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02-09-2013, 03:02 PM
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Craig71.

Bergevin will not trade his captain.
Plus, DD will not be traded if a Quebec player is not coming back.
Colby Armstrong has been signed because Therrien wanted him. He wont be moved.

Only players that could be move this year are : Eller, Weber, Kaberle.
Eller could be moved but they would need to get some talent in return. He has been doing everything that Therrien has asked of him and that is more than can be said for some.

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02-09-2013, 04:04 PM
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If there is a shift in philosophy with the habs moving forward, I can definitely see some of the small players on the move.
1. David Desharnais--Put Eller between Cole and Pacioretty and send DD to some team willing to give up a rugged defenseman that will crush Steve Ott when he sits on our backup goalie.
2. Brian Gionta, too small, too old and his arms are worn out from that useless slapshot that he always takes. I don't know the return, maybe a younger bigger player that takes useless shots at the goalie.
3. Colby Armstrong-- That nose is not made for the spot light of montreal.
4. A good backup goalie that is not from switzerland.
I think eventually MB will move to have a bigger team, however I don't think it will be that short term. I think DD and Gionta will be here till the end of next year. Depending on the development of LeBlanc Gallagher Galchenyuk and Kristo they may let Gio go back to the US as a FA. DD the only place he will go is maybe less ice time, with Glachenyuk gradually getting more and tougher minutes.

I don't see Armstrong going anywhere this year, he's been a solid 4th liner, used on the Pk. May not be back next year but going nowhere this year.

Budaj is a good back up if you look at him objectively instead of just looking at stats for 2 games. Both of which were his 2 "preseason games" and had extenuating circumstances(2 deflected goals and brutal defense vs Ottawa, White and a pile of other penalities plus getting shoved in the net on the 4th goal).

If we see a trade or trades I see it on defense...Kaberle, Weber plus possibly a big stay at home(#4-5-6) coming in.

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02-09-2013, 04:09 PM
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Eller could be moved but they would need to get some talent in return. He has been doing everything that Therrien has asked of him and that is more than can be said for some.
I don't see Eller moving this year unless we get a big time player back. Basically would be part of a package like for O'reilly(though MB may not want to because of waht he wants in a contract).

I see Eller being traded the same way Schenn and JVR were, two young players needing a new start. People brough up MPS but he has less value than Eller, his career has gone sideways the last 2 years. From 15-19-34 in 80 NHL games(2010-11) to 4-16-20 in 38 AHL games and 0-0-0 in 8 NHL games this year. Weber-MPS makes more sense.

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02-09-2013, 04:13 PM
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It may be stupid but we all know it's the truth
No.

French Canadian players get dropped all the time.

Lapierre, Pouliot, Latendresse, Begin, Bergeron, Dandeneault, say hello.

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02-09-2013, 04:31 PM
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No.

French Canadian players get dropped all the time.

Lapierre, Pouliot, Latendresse, Begin, Bergeron, Dandeneault, say hello.
Can't compare different management.

There will be a lot of pissy people on this forum as it's a reality which they refuse to understand.

From the owner to the GM, they've all stated in multiple occasions that one of their focus is the up the number of local products on the team. They've added scouting in the Q and don't be shocked the day that they pull the trigger to repatriate a local player.

At that time, HF Boards will explode with #FireBergevin... that's my prediction.

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02-09-2013, 08:17 PM
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So do you guys think there is any GM in the league that'd be dumb enough to give us something of value for Cole?

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So do you guys think there is any GM in the league that'd be dumb enough to give us something of value for Cole?
Who were the sharp posters who said we should trade Cole last year?

Who disagreed?

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02-09-2013, 08:33 PM
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So do you guys think there is any GM in the league that'd be dumb enough to give us something of value for Cole?
I doubt MB is dumb enough to trade him, so we won't find out.

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Who were the sharp posters who said we should trade Cole last year?

Who disagreed?
I said trade Cole about 5-6 times and was insulted everytime.

We could have get a good prospect and a pick at the deadline but we didn't budge.

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02-09-2013, 09:44 PM
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I said trade Cole about 5-6 times and was insulted everytime.

We could have get a good prospect and a pick at the deadline but we didn't budge.
You are obviously a wise poster who goes against the herd of sheep, I will pay more attention to your posts from now on.

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You are obviously a wise poster who goes against the herd of sheep, I will pay more attention to your posts from now on.
I don't think it took a genius to propose to trade a 34 year old player, playing the season of his life in a useless season.

We should have traded him when he had good value.

People were like no he is going to be great for us the last 3 years of his contract. It's a bit too soon to judge but looks like he is retired to me.

Funny thing the penguins would probably ask for him he would look good with Malkin and Neal. Maybe we could pry out Maata, Pouliot or Morrow if we add.

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We should trade for Matt Kassian he would cost us nothing and could be putted as an enforcer just in case, he is a decent fighter if you put a Kassian White Prust line i doubt anyone would **** with the habs anymore.

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Cole for wsh 1st. Come on Bergevin. Do it!

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Where is Bergevin now days?

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I always go back to Gionta for Nick Folingo. Jackets get offense and Habs get a guy that can play on the first two lines but who's also gritty.

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02-10-2013, 08:30 AM
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We should trade for Matt Kassian he would cost us nothing and could be putted as an enforcer just in case, he is a decent fighter if you put a Kassian White Prust line i doubt anyone would **** with the habs anymore.
When we play bigger teams, White can take Armstrong's spot and Kassian can take Desharnais, or Cole's spot.

Sick of these soft *****es.

Kassian can skate worth ****, but if he does his job I'll take him.

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02-10-2013, 08:44 AM
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How about Bissonnette or Clifford? On the back end, maybe a Justin Falk?

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02-10-2013, 09:02 AM
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As far as I can tell, the Habs have a full 23 man roster. If they claim a player (let's call him Nick Petrecki) off waivers, do they have to already have made room on the roster? If they have a window to waive or trade a player (let's call him Yannick Weber) while carrying 24 players after the claim, how long is it?

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02-10-2013, 09:06 AM
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As far as I can tell, the Habs have a full 23 man roster. If they claim a player (let's call him Nick Petrecki) off waivers, do they have to already have made room on the roster? If they have a window to waive or trade a player (let's call him Yannick Weber) while carrying 24 players after the claim, how long is it?
I think we'd have to make room before hand. However, if we claim (let's say Nick Petrecki) he'd have to stay on the habs, or else he'd more than likely go back to his previous team.

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02-10-2013, 10:12 AM
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Trade Plekanec, Markov, Cole, Desharnais and Gionta for goons. Or maybe keep Markov around since he's familiar with Vityaz Chekov already, we can be their North American version.

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Trade Plekanec, Markov, Cole, Desharnais and Gionta for goons. Or maybe keep Markov around since he's familiar with Vityaz Chekov already, we can be their North American version.
I understand your frustration for poeple demanding a goon or 2 but one would be nice.

One thing is for sure, we could have used a fight wen it was 2-0 but unlike the habs in past games, the leaf stayed disapline. Prust tried but no go until it's 5-0.
Moen could have gotten his nose dirty last night by chalenging one of there rookies wen it was 2-0, like Buffalo did with Gallagher. Prust steped in. If Moen chalenges Kadri for exemple, Orr comes in to defend.

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I like tough guy and I want a heavyweight but some topÓc in the trade board are

Emelin and Prust for Kassian, Falk and a 4th

What a ****ing stupid trade.

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Man the more I see of the Habs centres the more I hope the Habs find a way to trade for O'Rielly. He's a face-off specialist, very very strong defensively and can put up some points. A Patrice Bergeron-type player. I'm not sure what his upside is offensively - probably like Pleks 60-70 pts, but it is everything else he brings to the game. Habs need a player like him.

Pleks, O'Rielly, Galchenyuk is a very solid top 3 with better size and skill. DD can either move to the wing, or back to the 4th line. We don't have any quality centres coming up.

I really don't expect it to happen, but ROR is an organizational need.

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How about Bissonnette or Clifford? On the back end, maybe a Justin Falk?
Bissonnette yes. Clifford no.Guy suck since is ko loss to Reaves. Falk suck too.

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Man the more I see of the Habs centres the more I hope the Habs find a way to trade for O'Rielly. He's a face-off specialist, very very strong defensively and can put up some points. A Patrice Bergeron-type player. I'm not sure what his upside is offensively - probably like Pleks 60-70 pts, but it is everything else he brings to the game. Habs need a player like him.

Pleks, O'Rielly, Galchenyuk is a very solid top 3 with better size and skill. DD can either move to the wing, or back to the 4th line. We don't have any quality centres coming up.

I really don't expect it to happen, but ROR is an organizational need.
Avs desperately need defense. Something like Eller and a defender might get it done - but not Weber or Kaberle. I'm not sure it's a good idea to take one step back somewhere else just for ROR. I don't think ROR will be nearly as good as Bergeron, or even Plekanec offensively, but he probably would be more valuable to use than Eller.

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