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His PK and defensive abilities say otherwise.
He's a good checker too but "ZOMG he doesn't knock people down" therefore he sucks at that too.

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His PK and defensive abilities say otherwise.
halpern powe cally nash hagelin can all pk we dont need an offensive blackhole to win faceoffs. also how has the pk been with the all mighty boyle in the lineup? pretty mediocre if you ask me

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There is a big difference my friend. One is a NHL caliber shutdown centerman while the others are fringe NHL players.
Stop with the shutdown talk. That is an insult to those who can actually shut other players down. He is a shot blocker. His skating is not even close to good enough to be a shut down player. McD is a shut down player. Ryan O'Reilly and Sean Coutourier are shut down centers. BB is just not.

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Brian ****ing Boyle is a shutdown centerman? On what planet?
It may have to be the fact that he's been starting over 70% of his shifts in the defensive end against the opposition's top line players

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I think whoever said Boyle is worth either of those players is not very smart.
Or perhaps Ranger fans really underrate him

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halpern powe cally nash hagelin can all pk we dont need an offensive blackhole to win faceoffs. also how has the pp been with the all mighty boyle in the lineup? pretty mediocre if you ask me
Surely u didnt mention the pp. We could have the best pp talent wise and it would still suck

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Or perhaps Ranger fans really underrate him
you really think he is worth clowe or murray???

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You're going to use the PP? Really? As if Asham somehow makes it any better through osmosis or something? I don't even see how this is relevant.

The PP is so ****ing putrid that it doesn't matter who is playing. Discard that point.
my bad i meant pk

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Except play great D at the C position against some of the other teams best players
That is exaggerated, He blocks shots but he never has the puck which is a big part of keeping other teams off the board. He's just not great at anything. He's good as a PK specialist and he wins a fair amount of draws. The rest of this legend is exaggerated and it appears that Torts is finally opening his eyes.

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Stop with the shutdown talk. That is an insult to those who can actually shut other players down. He is a shot blocker. His skating is not even close to good enough to be a shut down player. McD is a shut down player. Ryan O'Reilly and Sean Coutourier are shut down centers. BB is just not.
He played shut down D with a 70% rate against the other teams top players. So yeah shutdown center

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He's a good defensive center because he has the ability block shots and play on the penalty kill. He's offensively inept, skates as well as Rupp, has the turning radius of an 18-wheeler, can't shoot, has no peripheral vision...

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02-10-2013, 12:41 AM
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It may have to be the fact that he's been starting over 70% of his shifts in the defensive end against the opposition's top line players
Nobody cares about the shift start stats. And we get trapped in our zone on many of those shifts because he has no puck skills.

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Oh he did. As if we should be mad at Boyle for not improving it when a combo of Rick Nash, Marian Gaborik and Brad Richards can't generate a neutral zone pass.
We could have those 3 with leetch and zubov in their prime playing the points and it would still suck

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ferriero can skate, boyle cant
So? Does that make him a better player?

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asham can pass, boyle cant
Really? Show me these marvelous passes Aron Asham has set up this year. I'll be waiting.


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both can carry the puck i to the zone, boyle cant
Okay, that isn't Boyles game.

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boyle can win a face off, not if he beats out asham and plays wing
Boyle can win a faceoff, play physical and aggressive and play any role the coach asks him to play in...

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02-10-2013, 12:44 AM
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He played shut down D with a 70% rate against the other teams top players. So yeah shutdown center
Just because he played that role doesn't mean he was good at it. Everyone on this team looked better on the defensive side of the puck last year because of Hank. However, if you watch him play, it is amazing how bad he is when he has the puck and again puck possession helps alot in keeping the biscuit out of our net.

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Okay. For a second, I thought I'd have to assemble some internet lynch mob.
im not completely insane i just dont like BB all that much

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That is exaggerated, He blocks shots but he never has the puck which is a big part of keeping other teams off the board. He's just not great at anything. He's good as a PK specialist and he wins a fair amount of draws. The rest of this legend is exaggerated and it appears that Torts is finally opening his eyes.
He was benched one game... unless miller turns into a great defensive center boyle will be back.

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halpern powe cally nash hagelin can all pk we dont need an offensive blackhole to win faceoffs. also how has the pk been with the all mighty boyle in the lineup? pretty mediocre if you ask me
Powe and Halpern are more offensive blackholes than Boyle.

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02-10-2013, 12:46 AM
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wait is this still the gdt?

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im not completely insane i just dont like BB all that much
I don't either but moreso than guys like asham halpern ferriero etc who are also inept offensively lol

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Put Boyle back in TB doesnt fight...replace him with Asham, give him another shot. Anyways LGR!!!

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