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02-08-2013, 01:53 PM
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Oilers fan here, trying to go with a Neutral chime-in:

Return on the Kovalchuk Trade (Kovalchuk being worth more than Iginla):
Johnny Oduya
Niclas Bergfors
Patrice Cormier
1st Round pick

Return on the Kaberle Trade:
Joe Colborne
first-round pick



Those IMHO are the outlying contexts for a deadline trades.

Boston is likely looking at giving up Hamilton, a 1st, and an aforementioned prospect goalie as starting point.

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02-08-2013, 01:54 PM
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People mentioning Hamilton's name can't be serious. Wouldn't trade him for Iginla straight up. Also, Boston would have zero interest J-Bow.

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02-08-2013, 01:56 PM
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People mentioning Hamilton's name can't be serious. Wouldn't trade him for Iginla straight up. Also, Boston would have zero interest J-Bow.
Hamilton is 19 and in our Top 4. He's not going anywhere, especially not for a rental.

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Hamilton is 19 and in our Top 4. He's not going anywhere, especially not for a rental.
Exactly. It'd maybe be Caron and a prospect or two. This isn't Iginla of 10 years ago we're talking about.

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Oilers fan here, trying to go with a Neutral chime-in:

Return on the Kovalchuk Trade (Kovalchuk being worth more than Iginla):
Johnny Oduya
Niclas Bergfors
Patrice Cormier
1st Round pick

Return on the Kaberle Trade:
Joe Colborne
first-round pick



Those IMHO are the outlying contexts for a deadline trades.

Boston is likely looking at giving up Hamilton, a 1st, and an aforementioned prospect goalie as starting point.
Hamilton? I wouldn't give up Hamilton alone for Iginla. Hamilton is completely untouchable.

I'd love to get Iginla, J-Bo cap wise wouldn't work for Boston going forward.

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02-08-2013, 02:03 PM
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People mentioning Hamilton's name can't be serious. Wouldn't trade him for Iginla straight up. Also, Boston would have zero interest J-Bow.
I don't blame you the kid is something special.

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02-08-2013, 02:03 PM
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The op was for both! Agreed Hamilton isn't likely to be moved but without him, Marchand or Krejci, the deal really isn't worth it from a Flames perspective

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Can't believe people are saying this is fair, just a whole bunch of **** and not enough gold going to Calgary.

If they trade their franchise winger and d-man, they need Subban/Hamilton/1st 2013 type mix.



Is that you Brian???? All that for a UFA

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02-08-2013, 02:10 PM
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I agree others could offer a better package. But i really believe Subban is going to be a good goalie in the nhl someday, and from what i can see this years draft is deep ( and good ) one. My thinking was that Calgary would be rebuilding the right way ( youth ) and we would get the power play help we've needed for awhile now ......
Maybe, but Calgary already has a bunch of what looks like decent prospect goalies in the system and Ramo on the way next year.

Any package that the Flames get if they decided to trade Iggy and Bou needs to address their prospect needs, and the prospect needs are not in goal and really not on the wings, its at center and its with puck moving offensive defensemen.

If the package doesn't bring those back its not going to happen.

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02-08-2013, 02:12 PM
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I could see if you said that Kelly and Boychuk aren't what the Flames would be looking for, but to say they bring nothing to the deal is silly. If those guys wouldn't bring anything to the Flames they must be one of the best teams in the league.
They won't help the team is what I'm saying, trading iginla implys a rebuild, those 2 will only be in there for the cap

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02-08-2013, 02:13 PM
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I don't blame you the kid is something special.
Definitely excited about his future with B's.

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02-08-2013, 02:16 PM
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Boychuk and Kelly have no trades clauses. But assuming Iginla walks at the end of the year I bet he gets traded at the deadline. Boston doesn't really have a need for JayBo not to mention his 6.8 mil cap hit for next year when we need to resign keys players like Rask or even Horton. I really like Iginla he would look great in Boston. I rather get a rental player with a contract that's up at the end of the year. If Iginla comes to Boston and takes a home town discount then great keep him next year and that makes Horton expendable.

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Oilers fan here, trying to go with a Neutral chime-in:

Return on the Kovalchuk Trade (Kovalchuk being worth more than Iginla):
Johnny Oduya
Niclas Bergfors
Patrice Cormier
1st Round pick

Return on the Kaberle Trade:
Joe Colborne
first-round pick



Those IMHO are the outlying contexts for a deadline trades.

Boston is likely looking at giving up Hamilton, a 1st, and an aforementioned prospect goalie as starting point.
Some much wrong with this ^^ ... How old was Kovalchuk then ? Who on this list comes close to Hamilton ? oh brother

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Originally Posted by Perfect_Drug View Post
Oilers fan here, trying to go with a Neutral chime-in:

Return on the Kovalchuk Trade (Kovalchuk being worth more than Iginla):
Johnny Oduya
Niclas Bergfors
Patrice Cormier
1st Round pick

Return on the Kaberle Trade:
Joe Colborne
first-round pick



Those IMHO are the outlying contexts for a deadline trades.

Boston is likely looking at giving up Hamilton, a 1st, and an aforementioned prospect goalie as starting point.



I was wondering how anyone could come up with this, then noticed your user name, now I understand.

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02-08-2013, 02:20 PM
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Boychuk and Kelly have no trades clauses. But assuming Iginla walks at the end of the year I bet he gets traded at the deadline. Boston doesn't really have a need for JayBo not to mention his 6.8 mil cap hit for next year when we need to resign keys players like Rask or even Horton. I really like Iginla he would look great in Boston. I rather get a rental player with a contract that's up at the end of the year. If Iginla comes to Boston and takes a home town discount then great keep him next year and that makes Horton expendable.

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looool. Oh boy?! Where do I sign up????

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The Bruins can't fit Bouwmeester under the cap next year and he isn't really needed. Would love Iginla though.

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02-08-2013, 02:22 PM
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You all understand that Iggy is gonna be a UFA...Right? Mr. Chiarelli is not gonna give anything but a pick or a prospect...and it would only be for this year as the bruins are at the cap for next year...and they have to sign Horton and Rask. GO B'S Go!

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looool. Oh boy?! Where do I sign up????
This Griffith kid is pretty good ranked 8th in the Boston system. He had 40 goals and 85 points last year with the London Knights. You will be surprised.

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Oilers fan here, trying to go with a Neutral chime-in:

Return on the Kovalchuk Trade (Kovalchuk being worth more than Iginla):
Johnny Oduya
Niclas Bergfors
Patrice Cormier
1st Round pick

Return on the Kaberle Trade:
Joe Colborne
first-round pick



Those IMHO are the outlying contexts for a deadline trades.

Boston is likely looking at giving up Hamilton, a 1st, and an aforementioned prospect goalie as starting point.
You sure about that? HF named Hamilton the #3 prospect in ALL of NHL farm systems to start lockout season less than a month ago. Pretty lofty status.

I don't recall any of the names in the Kovy and Kaberle trade sniffing Top 5 NHL prospect status in seasons of their trade. Cormier? Bergfors? Colborne? Yeah right. Try again.

#1, Subban and young PRO Player (Caron, Knight, etc.) would be enough.

FYI - HF most recent NHL prospect rankings lists Subban as 3rd best Goalie prospect, behind only Jakob Markstrom & Braden Holtby.

Given Kiprusoff's age and no standout goalie prospectss, I fail to see why CAL wouldn't be all over acquiring Subban as centerpiece of an Iginla deal. Thanks to Rask and Svedberg ready for backup role next year, B's actually can easily part with Subban.

BTW, Alan Muir of SI has already begun Iginla-to-BOS chatter.

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Oilers fan here, trying to go with a Neutral chime-in:

Return on the Kovalchuk Trade (Kovalchuk being worth more than Iginla):
Johnny Oduya
Niclas Bergfors
Patrice Cormier
1st Round pick

Return on the Kaberle Trade:
Joe Colborne
first-round pick



Those IMHO are the outlying contexts for a deadline trades.

Boston is likely looking at giving up Hamilton, a 1st, and an aforementioned prospect goalie as starting point.
What the hell? The return for Kaberle was Colborne and a 1st... As in a decent, but not great, prospect and a low first rounder

And yet somehow you think two great prospects and a first will be ok for Iggy, a RENTAL?

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This Griffith kid is pretty good ranked 8th in the Boston system. He had 40 goals and 85 points last year with the London Knights. You will be surprised.
So the 8th best boston prospect and a second round pick for a first line player who is the face of our franchise, please take Sven with him I can't deal with us robbing you.

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You sure about that? HF named Hamilton the #3 prospect in ALL of NHL farm systems to start lockout season less than a month ago. Pretty lofty status.

I don't recall any of the names in the Kovy and Kaberle trade sniffing Top 5 NHL prospect status in seasons of their trade. Cormier? Bergfors? Colborne? Yeah right. Try again.

#1, Subban and young PRO Player (Caron, Knight, etc.) would be enough.

FYI - HF most recent NHL prospect rankings lists Subban as 3rd best Goalie prospect, behind only Jakob Markstrom & Braden Holtby.

Given Kiprusoff's age and no standout goalie prospectss, I fail to see why CAL wouldn't be all over acquiring Subban as centerpiece of an Iginla deal. Thanks to Rask and Svedberg ready for backup role next year, B's actually can easily part with Subban.

BTW, Alan Muir of SI has already begun Iginla-to-BOS chatter.
We have little to no interest in Subban and wouldn't value him nearly as high as boston would.

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So the 8th best boston prospect and a second round pick for a first line player who is the face of our franchise, please take Sven with him I can't deal with us robbing you.
You realize Griffith is TWO points away from having the scoring title in the OHL?

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Sounds good and we will just sign Iginla next year and not give up anything. We really don't need him. If you get more then a first round pick and a decent prospect ill be surprised.

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You realize Griffith is TWO points away from having the scoring title in the OHL?
You realize we had the whl scoring leader before he is now in the echl, stats aren't the whole story with a prospect.

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