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02-11-2013, 06:39 PM
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The only way we are trading for a centre, is if it's a number one centre. We're not trading for Sutter!
As I said, I don't think we're so limited in this manner. I think if Nonis think Sutter has size and #2C capability then maybe he's entertaining the notion of something like this:

Out:
Kulemin (Pit)
Grabo
Kostka/Holzer/Fraser/Gunnar

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Sutter
Top-6 Forward
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Top-4 D

All depends on what that unknown is that's coming back for Grabo & a depth D.

Meh... so unlikely still...

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02-11-2013, 06:43 PM
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You think we are going to move Kulemin so that we can move Grabovski and replace him with Brandon Sutter? That's a massive downgrade, IMO. Sutter is not a #2 centre.

I highly doubt Kulemin is moving. He's one of our better defensive forwards who can put up points. I think the Komarov - Grabovski - Kulemin line will be able to shut down other teams top lines while still being able to produce, and the best part is they are all capable of speaking Russian, so I think the chemistry will come with time.

MacArthur is the odd man out here in Toronto, he has been for a while.

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You think we are going to move Kulemin so that we can move Grabovski and replace him with Brandon Sutter? That's a massive downgrade, IMO. Sutter is not a #2 centre.

I highly doubt Kulemin is moving. He's one of our better defensive forwards who can put up points. I think the Komarov - Grabovski - Kulemin line will be able to shut down other teams top lines while still being able to produce, and the best part is they are all capable of speaking Russian, so I think the chemistry will come with time.

MacArthur is the odd man out here in Toronto, he has been for a while.

How so? I mean, I admit I haven't seem him play much - have you? He seems to show some potential in the M Richards/ Ryan Oreilly elk. Seems like he could be prototype 2nd line C material. IMO Grabo's contract will force his departure sooner or later.

Of course, we're just spitballing here, but if Kadri is also capable of the #2C now and Grabo can't play #1C, then what?

All depends ... if we can get a legit young top-6 game breaker for Grabo & Gunnar, I'd do it.

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02-11-2013, 06:53 PM
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"I'll be surprised if he ever plays with Colorado again"

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How so? I mean, I admit I haven't seem him play much - have you? He seems to show some potential in the M Richards/ Ryan Oreilly elk. Seems like he could be prototype 2nd line C material. IMO Grabo's contract will force his departure sooner or later.

Of course, we're just spitballing here, but if Kadri is also capable of the #2C now and Grabo can't play #1C, then what?

All depends ... if we can get a legit young top-6 game breaker for Grabo & Gunnar, I'd do it.
I don't think Sutter has the offense to be a #2 centre, unless we're dealing Bozak for a #1 centre, I think he could be used throughout the line-up as a good #2, and a really really good #3. Grabovski's contract will be fine for a few more years. We can only hope Kadri pushes him out of his spot. But I think Kadri pushes Bozak down not Grabovski.

If we can get Grabovski + Gunnar for a good centre then yes. But it'd have to be a #1. There's no point of trading Grabovski for another #2 centre or a winger. It's a side-ways move.

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Kypreos on RoR:

"I'll be surprised if he ever plays with Colorado again"
MacLean's dumb. You hear him? He's talking about how they shouldn't pay him more then Duchene. ROR's far more complete of a player so far then Duchene.

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MacLean's dumb. You hear him? He's talking about how they shouldn't pay him more then Duchene. ROR's far more complete of a player so far then Duchene.
He built a winner in Columbus!

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"I'll be surprised if he ever plays with Colorado again"
I want him in a Leafs sweater!

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MacLean's dumb. You hear him? He's talking about how they shouldn't pay him more then Duchene. ROR's far more complete of a player so far then Duchene.
I'd take either or ha.

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MacLean's dumb. You hear him? He's talking about how they shouldn't pay him more then Duchene. ROR's far more complete of a player so far then Duchene.
no hes talking about a gm in the cap era .......look at the dilemma burke put the leafs in with kessel .....u gotta look at keeping young players longrr than 25 ,26 ,27......he will get what colorado offers ,,,,

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02-11-2013, 07:04 PM
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I want him in a Leafs sweater!



Close enough.


I like him as a player, But I'd very wary of what we would give up for him.

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no hes talking about a gm in the cap era .......look at the dilemma burke put the leafs in with kessel .....u gotta look at keeping young players longrr than 25 ,26 ,27......he will get what colorado offers ,,,,
PLus Duchene looks very very good this year - much more dangerous than last year.

Either way, wonder what Colorado wants? They could desperately use some blueline mobility. Maybe Gunnar gets dangled.

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02-11-2013, 07:25 PM
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Somebody on the trade board is reporting that STL's GM is at the game tonight. There scouts were at our games last week.

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Blues GM Doug Armstrong is here in Toronto, catching the Flyers/Leafs game.

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Somebody on the trade board is reporting that STL's GM is at the game tonight. There scouts were at our games last week.

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Interesting... wonder who might be available for St Louis. I dare say they don't exactly make ideal trade parters unless they want to part with a prized winger.

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I wouldn't mind grabbing Andy McDonald if he came cheap. He's a pretty good playmaker, I'd just worry about his concussion problems and playing teams like the Bruins, Sabres, and the stuff with the Habs.

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02-11-2013, 07:56 PM
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I wouldn't mind grabbing Andy McDonald if he came cheap. He's a pretty good playmaker, I'd just worry about his concussion problems and playing teams like the Bruins, Sabres, and the stuff with the Habs.
Me too, but I would only give Grabo for him and we'd have to get something else back. I really don't think we're good partners.

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Chris Stewart please

JVR-Bozak-Kessel
Frattin-Kadri-Stewart
Komarov-Grabo-Kulemin

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Chris Stewart please

JVR-Bozak-Kessel
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You'd have to think someone from our top-9 would be going the other way... unless they'd take Gunnar + Macarthur.

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02-11-2013, 08:22 PM
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Speaking of St Louis, they do have Halak & Elliot.

We may need a goalie pretty soon... that's either a bad pull or a tear to Reimer... so so so brutal. Ugh.

Bernier? Halak? Harding? Holtby/Neuvirth?

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Ya, Elliot may soon be making his way here

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Somebody on the trade board is reporting that STL's GM is at the game tonight. There scouts were at our games last week.

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MacArthur for Berglund?

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Kypreos on RoR:

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As long as it doesn't cost 2 1sts and a 2nd

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I'm sure Khabby could still be had for a cheap price...might be viable as a stop-gap.

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Somebody on the trade board is reporting that STL's GM is at the game tonight. There scouts were at our games last week.

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Interesting. Stewart? Berglund? I'd love to move Mac + something for Stewart.

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Interesting. Stewart? Berglund? I'd love to move Mac + something for Stewart.
Think bigger.

Stewart + Halak

If we added Stewart we'd easily be the toughest team in the East. Wonder what kind of hefty price tag those two would demand.

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