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02-09-2013, 08:19 PM
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Didn't take long for two teams to make a mockery of the CBA agreement
A trade was conducted between two clubs involving a valid SPC and a conditional draft pick.
Get over it.


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Nabokov.
Also Scott Niedermeyer IIRC

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Nabokov.
Fair enough, although the Nabokov thing was a very different, unique situation. He didn't sign the contract with the Islanders. Technically, in the legal sense, that doesn't matter. But it changes things when looking at it.

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Also Scott Niedermeyer IIRC
I should've been more clear. Talking about being suspended for the whole season, which Thomas will end up being.

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non-issue. Thomas isn't being paid & wanted out of Boston, the Bruins needed cap space & the Islanders needed cap floor adjustment. Win-win for all sides involved.

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Daly has made it clear that they cannot toll his contract indefinitely if he doesn't return. I don't know what gave TSN the idea that NYI could toll a retired player's contract into his late 40s.
Then what defines a retired player in this case? Let's say Thomas just refuses to comeback, but also doesn' sign retirement papers, then what?

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To all of those saying that teams would take advantage of this, why would players go along with it? They would have to decide to stop playing, without pay, and not retire. Where's the incentive? For someone like Pronger, there's the incentive to not retire because he's still getting paid, at least. But for Thomas, outside of his own lunacy (or whatever), he has no incentive to not play.

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Then what defines a retired player in this case? Let's say Thomas just refuses to comeback, but also doesn' sign retirement papers, then what?
Daily has said if that's the case the cap hit will no longer apply. The one year cap penalty has already been used. Even if the contract is tolled there will no longer be a cap hit associated with it until such a point where Thomas plays again. In that year my assumption would be that his actual salary will be the cap hit.

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Daily has said if that's the case the cap hit will no longer apply. The one year cap penalty has already been used. Even if the contract is tolled there will no longer be a cap hit associated with it until such a point where Thomas plays again. In that year my assumption would be that his actual salary will be the cap hit.
And note that the League has the power to interpret the CBA and establish policies as it sees fit, unless a grievance is field by the NHLPA - which obviously has no incentive to do so in this case.

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non-issue. Thomas isn't being paid & wanted out of Boston, the Bruins needed cap space & the Islanders needed cap floor adjustment. Win-win for all sides involved.
except the side of the fans who root for the team that's not fielding a roster of actual players with salaries up to the league minimum.

Charles Wang's chicanery needs to end. This team can't move to Brooklyn and get purchased by the Nets ownership group (hopefully) soon enough.

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