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07-05-2006, 11:06 PM
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two words....


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just filling out that crappy Phantoms roster.

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That's a lot of centremen.

And more to do with Mark Cullen...

You know you're a nobody when you're not even one of the 35+ players on a team's roster in NHL 06.

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but guyZz!11 he had 16 poitns last year!!
and Savage had 14 in 66 games.....

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Good story about Mark from nhl.com.

after Cullen was hit from behind by a St. Cloud State opponent in the third period of play. Unbeknownst to Cullen, who missed one shift the rest of the game, and who played in overtime, he had broken his neck.
"My neck really hurt, but I never thought by any stretch of the imagination that it could be a broken neck," Cullen said. "It hurt, but I thought I could still play. I think we ended up winning in overtime."
Later, an MRI would reveal a compressed fracture in the vertebra. If hit at another angle, Cullen could have been paralyzed. As it was, he was out for eight weeks and wore a neck brace. He recovered in time to finish the season with 53 points in 31 games.

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Cullen's luck would take a negative turn. His physical detected a suspicious mole beneath his arm, it was discovered to be melanoma, or skin cancer.
"It was a shock," Cullen said. "Anytime you hear the word 'cancer', especially feeling that I was a young, healthy person, I was shocked to say the least. It was a scary time in my life and I'm glad to have gone through it and I'm glad to be healthy right now."

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Not to make light of his life-threatening situations...

But...

...not another injury-prone guy.


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07-05-2006, 11:22 PM
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Good story about Mark from nhl.com.

after Cullen was hit from behind by a St. Cloud State opponent in the third period of play. Unbeknownst to Cullen, who missed one shift the rest of the game, and who played in overtime, he had broken his neck.
"My neck really hurt, but I never thought by any stretch of the imagination that it could be a broken neck," Cullen said. "It hurt, but I thought I could still play. I think we ended up winning in overtime."
Later, an MRI would reveal a compressed fracture in the vertebra. If hit at another angle, Cullen could have been paralyzed. As it was, he was out for eight weeks and wore a neck brace. He recovered in time to finish the season with 53 points in 31 games.

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Cullen's luck would take a negative turn. His physical detected a suspicious mole beneath his arm, it was discovered to be melanoma, or skin cancer.
"It was a shock," Cullen said. "Anytime you hear the word 'cancer', especially feeling that I was a young, healthy person, I was shocked to say the least. It was a scary time in my life and I'm glad to have gone through it and I'm glad to be healthy right now."

http://www.nhl.com/features/spotlight/cullen040306.html
Damn, I know why Clarke signed him now. If he can play through a broken neck AND recover from cancer to make it to the NHL, his groin probably will not split in half skating around normally. Nice story.

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Not to make light of his life-threatening situations...

But...

...not another injury-prone guy.

Low man low...


I kinda changing my mind about his signing, he sounds like he could be a good player, Blackhawks fans seem to like him, and he would have played the whole season with the Hawks if it wasnt for waivers rules.


But some other centers (Nedved now, maybe Handzus at the deadline) has to go, there has to be a point about signing all these centers.

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Funny fact:

With the following 12 centers under contract we're now stacked from the 1st line of the Flyers to the 4th line of the Titans.
right, but at the same time, we're in pretty deep if Forsberg is in fact out for half of the season, not a lot of thought is being put into that by posters, as well as Bob Clarke...yeah like hell Gagne will come close to last season's goal total without Forsberg...haha

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i can see handzeus nedved umberger and esche all on the block soon

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have faith
'have faith' has become a transparent phrase around these boards...i remember being down by a touchdown in the elimination game vs. the sabres being told to have faith...i think its better to have better perception for what is going on rather than hoping that all will be well in the end

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[QUOTE=Lion of the North;5936985]I kinda changing my mind about his signing, he sounds like he could be a good player, Blackhawks fans seem to like him, and he would have played the whole season with the Hawks if it wasnt for waivers rules.


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I believe Cullen played pretty well for the Hawks towards the end of the season. Who knows what he could have done if he played a whole season. I wouldn't count him out.

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07-05-2006, 11:35 PM
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Are you 5-11 or less? Can you skate? Can you play both LW and C? Are you irrelevant? Do you have to be a diehard hockey fan to know who the heck you are? Did you play less then 30 games last year or not even in the NHL? Is your career potential a decent 11 or 12th forward on the team?

If you answered yes to all the above, you have a contract with the Flyers.

That's good!

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Wow, the amount of ...slop...to quote the originator of the thread the Flyers are picking up is quite funny. All we need are injuries to just a couple of people, say, Gagne and Forsberg (when he returns), and we will be the St. Louis Blues of last year.

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Funny fact:

With the following 12 centers under contract we're now stacked from the 1st line of the Flyers to the 4th line of the Titans.
And the wingers we're stacked all the way down to the 2nd line

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07-06-2006, 01:31 AM
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And the wingers we're stacked all the way down to the 2nd line
Clarke will sign another center and convert him to wing.

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right, but at the same time, we're in pretty deep if Forsberg is in fact out for half of the season, not a lot of thought is being put into that by posters, as well as Bob Clarke...yeah like hell Gagne will come close to last season's goal total without Forsberg...haha
Without Forsberg you still have Carter, Richards, Handzus, Nedved, possibly Primeau and then Ellison, Potulny on the Phantoms. I dont see the need to sign Murray, Robitaille, Cullen, 12th forward A, 12th forward B and 12th forward C.

One of them fine. Not all of them plus Tapper. Take that 2 million (est) and put it towards one decent player or two legit 3rd/4th liners. Could have kept Rado and signed another decent 3rd/4th liner for the amount that we have signed all these players.


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Vicious, totaly surprising. I visit the board to see who's as excited as I am for this signing and a vicious welcome for a solid player. Classy

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I need a project... as you can see... I'm bored...

Proposal .... considering salaries and depth on both teams.

to: van:
  • Gagne - 26yr - 4.5-5M (Philly can't afford him above 4M with Pitty & RJ Um going to arbitration - just do the math)
  • Knuble - 34yr - 2M (RJ is ready to step up & Cullen stepping into RJ's slot)
  • Handzus - 29yr - 2.128M (expensive 3rd centre - Kesler is younger version with BIG upside)
Total salary to Van - 8.878M (4.75M-Gagne/1.5M-Knuble/2.128M-Handzus = RW and replacing Nassy & Kes)

NOTE: Clarke being a Centre - HE BUILDS HIS TEAMS DOWN THE MIDDLE


to: philly:
  • Naslund - 32yr - 6M (key to resigning Forsberg - would be a fan favourite to make up the Gagne piece - prediction - 55+ goals)
  • Kesler - 21yr - 1M (Big Fast, Gritty Centre with loads of potential / hard to lose for Vancouver, but it's a give an take)
  • 2nd Rounder 2007 (deep draft year)
Total salary to Philly: 7M (Saving 1.88M + upgrade in scoring & leverage for Forsberg resigning + young stud (Clarke's style in a player)

SUMMARY:

Clarke get's another young stud for his CENTRE infatuation... and saves nearly 2M for another piece of the puzzle, plus - has a leveraging piece for resigning his PRIZE centre Forsberg.

Nonis, get's a slightly younger version of Naslund without the offensive weapon... but a player better suited to AV and the salary cap of the team. Plus, he fills one RW PF void for about 1.8M and has a more experienced 3rd centre.... with good size. If he can stomach Schultz with the twins and maybe convince Recchi to come home to BC - playing on the third line with Cooke and Handzus... he'd have good balance across all 3 lines. 2nd rounder - Nonis has one from trading Cloutier to make it worth Clarke's while.

Vancouver lineup:

Gagne 5 - Morrison 3.2 - Knuble 2 = 10.2M
Sedin 3.58 - Sedin 3.58 - Shultz .5 = 7.66M
Cooke 1.5 - Handzus 2.128 - Recchi - 1.5 = 5.128M (if your Hel-bent on Carter... put him with Sedin's and Shultz on third line)
Burrows .5 - Santala .6 - Linden .6 = 1.7M
Balej/King/Reid - .5M
Total Forwards = 24.68M

Ohlund 3.5 - Bieksa .6 = 4.1M
Krajicek .6 - Salo 1.5 = 2.1M
Mitchell 3.5 - Bourdon .5 = 4M
Brown/UFA = .75
Total Defense = 10.95M

Luongo - 6.75
Noronen - .73
Total Goalie = 7.48M

Total Canucks Salary = 43.11M (leaving .9 approx under the cap )

Philly lineup:


Naslund 6 - Forsberg 5.75 - RJ Um 2.5 = 14.25M
Dimitrakos .675 - Carter .9424 - Primeau 3 = 4.617M
Nedved 2.356 - Richards .9424 - Kapanen - 1.5 = 4.798M
Robitaille .6 - Kesler 1 - Cullen .6 = 2.2M
Eager - .646M
Total Forwards = 26.51M

Hatcher 3.5 - Pitkanen 2.5 = 6M
Baumgartner 1.2 - Rathje 3.5 = 4.7M
Gauthier 2 - Meyer .525 = 2.525M
Jonsson = .45
Total Defense = 13.675M

Esche - 1
Niittymaki - .6
Total Goalie = 1.6M

Total Philly Salary = 41.786M (leaving 2.2 approx under the cap )


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07-06-2006, 08:59 AM
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Sharks,

It's a great NHL 06 trade, but I would probably bite the bullet and do it. I don't think Knuble is very special, I have no problem trading him, and trading Handzus seems inevitable because of our insane depth at centre.

Gagne has been one of my favourite players since he came into the league, but uniting Forsberg and Naslund is something that really makes my mouth salivate. Yes, Naslund is in his 30s and Gagne is only 26, but I think most people here are in agreement that Gagne is NOT a truly special, 1st line winger that will lead a team to a championship. Naslund can score just as many goals with Forsberg, if not more, and can make plays on his own. He IS an elite player in this league and I wouldn't pass up the chance to have a first line that includes these two Swedish superstars.

Getting Kesler would be great, I think, because in the future Richards and Carter are the only two "sure things" in my mind in terms of depth at centre. Yes Downie, Potulny etc are coming up behind, but Downie will probably play wing and we're not sure about Potulny yet.

The only thing I don't like is your lines, but since you're not a Flyers fan I'll forgive you.

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just filling out that crappy Phantoms roster.
Gotta be. We have an insane number of forwards now

Forsberg
Gagne
Knuble
Carter
Umberger
Dimitrakos
Nedved
Richards
Kapanen
Handzus
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Murray
Robataille
Eager
Ruzicka
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Tapper
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Gotta be. We have an insane number of forwards now

Forsberg
Gagne
Knuble
Carter
Umberger
Dimitrakos
Nedved
Richards
Kapanen
Handzus
Primeau
Murray
Robataille
Eager
Ruzicka
Ellison
Potulny
Tapper
Cullen

And Downie, right? Is he on a two-way deal?

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And Downie, right? Is he on a two-way deal?
Downie can either play for the Flyers or the Petes, there's no inbetween.

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I saw this guy play a ton. He's a great guy (had a bunch of classes with him at Colorado College). Plus he's a character guy. See NHL.COM article. He comes from a hockey family. I'm sure you guys know his older brother, Matt. His younger brother, Joe, also played for Colorado College.

He played great for Chicago (all things considered), and he's skilled. He's deceptively quick and he has great on ice vision. His name was definitely thrown around for the Hobey Baker multiple times during his collegiate career. He was too small for the old NHL, but he'll fare much better in the new NHL. Mark my words, you will all be pleasanlty surprised.

Clarke is taking low risk gambles, and I like it.

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Are you 5-11 or less? Can you skate? Can you play both LW and C? Are you irrelevant? Do you have to be a diehard hockey fan to know who the heck you are? Did you play less then 30 games last year or not even in the NHL? Is your career potential a decent 11 or 12th forward on the team?

If you answered yes to all the above, you have a contract with the Flyers.
Yes!!! I made the team!

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