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12-15-2003, 05:05 PM
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Nolan trade revisited RE: McCauley new Sharks Captain!!

It's lookin like both teams are makin out well in this trade. McCauley was just named the new captain of the Sharks http://www.sjsharks.com/sharks/news/...1071533484.htm . I must say that I've been impressed by him. Thanks for a great deal (thought I'd never say that since Nolan is my all-time favorite player)

edit: lemme point out that its only on a trial basis right now...but to give that honor to someone so new to the team says alot about his character.

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He's one of the great team players in hockey.

He served as assistant in Toronto for awhile.

Alyn's wicked.

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Good for Alyn. He deserves it because he seems like a great guy. I loved him in Toronto, and I admit I got a bit misty-eyed watching him being interviewed after the trade.

But I don't regret this trade at all. To get something good, you've got to give up something good. Nolan is a very special player.

Every good team trades away good players once in a while. It has to happen. Like when Colorado traded Robyn Regehr for a 30 games of Theo Fleury.

Or even look at how we got McCauley. New Jersey traded McCauley, Smith and Sullivan for a season and a half of Doug Gilmour.

Every good team makes these kinds of trades.

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I say the Sharks won the deal (and they switch Captains every month).

In the short term its almost even, but hte Leafs get the edge, in the future the Sharks won hands down. Sure Nolan has played great for the Leafs at times, but he only plays well when his back and/or hips are bothering him. When they are he either just can't play or plays like a 3rd/4th liner. If Nolan didn't have the injury problems the Leafs would have stolen him, but those injury problems really hurt his value and I think the Leafs over paid for him (Boyes AND their first round pick was too much). Plus the Sharks are going to have the services of McCauly and Boyes a lot longer then the Leafs will have Nolan.

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Great to see McCauley's success in San Jose. He was one of my favourite Leafs.

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Had he not suffered those serious injuries his first full season he might have been one of the better scoring second liners in the game.

Good to see he's overcome those problems.

Right now there really wouldn't be a good spot for him on the team anyway, so one of those win-win trades.

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quinn was willing to trade mccauley and boyle because theyre soft

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Originally Posted by go pierre hedin
He's one of the great team players in hockey.

He served as assistant in Toronto for awhile.

Alyn's wicked.
I couldn't have said it any better!!!

GOOD FOR MCCAULEY! I hope he does really well... boyes too.

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The Leafs have already replaced McCauley

with Matt Stajan.

Very similar players in that they were already very responsible defensively at a young age and both are very intelligent and coachable.
Stajan may even have a higher offensive upside.

Sometimes you have to look at who is given a chance to play after a trade is made to see the full impact.

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quinn was willing to trade mccauley and boyle because theyre soft
I would say Quinn was willing to trade them because HE is soft. Unless we make a big run and Nolan is a factor, this trade will haunt us for years. It already cost us in the free agent sweepstakes because of the foolish contract he has.Nolan is good in spurts but is a powerforward with way too many miles.

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quinn was willing to trade mccauley and boyle because theyre soft

Who's "Boyle"?

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Who's "Boyle"?
Nolan and the boyle on his behind maybe? A packaged deal?





edited for adult content....changed a word to behind

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I would say Quinn was willing to trade them because HE is soft. Unless we make a big run and Nolan is a factor, this trade will haunt us for years. It already cost us in the free agent sweepstakes because of the foolish contract he has.Nolan is good in spurts but is a powerforward with way too many miles.
McCauley's upside isn't Elite NHL player.

It was a gamble that has yet to pay off for the Leafs, and McCauley isn't dominating anywhere.

Let's get one thing straight, McCauley is a very nice player. <--- that's a period.

It is like chosing between Pavel Brendl and Chris Vernarsky in the draft, you don't know what either will turn out to be, but you know one's upside is huge and the others is likely where it will always be. Vernarsky might turn into a decent grub-club player, but big deal, there are lots of those. Brendl could have been a top end talent, but it didn't translate into the pros, whether it was attitude, speed, makeup, or just one who never got it.

Even saying that, some people would still chose Vernie, hoping to hit some singles, and you need those guys, but others will go for the fence, and you know there are more pop-outs than homers.

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McCauley's upside isn't Elite NHL player.

It was a gamble that has yet to pay off for the Leafs, and McCauley isn't dominating anywhere.

Let's get one thing straight, McCauley is a very nice player. <--- that's a period.

It is like chosing between Pavel Brendl and Chris Vernarsky in the draft, you don't know what either will turn out to be, but you know one's upside is huge and the others is likely where it will always be. Vernarsky might turn into a decent grub-club player, but big deal, there are lots of those. Brendl could have been a top end talent, but it didn't translate into the pros, whether it was attitude, speed, makeup, or just one who never got it.

Even saying that, some people would still chose Vernie, hoping to hit some singles, and you need those guys, but others will go for the fence, and you know there are more pop-outs than homers.
Excellent comparison, Ulf.

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The team that gets the best player wins the deal.

We won the deal, period.

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The team that gets the best player wins the deal.

We won the deal, period.
Until we see what Boyes and the first rounder will do, its all speculation.
Owen is playing great now thought, I hope he can keep it up into the playoffs!

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