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07-06-2006, 02:53 PM
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All I'm saying is that Gainey knows how valuable Markov is to this team, we all do. But if he decides to trade him I would imagine that he had a contract extension on the table for Markov and that he refused it. I'm not convinced that Markov is married to this team; did we not have a hard time bringing him over, if memory serves?
you do bring up a good point about Markov.
if Gainey ever trades him, not saying it will happen, it'll be because he thinks for sure Markov won't sign with the Habs.

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Ribeiro = Forsberg

Seriously though, Gagné is very good defensively and has a good offensive punch. He is much more valuable to a team the Ryder, I would think.
I agree Gagné has more '' Pazaz '' than Ryder but ... I dunno something reaks of '' lets get him for the sake of getting a French Canadian ''

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It's disgusting how underrated Andrei MArkov is here, people talk about acquiring a top D and completely disregard the guy ( as if he is value less )

Give Andrei Markov a Solid system with a partner who respects it, give him a better guy on the powerplay point.

and watch him notch 70 pts +
he had more points than chara (while playing less games i believe), and chara played with redden.

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At 4.9M it's 2 1st pick a 2nd and a 3rd , much better for the Habs than losing Markov or 4 1st. And i hope Hatcher isin't coming here.

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you do bring up a good point about Markov.
if Gainey ever trades him, not saying it will happen, it'll be because he thinks for sure Markov won't sign with the Habs.
i hear markov likes montreal and if he resigns with us he'll take a discount. yes, a russian taking a discount to play in montreal.
i also heard something about markov going back to russia if he doesn't resign with the habs.

all speculation, but interesting nonetheless.

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Another thing to keep in mind is this: (from the SJ board)

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There will be about 6-10 teams that will exceed the salary cap prior to the season beginning. In order to make the cap they'll need to dump players for picks or cheaper players.

NJ is at 41.8 million and they still haven't signed Gionta or Gomez plus they need a few more guys after that.

There are quite a few teams in this type of situation.

Vancouver,
Toronto,
Buffla has 12 RFA's so you got to believe they'll be signing and trading away.

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Getting UFAs is hard enough dealing Kovy wouldn't make much sense but you never know it might happen.
I don't see Philly going after prospects they have their share of those. On our side, if picks and prospects can get it done, I say go for it for the right return.
Gagne is a legit 1st line player who is amazing in the three zones.

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At 4.9M it's 2 1st pick a 2nd and a 3rd , much better for the Habs than losing Markov or 4 1st. And i hope Hatcher isin't coming here.
Probalby get here by x-mas...

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At 4.9M it's 2 1st pick a 2nd and a 3rd , much better for the Habs than losing Markov or 4 1st. And i hope Hatcher isin't coming here.
Gagne is asking for 5M$, why would he sign an offer sheet below his demands.

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I would NOT be happy about giving up Markov or 3 or 4 1st rounders.

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I agree Gagné has more '' Pazaz '' than Ryder but ... I dunno something reaks of '' lets get him for the sake of getting a French Canadian ''
that's what I was saying yesterday...I wouldn't be surprised Gainey gets Gagné to shut those francophone medias up
everybody knows the french media have been on the Habs' back for a long time now because they don't have francophone stars on board.
years after years after years of that pressure by the french media might be getting to the Habs.
I might be wrong, but since Flower, I don't think the Habs have drafted an offensive francophone star
anyways, this is all half-a$$ speculations on my part

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He's a great player , but so far how is he any different Stat Wise than Michael Ryder ?

Actually Michael Ryder has more points after 2 seasons than Simon Gagné had when he started ... so I don't know Folks ...
Aside from this year , they are not really different stats wise so you're right about that.

However Gagne two way game is much better than Ryder.Ryder is pretty much a pure goal scorer while Gagne can do everything one the ice.Overall SG has a much higher upside and it's quite apparent just by watching him play.

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Gagne is asking for 5M$, why would he sign an offer sheet below his demands.
Do you think it's gonna be a problem for 100k ? If Philly can't give him more than 3,5-4M it's still pretty good .

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Gagne is asking for 5M$, why would he sign an offer sheet below his demands.
We're talking $100,000 here...not exactly a big deal in the grand scheme of things, especially considering it would be helping the team he was coming to a great deal to take 4.9.

I would give up 2 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd.....I have real problems losing Markov though.

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07-06-2006, 03:08 PM
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I would NOT be happy about giving up Markov or 3 or 4 1st rounders.
what if we lose markov now and resign him next year?
kinda like what st.louis did with doug weight.

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We're talking $100,000 here...not exactly a big deal in the grand scheme of things, especially considering it would be helping the team he was coming to a great deal to take 4.9.

I would give up 2 1sts, a 2nd and a 3rd.....I have real problems losing Markov though.
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i say give the 1 rounders up who cares . your getting a 40 goal scorer coming into his prime . all the first rounders will be 20 to 24 th picks over all so no big losss really . heck the habs seem to have a good knack of finding top 20 talent in the late rounder 50 and 60 area . so id give up the first rounders and get this show on the road .


only tho is simon will sign 5 year deal in montreal . then i say lets do it

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Jesus Christ ... I am starting to freak out with some of these rumours ...

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what if we lose markov now and resign him next year?
kinda like what st.louis did with doug weight.
Now you're thinking

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wow its funny how excited people are getting over this lame a$$ rumour

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07-06-2006, 03:13 PM
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i say give the 1 rounders up who cares . your getting a 40 goal scorer coming into his prime . all the first rounders will be 20 to 24 th picks over all so no big losss really . heck the habs seem to have a good knack of finding top 20 talent in the late rounder 50 and 60 area . so id give up the first rounders and get this show on the road .


only tho is simon will sign 5 year deal in montreal . then i say lets do it
we could be missing out on some of the martin havlats and andrej mezaros's of the world.

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we could be missing out on some of the martin havlats and andrej mezaros's of the world.

ufa age dropping from 31 to 28 then 27 in 2008 . you can pick up alot of awesome talent coming into there primes with out having to develop them . i would worry bout the picks the market will be flooded next year and in 2008 . your not goona see the crazy salary offers like you seen this year as there are going to be so many kids to choose from it wont be funny. flooded market equal lower prices

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Code is on a site answering questions.. I just asked him this (with answer)

Hey Code,

There are rumors around in several HABS fan sites that the Habs might make offer Gagne or Bergeron an offer sheet of just under 5mill and give up the picks in compensation. Have you heard anything about RFA raids?

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It's not going to happen. GM's around the league aren't going to sign these players to offer sheets. You'll see a lot of trades happen come the begining of August.

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ufa age dropping from 31 to 28 then 27 in 2008 . you can pick up alot of awesome talnet coming into there primes with out having to develop them . i would worry bout the picks the market will be flooded next year and in 2008 . your not goona see the salary as you see this year there are going to be so many kids to choose from it wont be funny

Just don't forget that elite UFAs don't want to sign here.

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we could be missing out on some of the martin havlats and andrej mezaros's of the world.
either way, Habs are missing on them

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