HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > The Rink
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
The Rink For the not so ready for prime-time players, coaches, referees, and the people that have to live with them. Discuss experiences in local leagues, coaching tips, equipment, and training.

STICKS - Buying Guide and Advice

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
02-01-2013, 09:47 AM
  #326
AIREAYE
Moderator
 
AIREAYE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Country: China
Posts: 3,629
vCash: 500
Easton Stealth doesn't mean anything, they've had good product lines and bad ones. Just goes to show how important it is for a company not named 'Bauer' to put out good product consistently.

AIREAYE is online now  
Old
02-01-2013, 11:47 AM
  #327
Jarick
Moderator
Doing Nothing
 
Jarick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: St Paul, MN
Country: United States
Posts: 24,421
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruhnie View Post
Yeah I do, but I wanted to try an Int stick at least once in my life, thought the sale price was as good a time as any to do it. I can't imagine a whopping 5 flex would make much of a difference though. As I found out from MSH forums (after I bought the stick of course), Warrior puts their flex zone on their sticks in a way that only spans the bottom 42" of the shaft. So basically you'd have to cut over 10" off to have any affect on flex. I was originally banking on my 3" cut upping the flex a bit, but yeah not so much.
Intermediates are rated 70 flex at ~3" shorter than a senior 75 flex.

So if you cut the senior sticks down to the same length as the 70, it would be somewhere around (completely ballpark):

55 flex = 55 flex
70 flex = 70 flex
75 flex ~ 85 flex
85 flex ~ 95 flex
100 flex ~ 110 flex

Give or take of course, and it depends on a bunch of things.

The only people who really get bugged are the ones who are in that gap between 65-70 flex intermediates and 75-77 flex senior.

And yes changing 1" in flex, even in "free flex zones" does seem to have a noticeable impact, maybe not night and day, but noticeable.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Man Bear Pig View Post
Bought an Easton Stealth a week ago. Played one game, went out for warmups the next game, broke it. Safe to say I'm not buying a Stealth again. They're known for this apparently.
Which Stealth model?

Jarick is offline  
Old
02-01-2013, 02:51 PM
  #328
Ruhnie
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Dallas
Country: United States
Posts: 75
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarick View Post
Intermediates are rated 70 flex at ~3" shorter than a senior 75 flex.

So if you cut the senior sticks down to the same length as the 70, it would be somewhere around (completely ballpark):

55 flex = 55 flex
70 flex = 70 flex
75 flex ~ 85 flex
85 flex ~ 95 flex
100 flex ~ 110 flex

Give or take of course, and it depends on a bunch of things.

The only people who really get bugged are the ones who are in that gap between 65-70 flex intermediates and 75-77 flex senior.

And yes changing 1" in flex, even in "free flex zones" does seem to have a noticeable impact, maybe not night and day, but noticeable.



Which Stealth model?
Well the Warrior rep on MSH seems pretty insistent that it doesn't make a difference, but ofc I'll take other people's anecdotal evidence into account and trust it a bit mroe. So probably next time I go Warrior I'll try the 85 SR.

Ruhnie is offline  
Old
02-01-2013, 06:06 PM
  #329
Jarick
Moderator
Doing Nothing
 
Jarick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: St Paul, MN
Country: United States
Posts: 24,421
vCash: 500
The Widow is very low kick which means the shaft is stiffer until just above the blade, so the shaft doesn't flex as much as a mid kick, so there's less flex effect. But it's still there.

Maybe for the Widow it's closer to 5 flex stiffer than 10. But then the original 70 flex rating is stiff. My Diablo at 70 flex (fused Widow) was one of the stiffest intermediates I've used.

Jarick is offline  
Old
02-01-2013, 07:05 PM
  #330
I Am Score*
---BradD---
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Country: United States
Posts: 1,666
vCash: 500
@ the guy who bought the lower flex Widow

That's completely normal to feel like the stick is too whippy or will break. I used to use a very high flex and when I made the switch it was awful.

Especially since some of my old sticks were virtually unbreakable. Don't put too much thought into it. If it breaks, it breaks. Just use it normally.



Don't break it on purpose. That's like 160 dollars down the toilet. I don't care who bought it, that's not right.

I Am Score* is offline  
Old
02-02-2013, 01:03 AM
  #331
Man Bear Pig
Registered User
 
Man Bear Pig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Earth
Posts: 9,511
vCash: 500
Shoulda mentioned it before, it was a stealth s14(Hall curve with an 85 flex). Sportmart is going out of business so it was on sale. I've been using Eastons since before the original synergy and cannot remember having an issue with one so soon. I've broken other brands quickly before but never an Easton.

Man Bear Pig is offline  
Old
02-06-2013, 10:08 AM
  #332
OpenIceHit42
Registered User
 
OpenIceHit42's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: STL
Posts: 704
vCash: 500
Any input on the Bauer Supreme One60? Broke one of my AK 27's last night and going to pick up a couple of sticks. I've felt the Supreme in store and liked it but just wanting some feedback from anyone that has used it

OpenIceHit42 is offline  
Old
02-06-2013, 10:18 AM
  #333
Leo Trollmarov
I was in the pool!!
 
Leo Trollmarov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,823
vCash: 500
I have recently learned that the Ai9 75 flex Datsyuk has by FAR the best backhand of any stick I have used, great wrist and snapper as well, but a HORRIBLE (compared to my Warriors/Bauers) slapshot, although one timers can be great when I catch them right.

Leo Trollmarov is offline  
Old
02-09-2013, 12:28 AM
  #334
coz21
Skrillllllz
 
coz21's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Upstate
Country: United States
Posts: 502
vCash: 500
Just broke my old Vapor XXX and I'm looking for a similar stick (low kick, stiff, etc) in the $100-160 price range. Any suggestions?

coz21 is offline  
Old
02-10-2013, 02:09 PM
  #335
Kermie
Beaver Pride
 
Kermie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Fargo, ND
Country: United States
Posts: 220
vCash: 500
Looking at purchasing the new Easton Mako II's. Can't decide between the M3 ($150) or the M5 ($200). Comparing them on Total Hockey, they're the same weights, but the M5 is made of 'kevlar wrapped composite' while the M3 is made of '3k woven carbon'. Is the M5 just more durable and is it worth the extra $50?

M5: http://www.totalhockey.com/product/M.../itm/11632-41/
M3: http://www.totalhockey.com/product/M.../itm/11634-41/

Kermie is offline  
Old
02-10-2013, 02:36 PM
  #336
AIREAYE
Moderator
 
AIREAYE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Country: China
Posts: 3,629
vCash: 500
Well whether or not the extra $50 is worth it is up to you. The weight and balance on both are absolutely astounding. The M3 II is perhaps the lightest and best balanced stick out there at the regular $150 pricepoint. What makes the M5 II a 'step up' is in addition to weight, you get a performance increase. The big thing about the M5 II is that it is built to stronger specifications, thus being very durable. It's heritage comes from the old Easton ST generations but at a reduced weight; it's supposed to be the same weight as the 2011 flagship Mako.

If you have some extra cash floating around or need the extra durability, I would go M5. If not or if you don't break sticks often, the M3 is an excellent choice.

This entire Mako II line has been amazing; the M1 II and M2 II also feel like the lightest and best balanced sticks in their respective pricepoints. However, there hasn't been enough feedback and I haven't shot with them personally, so I don't know how well they perform. Only going by weight and balance.

AIREAYE is online now  
Old
02-10-2013, 02:39 PM
  #337
AIREAYE
Moderator
 
AIREAYE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Country: China
Posts: 3,629
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by coz21 View Post
Just broke my old Vapor XXX and I'm looking for a similar stick (low kick, stiff, etc) in the $100-160 price range. Any suggestions?
Either stick to Vapor if you want a close approximation (though you are unlikely to find something that's very close to the XXX). Maybe a closeout X:60/X:50 if there are any left. In the current lineup, the X4.0 or X6.0 are pricepoint sticks in that range.

Reebok's Sickick series could work for you. Perhaps an old 10K or 11K/9K.

AIREAYE is online now  
Old
02-10-2013, 02:56 PM
  #338
Kermie
Beaver Pride
 
Kermie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Fargo, ND
Country: United States
Posts: 220
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by AIREAYE View Post
Well whether or not the extra $50 is worth it is up to you. The weight and balance on both are absolutely astounding. The M3 II is perhaps the lightest and best balanced stick out there at the regular $150 pricepoint. What makes the M5 II a 'step up' is in addition to weight, you get a performance increase. The big thing about the M5 II is that it is built to stronger specifications, thus being very durable. It's heritage comes from the old Easton ST generations but at a reduced weight; it's supposed to be the same weight as the 2011 flagship Mako.

If you have some extra cash floating around or need the extra durability, I would go M5. If not or if you don't break sticks often, the M3 is an excellent choice.

This entire Mako II line has been amazing; the M1 II and M2 II also feel like the lightest and best balanced sticks in their respective pricepoints. However, there hasn't been enough feedback and I haven't shot with them personally, so I don't know how well they perform. Only going by weight and balance.
Thanks for the advice! I haven't seen one in person yet as none of the shops around here have them yet, but after seeing the first gen Mako, I can imagine they're nice. A definite upgrade coming from my wooden Reebok!

Kermie is offline  
Old
02-10-2013, 03:48 PM
  #339
AIREAYE
Moderator
 
AIREAYE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Country: China
Posts: 3,629
vCash: 500
And you're not averse to spending 150-200 on a stick?

AIREAYE is online now  
Old
02-10-2013, 04:16 PM
  #340
Kermie
Beaver Pride
 
Kermie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Fargo, ND
Country: United States
Posts: 220
vCash: 500
Well I got just a little bonus from work so I figured I'd spend it on something!

Kermie is offline  
Old
02-10-2013, 04:26 PM
  #341
AIREAYE
Moderator
 
AIREAYE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Country: China
Posts: 3,629
vCash: 500
Aha indeed Though if you're willing to spend $150-$200, there are plenty of other options as well.

AIREAYE is online now  
Old
02-10-2013, 05:01 PM
  #342
Kermie
Beaver Pride
 
Kermie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Fargo, ND
Country: United States
Posts: 220
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by AIREAYE View Post
Aha indeed Though if you're willing to spend $150-$200, there are plenty of other options as well.
Yeah, I looked at Reebok's Ai and K series but I just liked the feel of the Mako's better. Not a big Bauer fan, although the new Vapor APX is probably the best I've held. Little over my price-range though!

Kermie is offline  
Old
02-10-2013, 05:16 PM
  #343
TieClark
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,108
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kermie View Post
Yeah, I looked at Reebok's Ai and K series but I just liked the feel of the Mako's better. Not a big Bauer fan, although the new Vapor APX is probably the best I've held. Little over my price-range though!
You could also take a look at Sherwood's. A N12 or a T100 are both very nice stick at the 180~ price point range

TieClark is offline  
Old
02-11-2013, 08:29 PM
  #344
Sean Garrity
Shut up and Dance!
 
Sean Garrity's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: The Nut
Country: United States
Posts: 9,418
vCash: 500
My Miken Z9 is supposedly coming tomorrow! Finally btw, totalhockey took forever. Damn being in So Cal I guess?

Thanks again Jarick for your recommendation, I ended up getting the intermediate flex after all btw.

Sean Garrity is online now  
Old
02-11-2013, 08:47 PM
  #345
OpenIceHit42
Registered User
 
OpenIceHit42's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: STL
Posts: 704
vCash: 500
Has anyone ever had an issue with ordering a stick online, receiving it 5-6 days later and breaking it on day #32 of the warranty? From my understanding the warranty kicks in as soon as you purchase even if it's online. Just wondering if manufactures would honor the warranty if you break it right after it expires although it takes the stick about a week to arrive to you.

OpenIceHit42 is offline  
Old
02-11-2013, 10:26 PM
  #346
AIREAYE
Moderator
 
AIREAYE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Country: China
Posts: 3,629
vCash: 500
Likely will at that close of a timeframe. Will definitely be worth a try.

AIREAYE is online now  
Old
02-12-2013, 08:23 AM
  #347
Jarick
Moderator
Doing Nothing
 
Jarick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: St Paul, MN
Country: United States
Posts: 24,421
vCash: 500
Yes talk to them right away, they might be good about it.

Jarick is offline  
Old
02-12-2013, 01:53 PM
  #348
Hainzy58
Registered User
 
Hainzy58's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Newcastle Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 526
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Hainzy58 Send a message via MSN to Hainzy58 Send a message via Yahoo to Hainzy58 Send a message via Skype™ to Hainzy58
Recently Got myself 3 Easton ST Grip and I love them so far, Played 13 games with them and personally like them better then the s19

Hainzy58 is offline  
Old
02-12-2013, 02:12 PM
  #349
nystromshairstylist
Puck Control Master
 
nystromshairstylist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Deking past you
Country: Barbados
Posts: 739
vCash: 500
I know its very expensive but recently got an APX and it is the best stick I've ever used by far.

Super light - but still easy to catch passes with, and can smoke a solid wrist shot if I hit it correctly (my technique is getting better). If one can afford it, you can do no better. I'll be studying the sale charts like a fiend in a year or so to hopefully pick some up on clearance.

nystromshairstylist is offline  
Old
02-12-2013, 02:21 PM
  #350
Jarick
Moderator
Doing Nothing
 
Jarick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: St Paul, MN
Country: United States
Posts: 24,421
vCash: 500
I was disappointed the X:60 didn't really go on clearance all that much.

Jarick is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:45 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.