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02-11-2013, 10:22 AM
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Paul Stastny: Wood vs Composite comparison

So we can all see that Stastny's production has been down the last few years, and I had remembered that he had switched to a composite stick, so I wanted to see how much his production had been effected. This isn't saying that he just needs to switch sticks and be fine, just a comparison of the production he has had with Wood vs Composite sticks.

Wood Stick
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Year GP G A P
2006-07 82 28 50 78
2007-08 66 24 47 71
2008-09 45 11 25 36
2009-10 81 20 59 79
Totals: 274 83 181 264
This gives us:
PPG 0.96
GPG 0.30
APG 0.66


Composite Stick
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Year GP G A P
2010-11 74 22 35 57
2011-12 79 21 32 53
2012-13 10 3 3 6
Totals 163 46 70 116
And this gives us:
PPG 0.71
GPG 0.28
APG 0.43

Looking at the numbers alone, his production has gone down significantly since switching to a composite stick. But he is scoring goals at almost the same rate, it's the assists that are dragging him down.

I'm assuming that switching sticks wouldn't affect his passing that much(??), so maybe it's just a problem with his linemates not burying his passes. What do you think?

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I'm assuming that switching sticks wouldn't affect his passing that much(??), so maybe it's just a problem with his linemates not burying his passes. What do you think?
I think it all comes down to the linemates. His GPG rate hasn't changed at all really, its the APG that has dropped dramatically. His Linemates just aren't burying the puck like they used to. Look at McGinn this year, the guys had what 8 posts playing with Stastny, and a few other chances that were simply fantastic saves by the other Goaler.

If McGinn had scored on half of those chances, he would have another 5 goals easily, and Stastny would probably have assisted on 4 of them if not all 5.

4 More Assists for Stas right now and he's at 3G 7A for 10 points through 10 games, leading the Avs in points and probably more like a -1/-2 compared to the -6 right now.

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I'm assuming that switching sticks wouldn't affect his passing that much(??), so maybe it's just a problem with his linemates not burying his passes. What do you think?
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...53&postcount=1

At some point if I ever get free time (read: never) I should update that to include his linemate's statistics.

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I don't think anyone makes wooden sticks any more. Should carve his own out of a fallen tree, call it Wonderstick.

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Yeah, I think Sher-Wood was the last company to make wooden sticks, and even they stopped in recent years.

Personally it took me a long time to switch to a composite shaft/fiberglass blade. I can see the advantages now but the added heft and control of a wooden stick was a difficult thing to lose.

EDIT: I think Spezza was also one of the last players to switch to a composite stick. Did his production drop any?


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EDIT: I think Spezza was also one of the last players to switch to a composite stick. Did his production drop any?

Spezza - Wood stick:
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Year GP G A P
2002-03 33 7 14 21
2003-04 78 22 33 55
2005-06 68 19 71 90
2006-07 67 34 53 87
2007-08 76 34 58 92
Totals 322 116 229 345
PPG 1.07
GPG 0.36
APG 0.71


Spezza - Composite stick:
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Year GP G A P
2008-09 82 32 41 73
2009-10 60 23 34 57
2010-11 62 21 36 57
2011-12 80 34 50 84
2012-13 5 2 3 5
Totals 289 112 164 276
PPG 0.95
GPG 0.38
APG 0.56


Doesn't look like too much of a difference. Could be getting older... Or maybe having a wood stick makes your teamates shoot better

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Spezza - Wood stick:

PPG 1.07
GPG 0.36
APG 0.71


Spezza - Composite stick:

PPG 0.95
GPG 0.38
APG 0.56


Doesn't look like too much of a difference. Could be getting older... Or maybe having a wood stick makes your teamates shoot better
Rotfl, I see what you did there.

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I don't think anyone makes wooden sticks any more. Should carve his own out of a fallen tree, call it Wonderstick.
I doubt Stastny would be a "natural" to carve a stick

but joke aside it has to do with his linemates , not his stick .

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TOday ive tried to buy a new stick in wood and the only one ive finded in gatineau ( and i was go to 4-5 stores) is a sherwwod with stastny curve....idont have choice to love it cause it's the only one in a big city!!!!!!!!

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Interesting necro

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Kind of off topic but for those who like wood sticks (I am one of those people), there is a great small company out there still making them with quality in mind as well as having more options available than most retail stores.

http://www.elevenhockey.com/

I am in no way affiliated with them. I am just a happy customer of their products.

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Wood sticks are still made, pretty sure they just aren't made as solid as they once were in terms of the blade. I have several friends that I play outdoor with that use the newer wood sticks and their blades are so damn floppy. I guess thats what you get for $30-$40 though. I prefer the lightest sticks possible, but I cannot deny that my stick handling and puck control was without a doubt better with a wooden stick. A couple years back Sherwood made a composite stick that looked/felt like a wooden stick and I really wish I would have picked one up.

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so can we give sacco and linemates more blame than the stick?

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I used to be an easton guy then had problems with them breaking so I moved over to warrior and bauer and haven't had any problems. I do want to try the ribcore twig that dutch uses. I just can't believe how much stick prices have gone up the past 5 to 6 years.

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Wood sticks are still made, pretty sure they just aren't made as solid as they once were in terms of the blade. I have several friends that I play outdoor with that use the newer wood sticks and their blades are so damn floppy. I guess thats what you get for $30-$40 though. I prefer the lightest sticks possible, but I cannot deny that my stick handling and puck control was without a doubt better with a wooden stick. A couple years back Sherwood made a composite stick that looked/felt like a wooden stick and I really wish I would have picked one up.
Was it the T90's? Because I absolutely loved those sticks, sucks that they stopped making them the way they used to and have completely changed the stick to become even more of a composite stick. I preferred wood sticks growing up but as I got older, I wanted a lighter stick, and that's around the time the T90 models with Stastny's curve began to come out. Had all the feel of a wood stick, but was composite

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