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02-06-2013, 08:49 PM
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one would think valencia being mentioned would get that message across.

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02-06-2013, 09:16 PM
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one would think valencia being mentioned would get that message across.
The first guy to test positive was Alex Sanchez, so that really should have done it.

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02-06-2013, 10:34 PM
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i'm just going to start leaving slips of paper in various pill mills around here.

"derek jeter. david murphy. nate mclouth." one will say.

"brett anderson. reed johnson. yovanni gallardo." another will say.

just pull a few names out of a hat and start a bunch of ****.
No need we have a real one! It's called the Mitchell Report:

"Marvin Bernard, Bobby Estalella, Barry Bonds"

"Larry Bigbie, Adam Piatt, Miguel Tejada"

"FP Santangelo, Kent Mercker, David Justice"


Obviously these magic pills only work for some people.

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http://espn.go.com/new-york/story/_/...itive-ped-test

More roid news.

no shock to me, I believe all pro athletes have used or are using. Why? Because they do help and the people who never use cannot compete and don't make it.

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02-07-2013, 05:42 AM
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http://espn.go.com/new-york/story/_/...itive-ped-test

More roid news.

no shock to me, I believe all pro athletes have used or are using. Why? Because they do help and the people who never use cannot compete and don't make it.
They don't help. How come no-name minor leaguers take steroids and it doesn't do anything?

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02-07-2013, 07:36 AM
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They don't help. How come no-name minor leaguers take steroids and it doesn't do anything?
Don't be ridiculous. They help healing, strength, stamina. All of which help people play better. People who take none at all have almost no chance of making it big. Probably many minor leaguers take it so they can just compete at that level. It's still a job, right?After all, even a short trip up to the majors can equal $$$.

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02-07-2013, 10:58 AM
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I really have no problem with people using steroids, but they are against the rules so the players need to abide by the rules or else they are cheating and should be punished, simple as that. In my opinion, players using PEDs means for better and more entertaining baseball which is a good thing. The only negative is that players who wouldn't want to take PEDs due to side effects or other reasons would have a disadvantage if they were legal.

Don't tell me the days of Bonds,Sosa,McGuire etc wasn't great fun

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02-07-2013, 01:44 PM
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I really have no problem with people using steroids, but they are against the rules so the players need to abide by the rules or else they are cheating and should be punished, simple as that. In my opinion, players using PEDs means for better and more entertaining baseball which is a good thing. The only negative is that players who wouldn't want to take PEDs due to side effects or other reasons would have a disadvantage if they were legal.

Don't tell me the days of Bonds,Sosa,McGuire etc wasn't great fun
I don't know many fans that could give a crap much like the team itself they just want their team to win.

Teams knew guys were using over the last 15 years ( heck almost every all star has appeared in one report or the other) they just didn't and i feel still don't care.

If it wasn't for the over the top media outrage and the government ( who seem to have had nothing better to do like playing attention to wall street) getting involved they still would have little to no system in place to fight it.

The MLB like all sports and companies is about making money and the ends will always justify the means as long as they can get away with it.

Also as others have said taking PED's does not make you an all star ball player.

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02-07-2013, 02:32 PM
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Don't be ridiculous. They help healing, strength, stamina. All of which help people play better. People who take none at all have almost no chance of making it big. Probably many minor leaguers take it so they can just compete at that level. It's still a job, right?After all, even a short trip up to the majors can equal $$$.
Plenty of legal substances do the same thing. What's legal and what's not is entirely arbitrary.

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You do realize he was likely seeing this guy to heal quicker from his constant injuries?
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Not really? It's a low risk, high reward signing. I don't even really like Melky, but I like the idea of a switch hitting 2 hitter with decent speed who can get on base. At the time, I was under the impression that it happened once, I could be wrong. If it happened/happens again, my stance will be much different. As of now, the guy made a mistake and paid for it.

A-Fraud has been cheating for over a decade. Like Lance Armstrong, his cheating made him millions of dollars. Millions of dollars that should have been paid to an honest a deserving player. A player who didn't cheat and get his name near the top of several career statistics.

Melky would have gotten a much bigger payday if not for all this; A-Fraud still got another $200 million dollar contract. Melky paid in more ways then one, did Rodriguez?

Guys a clown. Can't think of anyone more deserving of their fall from grace. Looks good on him, and the Yankees!
I'm sorry, but this has to be the most delusional, biased and cringe worthy post in this section of the forum.

I can' believe people think peds makes a difference to on-field play.

ARod is laughing all the way to the bank, he has nothing else to prove. He's a winner at life. He's an MVP, multiple All-Star, WS Champion for the most historic franchise in sports and his peak in one of the best, if not the best of all time. He certainly didn't lose out anyhow, especially when you look at his career earnings.

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I'm sorry, but this has to be the most delusional, biased and cringe worthy post in this section of the forum.

I can' believe people think peds makes a difference to on-field play.

ARod is laughing all the way to the bank, he has nothing else to prove. He's a winner at life. He's an MVP, multiple All-Star, WS Champion for the most historic franchise in sports and his peak in one of the best, if not the best of all time. He certainly didn't lose out anyhow, especially when you look at his career earnings.
I wonder how Arod would've done without PEDs.


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02-07-2013, 10:27 PM
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he'd be jeremy giambi, no doubt.

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he'd be jeremy giambi, no doubt.
Jeremy Giambi was on PEDs too though.

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02-07-2013, 11:09 PM
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I wonder how Arod would've done without PEDs.
You're right, he'd probably be Uduardo Nunez then. I mean, it's not like he was hyped up as a generational talent in his teen years or nothing.

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You're right, he'd probably be Uduardo Nunez then. I mean, it's not like he was hyped up as a generational talent in his teen years or nothing.
What do you mean I'm right? Did I say something offensive to your boy Arod? I love how you got all defensive. I never said or implied that he would be an atrocious player.

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I wonder how Arod would've done without PEDs.

He'd be healthy and raking to this day.

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Yeah, I can't wait for Melky to hit .265 with 10 HRs and be injured half the time now that he's "clean".

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A lot of the guys listed in this story have already tested positive. Colon, Cabrera, Grandal, etc. So I'm not sure why this story is so huge, other than that Braun's name appears again and he beat his last suspension.


Gio Gonzalez and Cruz are really the only notable names that haven't tested positive at some point.
Danny Valencia and Francisco Cervelli haven't either, but they suck anyway.

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Yeah, I can't wait for Melky to hit .265 with 10 HRs and be injured half the time now that he's "clean".
Once Melky's sky high BABIP regresses to the mean, steroid truthers will point to it forever as evidence that PEDs improve contact skills.

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Once Melky's sky high BABIP regresses to the mean, steroid truthers will point to it forever as evidence that PEDs improve contact skills.
Just like Brady Anderson. People neglect the juiced balls in 1996 and think he just stopped taking steroids after hitting 50 HR.

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Once Melky's sky high BABIP regresses to the mean, steroid truthers will point to it forever as evidence that PEDs improve contact skills.
Forget about the balls in play/contact point.

Assuming he began juicing with KC, since his numbers were vastly improved, his slugging pct was HEAD & SHOULDERS above any previous number the last two seasons.

PEDs at work.

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...when his babip went up 50 points and then another 50 points.

his walk rate fell and he started putting the ball in play more and has been pretty lucky (seriously a .379 babip?)

hardly an indicator of "ped"'s especially since you don't know when he started taking them. what if he was taking them when he was still with the yankees? despite having one of your wet dreams come true, it doesn't prove jack.

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