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02-07-2013, 02:51 PM
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Seguin + for Ovechkin?

I know the timing might not be ideal for Boston to make a trade when they are on such a hot streak... but Seguin hasnt been lighting the world on fire anyhow. The kid clearly has world class skill, but he hasnt yet stepped forward to become THE MAN, and its possible he never will.

Meanwhile Washington has proven they have chemistry problems over the past few years... and Ovechkin has emerged as a very controversial part of it. When he is playing at his best, he is one of the top 2-3 players in the world. Even when hes 'struggling' most of us would still put him in the top 50 players in the NHL.

So, talk is... Washington might be forced to consider trading him to fix their problems? If so... i am here to wonder if Boston should be the team to step up and make the deal?

The question I pose then... would a package of Seguin and spare parts be enough to land Ovechkin? {Boston would need Washington to eat around 3-4 million cap hit as part of this deal}

Looking for feedback also from Boston fans too... would you all freak if we traded the much younger Seguin for Ovechkin {remember Ovechkin is signed for like the next 8 years while Seguin is eligible for UFA before then}

final challange to anyone that wants to take it up... what would Boston need to add to make this work for Washington? Personally id only be willing to part with spare parts... no other core elements. I do think Seguin is a lock to be a steady 30 goal-70 point guy or better for the majority of his career... so Ovechkin isnt a guaranteed improvement over the long haul. in 3 years or so Seguin might be the better player even.

I do this deal to try to win now... I hope Ovechkin responds to a change of scenery and meshes with Krecji and returns to 50 goal form. if that happens, I do trade Seguin with no regrets.

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I do this deal to try to win now... I hope Ovechkin responds to a change of scenery and meshes with Krecji and returns to 50 goal form. if that happens, I do trade Seguin with no regrets.
I don't even know where to start with this. I'll just say that neither side does it.

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Does Washington need more centers?

Does Boston have the cap space?

I am not affiliated with either fanbase, but these seem like the only things I feel prepared to comment on.

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Let me think ab- NO

We don't have the cap space, and depending on the +, it isn't worth it.

I don't know if he'll fall more or reach his standard again, but it's a risk neither Chiarelli nor I would be willing to take. He's signed at an absurd cap hit for the next 8 years. Washington would ask for too much and we wouldn't be willing at all. For Ovechkin, you're looking at a + of Rask or Hamilton. Nope.

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I don't even know where to start with this. I'll just say that neither side does it.
Really? Cause I think the Caps gm would injure himself, rushing to complete the paperwork before the Boston gm came to his senses.

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BOS would never do this

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HELL NO!

Ovechkin has been declining for the last 3 years and has shown no signs of recovering his old form. Maybe a change of scenery is what he needs, but who would risk a potential 20 year old superstar to find out?

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Seguin has more value than Ovie right now and both are trending in very different directions

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Why would we trade the better player and then some for Ovechkin?

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02-07-2013, 03:36 PM
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If Washington trades Ovechkin, they're sure as hell not eating salary to do it.

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Does Washington need more centers?

Does Boston have the cap space?

I am not affiliated with either fanbase, but these seem like the only things I feel prepared to comment on.
seguin hasnt yet proven hes a center at the NHL level. he might actually be better suited to be a winger? And the deal doesnt work unless Washington eats enough salary to make it work.

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boston laughs at this......ovechkin is over half way to yashin,....sad.

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Ovechkin?

You guys can have Kessel straight up for Seguin!




B's fans should be patient, some guys don't deal with change well.. Give him time to get back in NHL mode and he'll be fine.. Less space and much better players. Kid works hard, he'll get through it.

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Taking cap into account, I'd much, much, much rather have Seguin.

Even on his second contract he will still only be making 60% of what Ovechkin makes while producing probably identical offensive numbers and much greater defensive acumen.

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as a Habs fan, I'd drive to Boston, grab Seguin and drive him to the airport...

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Can we Lynch the op of this thread

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Are you guys joking? Ovi is leaps and bounds worth more than seguin. Seguin is worth a lot but ovi even in this form is still a top 15 forward in the league

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At this point I would not trade Seguin alone for Ovechkin and that contract.

Seguin is playing better than him right now, is also cheaper and younger.

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Are you guys joking? Ovi is leaps and bounds worth more than seguin. Seguin is worth a lot but ovi even in this form is still a top 15 forward in the league
False.

He is not "leaps and bounds" worth more than Seguin.

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My instinct wonders why on earth Boston would ADD to Seguin.

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Should of traded for Seguin + Tim Thomas




Send em to D.C

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The Bruins taking on a guy with an AWFUL contract, who's on the decline, and would likely b*tch and moan when Julien asks him to do what's necessary to play his defensive system? No thanks.

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I know the timing might not be ideal for Boston to make a trade when they are on such a hot streak... but Seguin hasnt been lighting the world on fire anyhow. The kid clearly has world class skill, but he hasnt yet stepped forward to become THE MAN, and its possible he never will.

Meanwhile Washington has proven they have chemistry problems over the past few years... and Ovechkin has emerged as a very controversial part of it. When he is playing at his best, he is one of the top 2-3 players in the world. Even when hes 'struggling' most of us would still put him in the top 50 players in the NHL.

So, talk is... Washington might be forced to consider trading him to fix their problems? If so... i am here to wonder if Boston should be the team to step up and make the deal?

The question I pose then... would a package of Seguin and spare parts be enough to land Ovechkin? {Boston would need Washington to eat around 3-4 million cap hit as part of this deal}

Looking for feedback also from Boston fans too... would you all freak if we traded the much younger Seguin for Ovechkin {remember Ovechkin is signed for like the next 8 years while Seguin is eligible for UFA before then}

final challange to anyone that wants to take it up... what would Boston need to add to make this work for Washington? Personally id only be willing to part with spare parts... no other core elements. I do think Seguin is a lock to be a steady 30 goal-70 point guy or better for the majority of his career... so Ovechkin isnt a guaranteed improvement over the long haul. in 3 years or so Seguin might be the better player even.

I do this deal to try to win now... I hope Ovechkin responds to a change of scenery and meshes with Krecji and returns to 50 goal form. if that happens, I do trade Seguin with no regrets.

So 9 games are enough to make him the odd man out, good God...

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I think there is the makings of a deal between these teams but Seguin is not going to be involved. The Bruin now have the room to take on Ovechkin's money have the depth at center to part with either Bergeron or Kreici and anotehr peice or 2.

Would Washington turn down Bergeron,Hamilton and a 1st for Ovechkin?

I am sure there will be a ton of posts about how good Bergeron is and how Hamilton is untouchable blah blah blah. This has the makings of the Thorton trade all over again in reverse. Ovechkin is expensive for a reason and its because he's a monster when he wants to be. The problem is the washington situation is stale for him and he needs a change.


So ask yourself a question Boston fans would ovechkin improve your chances of winning the cup? I say he gives them the impact forward they are missing and paired up with Seguin gives them a powerhouse for the next 5 years. Bergeron is going to be missed, but they have one to many centers right now anyways.

Washington fans will want more, but truth be told this is a pretty good return. They get a premier faceoff man and one of the under 21 d-men in the world. They have the money to sign Bergeron long term and add a first in a strong draft.

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I cannot believe a Bruins fan proposed this. Ridiculous for so many reasons.

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