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Ryan O'Reilly Headed to Offer Sheet or Trade?

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02-11-2013, 06:28 AM
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It would probably be Yakupov + 2013 1st for ROR.
I cannot wait to see the angry Oiler fans comments on this one...

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02-11-2013, 06:35 AM
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I cannot wait to see the angry Oiler fans comments on this one...
what do they expect when their own fans make silly offers like 'Gagner + 2nd'?

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I'd certainly be willing to part with someone from the Leafs end, no team needs a center more than the Leafs. I'm not sure a Frattin,Kadri,Rielly or Gardiner would be on the move(would be lateral in reality) but guys like Kulemin,MacArthur etc could be. I know I know, not even close right? well, that depends on how much production you think you'll get.

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what do they expect when their own fans make silly offers like 'Gagner + 2nd'?
It's probably overpayment for just the signing rights of a center. I know he is an RFA but the value shouldnt be worth a ton. I mean top free agent signing rights were traded for merely a second rounder. I know O'reilly is a great center but his rights DO NOT return a average second liner and a second pick even if it is RFA.

To end all of these problems, how come the avs doesnt go to salary arbitration or is that only allowed in the off season?

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I'd certainly be willing to part with someone from the Leafs end, no team needs a center more than the Leafs. I'm not sure a Frattin,Kadri,Rielly or Gardiner would be on the move(would be lateral in reality) but guys like Kulemin,MacArthur etc could be. I know I know, not even close right? well, that depends on how much production you think you'll get.
LOL no, it doesn't matter...

You're not getting RoR without one of Gardiner+/Reilly+ in the deal. Hell we wouldn't even want Frattin or Kadri in the deal for RoR unless they were the + of the deal.

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It's probably overpayment for just the signing rights of a center. I know he is an RFA but the value shouldnt be worth a ton. I mean top free agent signing rights were traded for merely a second rounder. I know O'reilly is a great center but his rights DO NOT return a average second liner and a second pick even if it is RFA.

To end all of these problems, how come the avs doesnt go to salary arbitration or is that only allowed in the off season?
i think you're confused. there is no signing rights in this scenario. he couldn't be traded and simply refuse to sign like a UFA can.

as for arbritation, pretty sure that's saved for the off-season.

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02-11-2013, 07:21 AM
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We should offersheet him for 5 mill and if Colorado doesn't match we get a great centre... if they do they give him the contract they declined to do.

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We should offersheet him for 5 mill and if Colorado doesn't match we get a great centre... if they do they give him the contract they declined to do.
2 classless Subbans for such an idea.


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Would offer Wierchioch, our 1st and our 3rd for a signed ROR.
Why would the Sens do that? Turris is already signed long-term to be the second line centre, with Smith signed to be the third line centre as well.

Setting aside the value, what would be the strategy for Ottawa to acquire another centre? In case Spezza's career is in danger? To move Turris to the wing? We need scoring line wingers far more than another top six centre, particularly when you take into consideration the aged (Alfie) and tunnel-visioned (Michalek, Greening).

If we're giving up assets like that, I would hope the focus is on areas of the club where we are weak, and I particularly wouldn't deal Wiercioch unless a defenceman was coming back.

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Thank your fellow fanbase for the laughs.

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What does him being a leafs fan have anything to do with these joke over the top proposals for a player who is holding out for a kings ransom that he doesn't deserve?

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Have a hunch that Avs fans are going to be very disappointed with what they end up getting for RoR. Yakupov + 1st? Gardiner/Rielly ++? Laughing at Gagner and Edmonton's 2nd? Would be willing to bet a great deal that the eventual return is closer to Gagner than Yakupov/Gardiner/Rielly.

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Have a hunch that Avs fans are going to be very disappointed with what they end up getting for RoR. Yakupov + 1st? Gardiner/Rielly ++? Laughing at Gagner and Edmonton's 2nd? Would be willing to bet a great deal that the eventual return is closer to Gagner than Yakupov/Gardiner/Rielly.
first off, the Yakupov + 1st was a counter to the silly Gagner + 2nd proposal.

secondly, there's no viable source that states that O'Reilly has demanded a trade.

and finally, O'Reilly is worth much more than someone of Gagner's value. he's a piece of the Avs core.

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These threads are always humorous. They always seem to devolve into an angry back and forth between the team holding a player's rights and the teams that would like to trade for him.

Rinse, wash, repeat.

Has anyone's mind ever changed based on these types of threads? The only thing I know for certain is that ultimately any deal is unlikely to reflect the predictions of posters on this board.

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What does him being a leafs fan have anything to do with these joke over the top proposals for a player who is holding out for a kings ransom that he doesn't deserve?
A member of the Leafs fanbase thanks another fanbase for the laugh... I've even multi quoted it for you so that you can keep up

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We should offersheet him for 5 mill and if Colorado doesn't match we get a great centre... if they do they give him the contract they declined to do.
Not if the flyers beat you to it cause its just what we need another C.

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The Flyers could probably use him on D.

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first off, the Yakupov + 1st was a counter to the silly Gagner + 2nd proposal.

secondly, there's no viable source that states that O'Reilly has demanded a trade.

and finally, O'Reilly is worth much more than someone of Gagner's value. he's a piece of the Avs core.
Whats silly is you expecting more for a player not playing for your team and is trying to strike it rich.

The Aves would be lucky getting Gagner the way he is playing right now.

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A member of the Leafs fanbase thanks another fanbase for the laugh... I've even multi quoted it for you so that you can keep up
The leafs are a funny team to follow no doubt about it but it has nothing to do with this thread, he has every right to laugh at these ridiculous over the top proposals for a "core" player that is holding out for a big pay day... just as much as an Oilers fan, Blue Jackets fan, Islanders fan etc has a right too as well.

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Whats silly is you expecting more for a player not playing for your team and is trying to strike it rich.

The Aves would be lucky getting Gagner the way he is playing right now.
What's silly is the constant back and forth between increasingly offended posters over fantasy-land trade proposals that will never actually happen in real life.


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The leafs are a funny team to follow no doubt about it but it has nothing to do with this thread, he has every right to laugh at these ridiculous over the top proposals for a "core" player that is holding out for a big pay day... just as much as an Oilers fan, Blue Jackets fan, Islanders fan etc has a right too as well.
You're really not getting it, are you? I was pointing out the irony of a Leafs fan thanking any other fan for their team providing laughs.

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