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02-08-2013, 07:36 PM
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How was Nedved able to get around this rule? He played for Canada in the Olympics and then for Czech in the WC.
I can't find any backing, but it was probably a one-time waiver by the IIHF due to the fall of communism. There is plenty of confusion about things during that time with the defections and splitting of countries.

Nabokov was similiarly granted one, since although he was born in modern day Kazakhstan, his parents were native Russians, and he and them are Russian, not Kazakhstani. He appeared in one tournament for Kazakhstan before gaining the right to play for Russia.

IIHF would not be granting any special exemption to a player simply because he wanted to play at a higher level. Those are seemingly reserved for special cases like defections countries splitting. No way Kopitar, even if he got US Citizenship would ever play for USA.

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02-08-2013, 08:01 PM
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Wow great for them. They will be #2 on my list to root for.

But seriously, for them to qualify without Anze is a great achievement. They should be proud.

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Would be nice to see Slovenia take Belarus' role from the 2002 Olympics and go to the Semi-Finals. Slovenia must have a fairly strongish team without Anze Kopitar to be able to make it through the qualifiers. If I remember much from the 2008 World Championship, Slovenia was basically Anze Kopitar. So good on them for developing a stronger program.

So that means no matter what the LA Kings will have one players on an Olympic team for sure. However, I expect Quick and Brown to be on Team USA and Doughty to play for Canada again.
Are you forgetting Voynov?

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That is awesome!! Very good news!

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That's great! I couldn't understand a word he said on twitter but I knew he was excited.

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02-08-2013, 11:16 PM
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Awesome news!!! This also means I'm getting a Kopi Team Slovenia jersey.
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I am pretty confident that Anže Kopitar will be the one that will wave the flag in Sochi


This is great news - congrats to all the HF Slovenians!

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Need a Slovenia jersey. They will be my number 2 team.

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To those who want a Kopi Slovenia jersey, do you guys have a Doughty Canada jersey?

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02-09-2013, 12:32 AM
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Lets just hope he can come back playing better, get some passion from him .

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02-09-2013, 01:33 AM
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Lets just hope he can come back playing better, get some passion from him .

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To those who want a Kopi Slovenia jersey, do you guys have a Doughty Canada jersey?
No. Screw Canada.

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02-09-2013, 03:17 AM
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Oh yeah let's just pretend he is playing with passion. Got it. He isn'tiinjured from what it looks like cause he's been skating well at times. Turnovers and crap he looks unmotivated. He isn't out of shape he was playing during the off season. Unless there are more excuses. He looks unmotivated which sucks. Hopefully Sutter can light a fire under him.

On topic, I'm glad he's playing. Canada defense looks like a brick wall.


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Not in my wildest dreams did I believe they would win the group and qualify for Sochi...BUT THEY DIIIIIIIDDDD.......me so happy and..

I hope Mursak will be availabe because he was really getting his confidence back and I think he is alot better than people know. He plays a little bit like Clifford but he is much stronger on the boards and in the corners, his passing game is very good but he is knocked of the puck to easy on open ice. Stickhandling is okay and he is lightning quick on the blades. He is well worthy NHL.

Enough about him ..

Slovenija is going to play USA, Russia, Slovakia....can't believe it.

Lke Clifford= body contact to make turnovers, energetic.

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Haha, great achievement, congrats!

"Can´t wait" for all the Slovenia-Slovakia confussion that will bring though...

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I can't find any backing, but it was probably a one-time waiver by the IIHF due to the fall of communism. There is plenty of confusion about things during that time with the defections and splitting of countries.

Nabokov was similiarly granted one, since although he was born in modern day Kazakhstan, his parents were native Russians, and he and them are Russian, not Kazakhstani. He appeared in one tournament for Kazakhstan before gaining the right to play for Russia.

IIHF would not be granting any special exemption to a player simply because he wanted to play at a higher level. Those are seemingly reserved for special cases like defections countries splitting. No way Kopitar, even if he got US Citizenship would ever play for USA.
Not true. If Kopitar wanted to play for USA he could. Here is the rule that allow him to do it:

Change of national eligibility (The ‘four-year’ case)
A player, who has previously participated in IIHF competition, can switch national eligibility (but only once in a player's life) if:
-He is a citizen of the new country of his choice
-He has participated for at least four consecutive years in the national competitions of his new country, during which period he has neither transferred to another country nor played ice hockey within any other country and has not played for his previous country in an IIHF competition during this four year period.
-He has an international transfer card (ITC) that shows the transfer to the national competition of his new country and which was approved and dated at least four years before the start of the IIHF competition in which he wishes to participate.

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02-09-2013, 04:11 AM
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Not true. If Kopitar wanted to play for USA he could. Here is the rule that allow him to do it:

Change of national eligibility (The ‘four-year’ case)
A player, who has previously participated in IIHF competition, can switch national eligibility (but only once in a player's life) if:
-He is a citizen of the new country of his choice
-He has participated for at least four consecutive years in the national competitions of his new country, during which period he has neither transferred to another country nor played ice hockey within any other country and has not played for his previous country in an IIHF competition during this four year period.
-He has an international transfer card (ITC) that shows the transfer to the national competition of his new country and which was approved and dated at least four years before the start of the IIHF competition in which he wishes to participate.
Technically it would be possible of course. But does Kopitar have US citizenship? If not he doesn´t fulfill the No.1 condition right now.

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02-09-2013, 04:16 AM
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Technically it would be possible of course. But does Kopitar have US citizenship? If not he doesn´t fulfill the No.1 condition right now.
No and he also played in sweden this season so not possible. But technically it is possible to change national team.

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Not true. If Kopitar wanted to play for USA he could. Here is the rule that allow him to do it:

Change of national eligibility (The ‘four-year’ case)
A player, who has previously participated in IIHF competition, can switch national eligibility (but only once in a player's life) if:
-He is a citizen of the new country of his choice
-He has participated for at least four consecutive years in the national competitions of his new country, during which period he has neither transferred to another country nor played ice hockey within any other country and has not played for his previous country in an IIHF competition during this four year period.
-He has an international transfer card (ITC) that shows the transfer to the national competition of his new country and which was approved and dated at least four years before the start of the IIHF competition in which he wishes to participate.
The bolded part suggests the player can't play in any league that has teams in multiple countries, like the NHL.

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No and he also played in sweden this season so not possible. But technically it is possible to change national team.
He has played in the NHL only between 2008 and 2012 without playing elsewhere or playing for Slovenia, so I think it wuld count.

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The bolded part suggests the player can't play in any league that has teams in multiple countries, like the NHL.
It suggests, but it doesn´t work like that, there are way too many multinational leagues both in North America and in Europe for that to be explained that way.

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A nightmare group for American reporters

Russia
Slovakia
Slovenia

Since the most dominant alpine skier of today's, Tina Maze, was the flagbearer for Slovenia at the 2010 Winter Olympics, I am pretty confident that Anže Kopitar will be the one that will wave the flag in Sochi
It may be unlikely if NHL is still playing at the time the Olympics openng ceremony is held. In 2006 NHL played until February 12th while opening ceremony was in 10th. Men's hockey tournament started on 15th IIRC.

I am very happy that Slovenia made it to the Olympics. Denmark has six NHL players now against Slovenia's two, but no Dane is as good as Kopitar is.

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A nightmare group for American reporters

Russia
Slovakia
Slovenia

Since the most dominant alpine skier of today's, Tina Maze, was the flagbearer for Slovenia at the 2010 Winter Olympics, I am pretty confident that Anže Kopitar will be the one that will wave the flag in Sochi
The Slovenia / Slovakia thing is so confusing. One of the countries have to change name, imo.

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The Slovenia / Slovakia thing is so confusing. One of the countries have to change name, imo.
It won't happen. Some people will just have to learn geography.

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No. Screw Canada.
What's with the ?

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Can't wait to kick USA ass in Sochi .
Nice!! I've been waiting sooo long for some good old fashioned USA / Slovenia smack talk!

Bring - it - ON!

Wait a minute, who am I rooting for again?

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Has the NHL even made an official statement that they are going to let the NHL players go to Sochi. I know some prominent Russians have said they are going with or without permission.

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