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02-07-2013, 01:12 PM
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Why is everyone assuming the top line will get broken up?
It's needed and they were broken up this morning during the flow drills.

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02-07-2013, 02:00 PM
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They have been more effective thus far than McD - Girardi IMO. It's a luxury that we have 2 pairings that can be our top 2, so give the minutes to the pairing that's playing the best.

Thus far, I think that pairing has been Staal - MDZ. If that pairing falls off or if McD - Girardi otherwise play better than Staal - MDZ, then they get the top 2 minutes.

Don't see why that's controversial.
I was just asking a question? Does that make it controversial? I happen to disagree because I will take McD and Girardi as the top shut down pair every day of the week (when Girardi is healthy which it appears he hasn't been this early season). MDZ better play with more energy than he did Tuesday or Stralman will be paired with Staal and Micheal will find himself with Matt Gilroy.

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02-07-2013, 02:04 PM
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All indications are that Brian Boyle will be a healthy scratch tonight. Boyle haters rejoice!

And when you're done doing that, tell me out of Richards, Stepan, and Miller you want lining up opposite of Tavares.
Halpern will do fine. Let's just say that i'm glad it isn't Boyle. Tavares has dominated us the last two years lining up against the Pitch Back.

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02-07-2013, 02:05 PM
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When everyone's back (Sunday)

Hagelin - Richards - Gaborik ... (Hags is going now, reunite that line, put Gabs on the RW)
Pyatt - Stepan - Nash ... (a lot of size here, maybe not enough speed but good net presence)
Kreider - Miller - Cally ... (try it, sounds great - ease Cally in)
Boyle - Halpern - Powe ... (thats a good 4th line and it puts Boyle on the wall)

McDonagh - Girardi
Stall - Del Zotto
Stralman - Eminger

Scratched - Asham (does nothing), Bickel (bad), Gilroy (have no clue why Eminger isnt in instead of him)

Lundqvist (needs games to get into it)
Exactly the same for me, except I'll stick with Gilroy for now.

He's been very good I think. Now it might just be a flash in the pan which we've seen before from Gilroy, but let's ride the hot hand for now.

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02-07-2013, 02:08 PM
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Similar to my lines except i have Pyatt and Kreider switched. WOuldnt mind it your way either.

Only thing I take issue with is Gilroy on the third pair. Would rather have Eminger there. Dumbfounded why he isnt getting a real chance (3-4 games straight to prove hes better than Gilroy or Bickel)

BTW, where's McIlrath? Shouldn't he be in that spot by now ?
I totally agree that it should be Eminger in the lineup over Gilroy, but something has happened and Torts just wont let the guy play. Everybody is clamoring for a #6 who can play ~12 mins a night, well, we have one. Its just that Torts doesnt play him anymore. He did it last year for us and other years on other teams.

Edit: However, as Machinehead said, Gilroy has not played bad at all with the time hes been given. I guess we will see tonight when they are both in the lineup. haha

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02-07-2013, 02:18 PM
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Halpern will do fine. Let's just say that i'm glad it isn't Boyle. Tavares has dominated us the last two years lining up against the Pitch Back.
In the past two seasons Boyle has been on the ice for 3 of Taveras' points (including PP). Over the same span, Taveras has been on the ice for 3 of Boyle's points.

Is it possible it wasn't as dominant as you're remembering?

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02-07-2013, 02:21 PM
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I totally agree that it should be Eminger in the lineup over Gilroy, but something has happened and Torts just wont let the guy play. Everybody is clamoring for a #6 who can play ~12 mins a night, well, we have one. Its just that Torts doesnt play him anymore. He did it last year for us and other years on other teams.

Edit: However, as Machinehead said, Gilroy has not played bad at all with the time hes been given. I guess we will see tonight when they are both in the lineup. haha
Sometimes D-men shine with Torts, ala Stralman, because he teaches them to keep there game simple. Gilory, hopefully will be one of these guys. Only time will tell, but i don't see a problem with leaving him in until he plays himself out of the lineup. Eminger is a good guy to have as a #7 and with him re-signing with us, i don't think he has a problem being that guy.

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02-07-2013, 02:22 PM
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In the past two seasons Boyle has been on the ice for 3 of Taveras' points (including PP). Over the same span, Taveras has been on the ice for 3 of Boyle's points.

Is it possible it wasn't as dominant as you're remembering?
Don't fool him with stats, he just hates boyle and doesn't look past the fact that he can't be a rick nash type player.

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02-07-2013, 04:05 PM
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In the past two seasons Boyle has been on the ice for 3 of Taveras' points (including PP). Over the same span, Taveras has been on the ice for 3 of Boyle's points.

Is it possible it wasn't as dominant as you're remembering?
If theres one thing I've learned, its the eyes of posters that are the most important factor to determining the value of the player.

And how those eyes make their brain feel. or

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02-07-2013, 04:47 PM
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Don't fool him with stats, he just hates boyle and doesn't look past the fact that he can't be a rick nash type player.
For the 50th time, i don't hate Boyle. I don't hate any Ranger. I hate the way he is used. He is a 4th line center; nothing more. If he was centering our 4th line getting 5 - 7 ES minutes i wouldn't complain. What upsets me is all the talk of moving him to the PP because he is big or to a top 6 wing position. Also the premise that he is an excellent 3rd line player makes me ill. That's all i'm sayin'

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02-07-2013, 04:53 PM
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What upsets me is all the talk of moving him to the PP because he is big or to a top 6 wing position.
I must have missed that talk...

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02-09-2013, 10:30 PM
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I feel like Torts should show Boyle some trust and see if sitting lit a fire. Put em on a giant line with Nash. Try this:

Hagelin Richards Gaborik
Pyatt Boyle Nash
Miller Stepan Callahan (give miller less defensive responsibility by putting him on wing)

Kreider Halpern Powe (that line is fast, work Kreider in on the top lines)

Sit Asham - tb doesnt fight.

That's deep

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02-09-2013, 11:33 PM
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It's needed and they were broken up this morning during the flow drills.
Glad it was. I just didn't think Torts was leaning that way. Glad he was. We now have the ability to be a 3 line team, hell with a 4th that contributes. Rather than a 1 line team with a bunch of scrubs.

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02-09-2013, 11:39 PM
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I feel like Torts should show Boyle some trust and see if sitting lit a fire. Put em on a giant line with Nash. Try this:

Hagelin Richards Gaborik
Pyatt Boyle Nash
Miller Stepan Callahan (give miller less defensive responsibility by putting him on wing)

Kreider Halpern Powe (that line is fast, work Kreider in on the top lines)

Sit Asham - tb doesnt fight.

That's deep
And once again, the guy couldn't hack it as a 3rd line center, so you're making him a second line center? Are you serious? The guy should be nowhere near the THIRD line on an AVERAGE NHL team.

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02-09-2013, 11:43 PM
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Now Boyle is a 1st liner? The hell? Over Pyatt in the lineup? Pyatt is not some great player, but he's way better than Boyle. Last game we finally had top 9 players playing in the top 9. Hags and Pyatt are better as 3rd liners, but they can contribute to the top 6.

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And once again, the guy couldn't hack it as a 3rd line center, so you're making him a second line center? Are you serious? The guy should be nowhere near the THIRD line on an AVERAGE NHL team.
Thank you.

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Now you're just trying to get under people's skin. You can't really believe he belongs on the 1st line. Good one.

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Now Boyle is a 1st liner? The hell? Over Pyatt in the lineup? Pyatt is not some great player, but he's way better than Boyle. Last game we finally had top 9 players playing in the top 9. Hags and Pyatt are better as 3rd liners, but they can contribute to the top 6.
Wow I completely forgot about Pyatt. I would slot Boyle in Asham's spot.

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For the 50th time, i don't hate Boyle. I don't hate any Ranger. I hate the way he is used. He is a 4th line center; nothing more. If he was centering our 4th line getting 5 - 7 ES minutes i wouldn't complain. What upsets me is all the talk of moving him to the PP because he is big or to a top 6 wing position. Also the premise that he is an excellent 3rd line player makes me ill. That's all i'm sayin'
This x 100000...honestly, I think all of the posters that actually think this are one of his 50 brothers and sisters...

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02-10-2013, 12:16 AM
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I must have missed that talk...
guess so. Someone put him on the first line tonight on one of these threads.

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I must have missed that talk...
Edit: It's this thread

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Some fans just love to get an idea of a player in their head and that's it.

Boyle is a New York Ranger, sometimes you need to try and jump start a player and give him a chance to get out of a funk. It's one game. This isn't Xbox. Just because he may not have the best hands or isnt the sexy option to pass Nash the puck, hard work can still get you production. You are dealing with personalities and Boyle was a large part of the core and character of a very good Rangers team last year.

Putting him on the second line with Nash isn't permanent it's just a show of confidence for a guy who needs it right now. You bench him, light a fire and try to cash in on it. It worked with Feds last year. But you need to give him an opportunity to do it. It seems like some of you don't even want him to do well, and that's just ludicrous to me. The Rangers will need Boyle to snap back into form if they want to go places

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02-10-2013, 09:35 PM
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REALLY liking the lines we're rolling right now. Heck, Torts must too - when's the last time he stuck with the same lines - and rolled all four - through an entire game? We've gone from one power line, a soft second line an all defense third line and a fourth line that was quite frankly too bad to trust for more than a couple of shifts a night... to three evenly distributed, dangerous lines that can play in both ends of the rink, plus a very capable classic fourth line (with two of our better penalty kilers and a **** stirrer) that can check, hold the puck deep and actually contribute the odd goal.

I don't see Boyle getting ice time until someone gets hurt or someone does something stupid and winds up in the chateau bow wow. No disrespect to him as I appreciate him as a player and as someone who brings some very good defensive qualities to the game, but Miller has offense, speed and "jam" that he simply doesn't provide consistently (and hasn't provided at all since the Ottawa series). If Miller keeps this up, the only person I can maaaybe see him taking time away from is Halpern.

I base this opinion more on how well the four we have work, not anything about Boyle. Those four lines we fielded tonight are murder to match up against.


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