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Patrick Marleau Future HHOF?

View Poll Results: Patrick Marleau Future HHOF?
Yes 9 6.00%
No 100 66.67%
Possibly, but not first ballot 26 17.33%
Too early to tell 15 10.00%
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02-08-2013, 01:28 AM
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How can a player who as never been top-10 in points and has two top-10 finishes (4th and 6th) be considered to the hall?

Marleau brings offense, that is his main job. He has never been one of the leagues top forwards. He has never been threat for any award. I don't care if he wins a cup, he should never get in to the hall.

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02-08-2013, 05:11 AM
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02-08-2013, 05:54 AM
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I think he has a very slight chance, if he does infact get to 500 goals and 1000 points. Like a 2% chance.

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02-08-2013, 10:21 AM
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I think he is in the same tier with Kovalev, Naslund, Amonte, Elias. So it seems very unlikely he will get there.

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02-08-2013, 11:26 AM
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I think he is in the same tier with Kovalev, Naslund, Amonte, Elias. So it seems very unlikely he will get there.
Except Kovalev, Elias and Naslund were all better.

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02-08-2013, 11:31 AM
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02-08-2013, 11:38 AM
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I'd say no. Marleau needs more hardware to get to the HHOF.
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What trophies did Mats Sundin win? How about Brad Park?
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Are you saying Marleau was as good as Sundin?
Does it look like he's saying that?

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02-08-2013, 11:41 AM
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The answer to the op is highly unlikely.

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I am not sure if he will get in or not. Im thinking no and hoping no. Hall of good is the place for him. I mean people are on fence with Kariya. No way Marleau should go in if Kariya is a borderline.
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How can a player who as never been top-10 in points and has two top-10 finishes (4th and 6th) be considered to the hall?

Marleau brings offense, that is his main job. He has never been one of the leagues top forwards. He has never been threat for any award. I don't care if he wins a cup, he should never get in to the hall.
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Except Kovalev, Elias and Naslund were all better.
Your dislike for a player that is almost impossible to hate is amusing.

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02-08-2013, 02:19 PM
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Your dislike for a player that is almost impossible to hate is amusing.
I'd wager a guess that he just dislikes when players are overrated in a historical context.

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02-08-2013, 02:24 PM
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Needs to win some hardware before even being considered

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02-08-2013, 02:31 PM
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mike gartner written all over him

...which is to say he should NOT be considered for the HHOF of course

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02-09-2013, 01:44 AM
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The answer to the op is highly unlikely.





Your dislike for a player that is almost impossible to hate is amusing.
I came off as an *******, did not mean to. Sorry.

But for the subject in hand, if looking things without bias, Marleau has zero things going on for him.

No peak, no cup, no award, no prime, no AS selections. He is just a guy who was good for a long time, never great.

The more i think about it the more i feel like he should never be in the hall.

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02-09-2013, 01:45 AM
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I'd wager a guess that he just dislikes when players are overrated in a historical context.
Probably this.

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02-09-2013, 01:47 AM
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If he wins the Cup and gets hot at the right time and wins the Smythe, he would easily be in the HOF first ballot, it's unlikely but possible.

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02-09-2013, 09:58 AM
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I came off as an *******, did not mean to. Sorry.

But for the subject in hand, if looking things without bias, Marleau has zero things going on for him.

No peak, no cup, no award, no prime, no AS selections. He is just a guy who was good for a long time, never great.

The more i think about it the more i feel like he should never be in the hall.
You don't have to win an award to have been a great player. Like someone else said, Mats Sundin, Park, how many did they win?

Counting the postseason, Marleau has scored 449 goals. He has been nominated for awards and has been in multiple all star games. He was the youngest player to ever play his 1,000th game, even with missing a season due to the lockout, and he is only 33 showing no signs of regressing.

Also, how has he not had a peak or prime?

I understand saying he isn't a hhofer, but saying he was only good and comparing him to Mike Gartner proves people here don't watch him on a regular basis and that they don't know what they're talking about.

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02-09-2013, 06:09 PM
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Are points the only thing that matters in being great?

Marleau is one of the top goal scorers of the generation. He is essentially similar to Sundin, but it took a little longer for Marleau to come into his own.

I doubt he will make it, but his goal scoring should be more important than his PPG.

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02-09-2013, 06:55 PM
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If he wins the Cup and gets hot at the right time and wins the Smythe, he would easily be in the HOF first ballot, it's unlikely but possible.
A cup and a smythe alone can't salvage his career into a hall of fame career.

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A cup and a smythe alone can't salvage his career into a hall of fame career.
To add to this, Brad Richards has a Cup and a Smythe, is he a HHOFer? His regular season peak was also better than Marleau's

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02-09-2013, 07:42 PM
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0% chance he ever gets in. Just not good enough.

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I agree with this ! The HHOF should be for the best of the best players. He is a fine player but as of now not a HOF player in my view.

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The answer to the op is highly unlikely.





Your dislike for a player that is almost impossible to hate is amusing.
I don't dislike marleau and I agree with all those points.

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You don't have to win an award to have been a great player. Like someone else said, Mats Sundin, Park, how many did they win?

Counting the postseason, Marleau has scored 449 goals. He has been nominated for awards and has been in multiple all star games. He was the youngest player to ever play his 1,000th game, even with missing a season due to the lockout, and he is only 33 showing no signs of regressing.

Also, how has he not had a peak or prime?

I understand saying he isn't a hhofer, but saying he was only good and comparing him to Mike Gartner proves people here don't watch him on a regular basis and that they don't know what they're talking about.
Gartner was a good player for a long time, but never really a great player.

Marleau is pretty similar in that.

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Gartner was a good player for a long time, but never really a great player.

Marleau is pretty similar in that.
Gartner was not the player in his own end that Marleau is.

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You don't have to win an award to have been a great player. Like someone else said, Mats Sundin, Park, how many did they win?

Counting the postseason, Marleau has scored 449 goals. He has been nominated for awards and has been in multiple all star games. He was the youngest player to ever play his 1,000th game, even with missing a season due to the lockout, and he is only 33 showing no signs of regressing.

Also, how has he not had a peak or prime?

I understand saying he isn't a hhofer, but saying he was only good and comparing him to Mike Gartner proves people here don't watch him on a regular basis and that they don't know what they're talking about.
I would never compare Marleau to Gartner. Mike was much better than Marleau.

Now i am jut pissing at you cause you are starting to irk me.

If someone ask's that does Marleau belong to the Hall of Fame and i give an opinion that he does not and show the reasoning, how am i taking a piss at Marleau?

The dude literally maxed out as a PPG forward. All-Star games mean nothing, All-Star selections mean a lot. Marleau has none.

I get that Hardware is not the most important thing but when player has ONLY 2 top-10 goal finishes and nothing else to show for, it is bound to come up in a discussion about HOF worthiness.

Of course he has peak in a sense that every player peaks. I meant that the level he peaked in was never considered the leagues top-5 which is important when thinking about HOF credentials.

There is nothing wrong with Marleau falling short of the Hall. He never was a player projected to be there and he has had a very impressive career.There is also nothing wrong saying Marleau does not belong in the Hall.

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