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02-10-2013, 09:40 PM
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Why would the Caps trade a young, top 3 D for another goalie prospect? Holts, Neuvy, and Grubauer all are potential #1s. If anything they'd try to trade a young goalie and a guy like Johannson for a more pressing need like a scoring winger.

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02-10-2013, 10:27 PM
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OP proposal is awful; no chance Bruins do that

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OP proposal is awful; no chance Bruins do that
Interesting you say that, as several posters are saying no chance the caps do it. Seems like a good trade to me, when both sides feel bad about the deal, it's even

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Interesting you say that, as several posters are saying no chance the caps do it. Seems like a good trade to me, when both sides feel bad about the deal, it's even
It's a good trade for the Bruins because they're getting a 23 year old top pairing defenseman signed to a steal for 6 years for spare parts caps could easily pick up through other avenues if they wanted to.

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Interesting you say that, as several posters are saying no chance the caps do it. Seems like a good trade to me, when both sides feel bad about the deal, it's even
Or that one side is seriously overrating the value of unproven prospects and picks (pretty common on HF) compared to a young, proven player who's shown #1 upside. Especially when one of the prospects is considered a flight risk, the other is a goalie one year after his draft (I shouldn't have to go into the risks that come with that), and the draft pick is bottom 3 at the moment.

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This strikes me as an offseason trade. B's defense is fine as it is, even if it could afford to get a little younger. Value wise, I would deal either two prospects, or one prospect and one of Ference/Boychuk for Carlson. In terms of prospects, I'd offer up Knight, Camper, Cross, or Volden without much hesitation. Guys like Griffith, Camara, Khokhlachev, Svedberg, Spooner and Krug I'd like to hold onto for now but as they say, nobody's untouchable for the right price. Johnny B and Ference are both defense-first guys; neither are all-stars but you'll never really see them make crucial mistakes. I understand Ference is regarded as a great locker room guy too, a perfect "playoff run leadership" type.

One of Boychuk/Ference + one of Knight/Camper/Cross/Volden for Carlson, then? If it were at the deadline, a conditional pick if Ference doesn't re-sign in Washington would be included.

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02-11-2013, 12:39 AM
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This strikes me as an offseason trade. B's defense is fine as it is, even if it could afford to get a little younger. Value wise, I would deal either two prospects, or one prospect and one of Ference/Boychuk for Carlson. In terms of prospects, I'd offer up Knight, Camper, Cross, or Volden without much hesitation. Guys like Griffith, Camara, Khokhlachev, Svedberg, Spooner and Krug I'd like to hold onto for now but as they say, nobody's untouchable for the right price. Johnny B and Ference are both defense-first guys; neither are all-stars but you'll never really see them make crucial mistakes. I understand Ference is regarded as a great locker room guy too, a perfect "playoff run leadership" type.

One of Boychuk/Ference + one of Knight/Camper/Cross/Volden for Carlson, then? If it were at the deadline, a conditional pick if Ference doesn't re-sign in Washington would be included.
Is this a joke? Would you do Laich and Johansson for Seguin? Cause that's better comparative value than what you're offering.

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good lord. he is a canadian media that cover the ohl?
if this were kpd i could believe it. this guy? come on

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02-11-2013, 08:45 AM
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good lord. he is a canadian media that cover the ohl?
if this were kpd i could believe it. this guy? come on
I would take Dom's word over KPD every day of the week. Without question.

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I would take Dom's word over KPD every day of the week. Without question.
Same here, I don't know him personally but I have followed him and he is as legit as they come in my opinion. I even wish he would give us a little more of the info he has since he obviously holds back a lot of names.

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We are not trading for a goalie. No need. Go to Philly.
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good lord. he is a canadian media that cover the ohl?
if this were kpd i could believe it. this guy? come on
He has connections within the Bruins and knows plenty of others that do. Anyone on the Bruins board who reads his stuff can vouch for him. He's just as legit as KPD.

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I read the tweet and subsequent follow-up in the thread and I'm betting you could just replace the word 'Bruins' with the name of about 15 other teams and not be too far off. It was sufficiently vague as to not really say much at all.

A lot of the proposals are nothing more than wishful thinking on the part of Bruins' fans hoping McPhee does something rash and none of the other 28 GMs decide to beat the lowball offers thrown about. I would imagine the cost to the Bruins would be more than it would be to a number of other teams as well.

I hold Carlson in lower regard than most Caps fans, but I would imagine that the other team would be giving up a piece it doesn't want to trade if it were looking to acquire him.

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He has connections within the Bruins and knows plenty of others that do. Anyone on the Bruins board who reads his stuff can vouch for him. He's just as legit as KPD.
sure. if it actually happened, its dead now. mcphee deals never hit the media before hand. there are no sources inside mcphee's office. it appears that a contigency of dealing with mcphee is no leaking. ask eric belanger. talk about it before is done and it wont happen.

if you see a rumor about the capitals in the media, its not true.

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Carlson has been brutal this year, every single game I've seen him play he was terrible, even worse than Tyler Myers, at this point if I'm Boston I would hesitate before I trade for him. His defensive play along with Ovechkin lack of success are the main reason the Caps have been so bad this year.

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sure. if it actually happened, its dead now. mcphee deals never hit the media before hand. there are no sources inside mcphee's office. it appears that a contigency of dealing with mcphee is no leaking. ask eric belanger. talk about it before is done and it wont happen.

if you see a rumor about the capitals in the media, its not true.
Many teams like to believe this is true, including the Bruins.

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With rask in all likelihood getting a long term extension and svedberg playing very well in the "a", is malcolm subban the most likely trade bait right now? Leading the ohl in goals against, future #1 starter potential, I wouldn't mind if the bruins dealt him to a team like washington, who's starting to question Braden holtbys long term future after a great playoffs. A deal that looks like subban, boychuk, khoklachev and a 1st for John carlsson.

Gives the caps a top 6 defensmen in the short term and a potential top 6 forward, top flight goalie and a player to be named later in the longterm. Bruins get a top pairing defensemen to go with Dougie Hamilton long term, and strengthen their overall D in the short term
Even if it's an overpayment as a Sens fan, I disagree with any trade making Boston's defense better.

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Carlson has been brutal this year, every single game I've seen him play he was terrible, even worse than Tyler Myers, at this point if I'm Boston I would hesitate before I trade for him. His defensive play along with Ovechkin lack of success are the main reason the Caps have been so bad this year.
Not true, he struggled but he picked it up lately. And he's been easily better than Myers.

If I'm Washington I don't trade him for low value because of ten ****ing games the whole team struggled in.

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sure. if it actually happened, its dead now. mcphee deals never hit the media before hand. there are no sources inside mcphee's office. it appears that a contigency of dealing with mcphee is no leaking. ask eric belanger. talk about it before is done and it wont happen.

if you see a rumor about the capitals in the media, its not true.
My take on it is that it sounded like a fishing expedition by the Bruins to see if the Caps were desperate to make a move. The Bruins ask about Carlson, the Caps give back a list of player(s) they would want back for him, which Boston probably did not like. In order for it to be a salary relief move, it would had to be one of Chara, Krejci, Bergeron, Lucic, or Seguin moving and I don't think the Bruins are willing to move any of those players for Carlson, talented ( and local ) as he is.

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Many teams like to believe this is true, including the Bruins.
Find a Caps trade that was known about beforehand.

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As a habs fan i would hate to see the Bruins get Carlson. He's a stud on the blueline and very nasty to play against. Although the value is good I don't see Washington doing this( i hope they don't). Boychuk's ok, the first will be a very late first, the Russian prospect could bolt at any time and Subban definitely has potential but all of it doesn't seem to replace Carlson.
I am not a Bruins fan, but I appreciate how they play - tough, straight ahead, Canadian style hockey. They build a team to play that way, so getting Carlson would continue that trend. Unlike Boston, Washington appears to have no direction. I could see them doing something silly like this trade.

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I am not a Bruins fan, but I appreciate how they play - tough, straight ahead, Canadian style hockey. They build a team to play that way, so getting Carlson would continue that trend. Unlike Boston, Washington appears to have no direction. I could see them doing something silly like this trade.
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Unlike Boston, Washington appears to have no direction. I could see them doing something silly like this trade.
please, show me one example of george mcphee making a trade remotely as silly as this one. just one...please

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