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02-09-2013, 10:59 AM
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Naw, you are pretty much missing the point, but that's cool - you are blinded by the perceived magical ability of VAN goalies ability to fix-all. Plus, your argument has no logical flow - the Caps have "very good pieces on forward and defense to compete now" but they will not be improved by a high draft pick? Mind-blowing. Loser attitude? Naw, I was just being a realist. They have a rookie head coach who has lost his team. He's playing their best player with third liners. They have no real scoring threat, outside Ovi, who is working hard but slumping right now. They need to win something like over 67% of their remaining games to just make the playoffs as a bottom seed. Does that seem likely? So, you think MGMT should pay some nutty-high price for Lu or Schneider this year so they can MAYBE have a chance at making the playoffs this year? Sometimes you have to take a loss, and start planning for next year. That doesn't mean you Fail for Nail or whatever clever rhyme HF has made up for MacKinnon or Jones, but, as MGMT, you don't throw good money after bad.
I said this earlier and I will say it again. The caps problems are all goalie related. I don't think they will trade for Lui, but there is no question a solid number one would turn this team around. The game against the pens the other night was a prime example. Up 1-0 after one and playing well, hell through 30 mins they were looking great limited the pens to a handful of chances. Then in something like two minutes they let in two soft goals and the flood gates open. Team hangs its head. It is a team that has no confidence in their goalies.

If I was them, I would be all over any number one goalie that becomes available.

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02-09-2013, 11:02 AM
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I just answered. Just thanks for assuming it was made up just because it's something you don't want to hear.

Luongo has little to no value.
It was made up. You said "no team wants that contract". Not Kypreos says "no team wants that contract".

You can't really prove that not a single NHL wants that contract.

It was an asinine, untrue statement and you got called out on it. Just a heads up, people are going to call you on your BS in this thread so it's best to just be honest and not pull things out of your ass. This will save all of us time and effort. Thanks.

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02-09-2013, 11:04 AM
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LOL@ Leaf homers.

Have you heard them talk about the Leafs?

Do you guys just assume anyone working for a media outlet in Toronto is a Leaf homer?
It's quite funny really.

Everyone outside of Toronto thinks that Simmons, Damien Cox, anyone who works for TSN and Sportsnet are Leaf homers.

They have zero clue.

The only guy that I'd call a Leaf homer is probably Seigel but even then he just covers the team on game days, rosters, injuries etc.

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02-09-2013, 11:09 AM
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Canuck fans need to familiarize themselves with "The Art of Selling aka Selling 101" and the dont's:

- Don't appear too anxious to sell as it suggests that you are desperate, have limited number of buyers and thus puts you at the disadvantage of selling well below your asking price

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02-09-2013, 11:11 AM
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Maclean and Kypreos said that during a recent Leaf game in an intermission on Sportsnet.
Find the quote where they say no team wants that contract. Not that they are reliable sources, but it would make them look even more incompetent.

Do you think Vancouver has a problem with having Luongo? Do you understand why they are even entertaining trading him? ( hint it isn't his contract)

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02-09-2013, 11:14 AM
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To an outsider like me it seems like Cox and Simmons have been forced to cover the Leafs against their will, Simmons especially seems to enjoy Leafs toiling in the basement.

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02-09-2013, 11:16 AM
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Canuck fans need to familiarize themselves with "The Art of Selling aka Selling 101" and the dont's:

- Don't appear too anxious to sell as it suggests that you are desperate, have limited number of buyers and thus puts you at the disadvantage of selling well below your asking price
I think fans are falling victim to what the Eastern media has been spewing. During the lockout Vancouver fans were willing to take much less. Now not so much..what changed?

Watching Luongo play you can tell he is an elite talent still. He has gotten points in every game he's played, some of those games the team had no business being in. Don't think you will see fans "too anxious" to throw him away now. There's also several fans that think trading Schneider is the right thing to do now.

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02-09-2013, 11:22 AM
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To an outsider like me it seems like Cox and Simmons have been forced to cover the Leafs against their will, Simmons especially seems to enjoy Leafs toiling in the basement.
he deserves to lose his job

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02-09-2013, 11:26 AM
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LOL@ Leaf homers.

Have you heard them talk about the Leafs?

Do you guys just assume anyone working for a media outlet in Toronto is a Leaf homer?
What do you figure an elite goalie like Luongo would get as a free agent?

Vancouver, a Cup contender, has no issue with that contract.

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02-09-2013, 11:34 AM
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Canuck fans need to familiarize themselves with "The Art of Selling aka Selling 101" and the dont's:

- Don't appear too anxious to sell as it suggests that you are desperate, have limited number of buyers and thus puts you at the disadvantage of selling well below your asking price
I was unaware that anyone that posted on this board had the authority to trade Roberto.

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LOL@ Leaf homers.

Have you heard them talk about the Leafs?

Do you guys just assume anyone working for a media outlet in Toronto is a Leaf homer?
Hint: they talk that way about the Leafs because the team is a train wreck and has been the single most inept franchise since the 04-05 lockout. To try to convince the viewing audience of anything else would be akin to proclaiming up is down and black is white. The analysts in Toronto aren't legitimately insane - doesn't make them any more credible when it comes to disseminating rumours however.

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02-09-2013, 11:43 AM
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Hint: they talk that way about the Leafs because the team is a train wreck and has been the single most inept franchise since the 04-05 lockout. To try to convince the viewing audience of anything else would be akin to proclaiming up is down and black is white. The analysts in Toronto aren't legitimately insane - doesn't make them any more credible when it comes to disseminating rumours however.
But the argument is that they are Leaf homers. How exactly? You're saying you agree with me they are not?

And BTW, when the Leafs were a yearly 100 point contender under Quinn, the media was still crapping on them a hell of a lot.

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02-09-2013, 11:45 AM
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What do you figure an elite goalie like Luongo would get as a free agent?

Vancouver, a Cup contender, has no issue with that contract.
His cap hit is low in exchange for a "Retirement" contract. Teams have an issue wityh the length. No one is knocking the cap hit.

And Vancouver is trying to trade Luongo, so I wouldn't say there's no issue.

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02-09-2013, 11:47 AM
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Find the quote where they say no team wants that contract. Not that they are reliable sources, but it would make them look even more incompetent.

Do you think Vancouver has a problem with having Luongo? Do you understand why they are even entertaining trading him? ( hint it isn't his contract)
It was on tv. Others mentioned seeing it on the Leaf board.Kypreos said George Mcphee has no interest in Luongo due to the contract length.

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02-09-2013, 11:50 AM
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It was on tv. Others mentioned seeing it on the Leaf board.Kypreos said George Mcphee has no interest in Luongo due to the contract length.
Kypreos also said that Luongo's contract was the worst in the NHL (maybe all-time, I don't remember exactly) and that it was unmovable.

Someone's still bitter about a snubbed interview.

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Kypreos also said that Luongo's contract was the worst in the NHL (maybe all-time, I don't remember exactly) and that it was unmovable.

Someone's still bitter about a snubbed interview.
Well most said that about Bryan McCabe's deal.

And let's not say it is "Moveable" until he's actually traded.

It really is a bad contract.

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02-09-2013, 11:56 AM
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It was on tv. Others mentioned seeing it on the Leaf board.Kypreos said George Mcphee has no interest in Luongo due to the contract length.
Does Mcphee run EVERY team in the NHL?

Also something you don't seem to understand is why Vancouver is trading him. Gillis signed him to that contract, which saves him 2 million per season of caphit, so surely he has no problem with keeping him.

The intention was always to trade Schneider until management noticed a change in his game. At this moment, both goalies are at about the same level. Only makes sense to try and keep the younger asset. Luongo hasn't suddenly become junk overnight....

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Kypreos also said that Luongo's contract was the worst in the NHL (maybe all-time, I don't remember exactly) and that it was unmovable.

Someone's still bitter about a snubbed interview.
What's the story behind the snubbed interview?

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Does Mcphee run EVERY team in the NHL?

Also something you don't seem to understand is why Vancouver is trading him. Gillis signed him to that contract, which saves him 2 million per season of caphit, so surely he has no problem with keeping him.
People fail to realize that a 5.33 million cap hit goalie is out performing goalies making 5.5, 6,7+ Million

http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/20...n-the-lockouts

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What's the story behind the snubbed interview?
I think it was something like during the cup finals Luongo was doing an interview with ESPN, then when he was done Kypreos asked to do one too but Luongo declined.

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02-09-2013, 01:02 PM
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Umm desperate to move him yet willing to wait until the offseason... Ummm

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Well most said that about Bryan McCabe's deal.

And let's not say it is "Moveable" until he's actually traded.

It really is a bad contract.
So if the price was lowered to a second no team would jump on that?

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would Laich, Johannson, Neuvirth for Louongo work?

Gives Vancouver some F depth and WSH can stop the Goalie merry go round...........then move Holtby for a young Forward , likely to TO
switch Laich with Carlson and you've got a deal

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switch Laich with Carlson and you've got a deal
There is no way capitals move Carlson, also the Canucks are already stacked at defence and don't have space.

Johannson/Brouwer
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02-09-2013, 01:59 PM
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There is no way capitals move Carlson, also the Canucks are already stacked at defence and don't have space.

Johannson/Brouwer
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Please tell me why the Canucks do that.

Think about it for a second. Downgrading from an all-star goalie to a young guy who hasn't done well lately, and either downgrading from Higgins to Johansson (who was a healthy scratch recently and hasn't played well this year) or trading Higgins for a very overpaid Brouwer (who the Canucks cant afford next season).
And you want to do it so we can get a 2nd round pick and a "prospect" who likely wont be anything good.

Keep Luongo this season, our depth is very good once Kesler and Booth come back.

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What do you figure an elite goalie like Luongo would get as a free agent?

Vancouver, a Cup contender, has no issue with that contract.
Anything over 5 years would be bad if he was a FA

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