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Does a bite require blood? If a dog comes over and bites a child but does not break skin is that not still considered a bite? The answer is no, it's still a bite.
You have it a little confused here.

What happens if a child comes up to a dog and puts his arm in a chained dogs mouth and then pulls back against the dog while others are holding the dog down?

What a dumb thing for someone to do.

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I'd bite your arm if you tried to smoother me. Apparent;y there is no suspension for suffocating someone. It's only sad that Grabo didn't bite him harder. I lost a lot of respect for Gallagher, Prust and MaxPac last night. It was a cheap move to hold Grabo from behind when he was engaged with your goon Prust. But I guess your goons weren't winning any fights against fighters -- so they went after non-fighters. Gutless acts from a team down 6-0 and now they are trying to place blame on others after starting it.
I'm not gonna get into a huge debate because at the end of the day, there are arguments to be made on both sides and no one will change anyones opinion. But as much as you may have lost respect for a few of our players, I lost a lot of respect for Orr. The guy is a beast, and he decided to go after a 5'7 Gionta (when Bourque came to Gionta's defence). When you are that big and that tough you don't go after someone who isn't in the same league as you. So your comment of our goons weren't willing to fight, well, a) we have no "goons", only pests. and b) your heavyweight went after a 5'7 player, what does that make him?

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I'm not gonna get into a huge debate because at the end of the day, there are arguments to be made on both sides and no one will change anyones opinion. But as much as you may have lost respect for a few of our players, I lost a lot of respect for Orr. The guy is a beast, and he decided to go after a 5'7 Gionta (when Bourque came to Gionta's defence). When you are that big and that tough you don't go after someone who isn't in the same league as you. So your comment of our goons weren't willing to fight, well, a) we have no "goons", only pests. and b) your heavyweight went after a 5'7 player, what does that make him?
To be fair to our players, do the Habs have any players measuring over 5'7"?

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You have it a little confused here.

What happens if a child comes up to a dog and puts his arm in a chained dogs mouth and then pulls back against the dog while others are holding the dog down?

What a dumb thing for someone to do.
It's dumb but at the end of the day. If a dog bites a child, no matter the situation than the Dog is responsible. Countless animals were either put down or banned because of this. I agree circumstance can dictate/pre-meditate situations but that is not an excuse for the action. Grabo embarrassed himself and the team with that, and lost respect from me. Which is a shame since I think he a better player than to do something that bush league

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Grabbo did mention that Habs taste like chickens.

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I'm not gonna get into a huge debate because at the end of the day, there are arguments to be made on both sides and no one will change anyones opinion. But as much as you may have lost respect for a few of our players, I lost a lot of respect for Orr. The guy is a beast, and he decided to go after a 5'7 Gionta (when Bourque came to Gionta's defence). When you are that big and that tough you don't go after someone who isn't in the same league as you. So your comment of our goons weren't willing to fight, well, a) we have no "goons", only pests. and b) your heavyweight went after a 5'7 player, what does that make him?
Gionta shouldn't have run REIMER last year. Everything he gets looks good on him imo.

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To be fair to our players, do the Habs have any players measuring over 5'7"?
Maybe not players but i'm pretty sure Michel Therrien is 6'+

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I'm not gonna get into a huge debate because at the end of the day, there are arguments to be made on both sides and no one will change anyones opinion. But as much as you may have lost respect for a few of our players, I lost a lot of respect for Orr. The guy is a beast, and he decided to go after a 5'7 Gionta (when Bourque came to Gionta's defence). When you are that big and that tough you don't go after someone who isn't in the same league as you. So your comment of our goons weren't willing to fight, well, a) we have no "goons", only pests. and b) your heavyweight went after a 5'7 player, what does that make him?
Have to somewhat agree with you here.

Leafs line-up has been changed and part of that is the Carlyle influence. I believe when he won the Cup with Anaheim his team had the most fights (or close to it).

I didn't think there was a need to Orr to swat the little gnats away, and let's face it the Habs were completely over matched physically by that line.

Perhaps frustration from both teams, the Leafs taking advantage and the Canadiens having no answer.

I'm not sure we'll see that line up when the Leafs have Lupul back and they get their 2 better defenders in Gunnarsson and Gardiner back. They're just making due with their depth guys right now.

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The guy is a beast, and he decided to go after a 5'7 Gionta (when Bourque came to Gionta's defence). When you are that big and that tough you don't go after someone who isn't in the same league as you. So your comment of our goons weren't willing to fight, well, a) we have no "goons", only pests. and b) your heavyweight went after a 5'7 player, what does that make him?
Didn't Gionta go after Orr because of his hit on Plekanec? What's Orr supposed to do?

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All Grabo has to do is point to the video...it clearly shows him trying to use both his hands to get Pacioretty's forearm out of his mouth.

Also say that he couldn't breathe (I actually think that he couldn't breathe for a bit).

Case solved, he doesn't get suspended.

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It's dumb but at the end of the day. If a dog bites a child, no matter the situation than the Dog is responsible. Countless animals were either put down or banned because of this. I agree circumstance can dictate/pre-meditate situations but that is not an excuse for the action. Grabo embarrassed himself and the team with that, and lost respect from me. Which is a shame since I think he a better player than to do something that bush league
A dog would not be put down for biting a child that stuck it's arm in the dogs mouth while the dog is being held down...

It's absolutely ridiculous that a guy that puts his forearm in a players mouth while said player is going nuts trying to get at another player cries foul that he had teeth marks on his arm afterwards... and yet people are eating it right up

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Didn't Gionta go after Orr because of his hit on Plekanec? What's Orr supposed to do?
Common sense, is a 5'7 "goalscorer" going to go after a 6'whatever enforcer?

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A dog would not be put down for biting a child that stuck it's arm in the dogs mouth while the dog is being held down...

It's absolutely ridiculous that a guy that puts his forearm in a players mouth while said player is going nuts trying to get at another player cries foul that he had teeth marks on his arm afterwards... and yet people are eating it right up
I wonder when Komarov has do the rookie dinner thing. All this talk of eating is making me hungry.

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Common sense, is a 5'7 "goalscorer" going to go after a 6'whatever enforcer?
From last nights case, it's pretty clear from the Habs, yes. And i'm not just talking about Gionta.

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He probably did bite him, but there's no indisputable evidence.

He won't be suspended (or shouldn't considering Burrows, etc).

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Common sense, is a 5'7 "goalscorer" going to go after a 6'whatever enforcer?
Well Gionta skated over to Colton Orr after the attempted hit, what did he think was going to happen, a friendly exchange of pleasantries?

The refs would have broke that up in a minute, I highly doubt Colton was going to actually fight Gionta. Not his fault that ********* Bourque jumped in. Maybe Rene should have realized who he was engaging with, wouldn't have got greeted with Orr's fist.

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Someone threw a stick at Orr, it was off camera but that's what set Orr off.

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A dog would not be put down for biting a child that stuck it's arm in the dogs mouth while the dog is being held down...
I do not agree with this, sorry. I have seen and heard far too many stories of this happening and other similar scenarios. The dog is ALWAYS at fault, why do you think there is a ban on pit bulls in ontario? Most pitbulls are harmless, but it's the ones that bite that ruin it for the rest

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Common sense, is a 5'7 "goalscorer" going to go after a 6'whatever enforcer?
Common sense for Pleks is to NOT take Orr's stick and throw it on the ice, of all players, he decides to piss off Orr? Common sense.

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Deny it. Marks on the arm? Of course, he jammed his hand in my mouth, what do you expect? It's like punching someone in the mouth and then complaining that you have cuts on your hand

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Well Gionta skated over to Colton Orr after the attempted hit, what did he think was going to happen, a friendly exchange of pleasantries?


What the heck would Gionta do to Orr? Bite Orr's ankle?
I highly doubt Orr fears Gionta

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Someone threw a stick at Orr, it was off camera but that's what set Orr off.
No Gionta grabbed Orr's stick out of his hand and threw it across the ice.

It's weird but years ago I was playing in a tournament in Montreal and someone did the exact same thing to me...Something is wrong with those Montrealers.

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It's dumb but at the end of the day. If a dog bites a child, no matter the situation than the Dog is responsible. Countless animals were either put down or banned because of this. I agree circumstance can dictate/pre-meditate situations but that is not an excuse for the action. Grabo embarrassed himself and the team with that, and lost respect from me. Which is a shame since I think he a better player than to do something that bush league
The point is there was no bite. I thought they spoke English in Montreal?

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