foundation the comedy of this forum is built on. Don't knock it.

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How about O'Reilly to Buffalo for Ennis +?

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How about O'Reilly to Buffalo for Ennis +?
No.

Only piece that interests me from Buffalo is Tyler Myers

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