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View Poll Results: Should the Habs claim Darcy Hordichuk on waivers?
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02-11-2013, 08:59 PM
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He his.. but sadly hes not scarier than White or Prust or Moen.
Travis Moyen is a lazy gutless puke and White can't win a fight, Boyle can do better. Anyway he seemed pretty intimidating in the playoffs. He did something wich is more than Moyen can do.

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02-11-2013, 09:07 PM
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This is pretty childish stuff. What repeating? I talked about Hordichuk in one post. Why do you insist that I'm repeating myself? And why do you mimic my last line? How is that viewed as respectful, or as anything other than childish behaviour?

As far as the claims that I've never been in a fight before ... really, how old are you? How is it possible to have a cordial discussion with someone who thinks on such a base level?

My claim was that Hordichuk's a middleweight (subjective), and that he'll lose more often than not against heavyweights (fact). He also doesn't tend to fight top heavyweights often (fact). I don't claim my opinion is fact: that I categorise him as a middleweight is indeed my perspective. But there are no facts categorising weight classes of fighters, so obviously that's a subjective opinion. If we add disclaimers to every comment we make, posts would be crazy long.

Anyway, this is all irrelevant at this point. I've proven that Hordichuk's not a very good fighter, and that he's often outclassed when fighting heavies. And he rarely fights good heavies at that.
"And he rarely fights good heavies at that"

After posting a record in which he fights 20 times against what you consider to be "good heavies", in 27 recorded fights.

You have proven absolutely nothing on Hordichuk's quality as a fighter, other than the fact that you rely solely on the W and L record from hockeyfights.

BGL won all of his fights. I guess by definition he's automatically more useful to a team than a guy who has a more modest record?

Oh, and let me try the hockeyfutures exercise with another HW, Krys Barch

Fights against good HW: Parros (L) Orr (L) Boll (D) Bissonnette (L) Belak (L) Janssen (W) Boulton (D) Vandermeer (L) Thornton (L) Thornton (L) Boulton (L) Carkner (L) Engelland (L) Vandermeer (D) Clowe (L) Thornton (L) Janssen (W) Thornton (W) Parros (W) Shelley (W) Rosehill (W)
Fights against bad HW: Stortini (W) Sestito (L) (W) McLeod
Fights against MW: Prust (W) Thorburn (L) Asham (L) Mayers (W)

Record against good HWs: 5 - 12 - 3
Record against bad HWs: 2 - 1 - 0
Record against MWs: 2 - 2 - 0
Total: 9 - 15 - 3

Duh, Krys Barch is not an HW I guess...


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02-11-2013, 09:09 PM
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Travis Moyen is a lazy gutless puke and White can't win a fight, Boyle can do better. Anyway he seemed pretty intimidating in the playoffs. He did something wich is more than Moyen can do.
White is far from a scrub fighter. He never got manhandled and he rarely looks bad.

Moen is not a lazy gutless puke. He's just a bit too soft for what he can do.

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02-11-2013, 09:19 PM
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Travis Moyen is a lazy gutless puke and White can't win a fight, Boyle can do better. Anyway he seemed pretty intimidating in the playoffs. He did something wich is more than Moyen can do.
How soon people forget three years of production from Moen.


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I'm pretty sure Bordeleau will just sign with the Avs, he just made a breaktrough in the league and will hang to any kind of opportunity to stay there.
Funny Bordeleau hardly ever fought in the QMJHL.

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02-11-2013, 09:47 PM
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Let's get a 4th line composed of:

Letourneau-Leblond/Kenopka/Bordeleau

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why we talk about Boyle? The guy can't fight to save is life. Hall Gill look like Tyson compare to him. Both Moyen and White can kick the **** out of him. We should try to acquire Gallant and Haley so they could continue to call us smurf but it would be crazy. One smurf that can fight any heavyweight and the other who is the middleweight champ.

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02-11-2013, 10:15 PM
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Let's get a 4th line composed of:

Letourneau-Leblond/Kenopka/Bordeleau
where do i sign

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Let's get a 4th line composed of:

Letourneau-Leblond/Kenopka/Bordeleau
Lacks of Arthyukin

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How soon people forget three years of production from Moen.
Moyen has been disapointing to me the whole time. He was not what I thought he was.

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Wasted roster spot

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I was looking at McGratten profil on Hockeydb...

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2004-05 Binghamton Senators 71GP 7G 1A 8Pts 551Pim
Ist that even possible?

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Lacks of Arthyukin
Arthyukin suck

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Maybe Ian Schultz could be a solution down the road.


He is now playing in Utah and has 11 points in 22 games and 110 pim.

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How soon people forget three years of production from Moen.
Could not have said it better myself
Some memories around here are short, one bad week and years of service are wiped away?
LOL WOW

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Maybe Ian Schultz could be a solution down the road.


He is now playing in Utah and has 11 points in 22 games and 110 pim.
Isn't he 6'1 or 6'2? That's not really a heavyweight unless he's the 2nd coming of Domi or Langdon.

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Let's get a 4th line composed of:

Letourneau-Leblond/Kenopka/Bordeleau
In an ideal world, I'd replace Leblond with Artukyin.

Artukyin/Kenopka/Bordeleau

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Schultz was a killer in Junior, just never took being a pro seriously and developed an affinity for cheeseburgers. He's not an option now, time to draft a guy like Samuel Morin for the future. Should be able to get him in the second round with one of the 3 picks. Adds a whole lot of size, nastiness and skill from the back.

And it's time we started drafting some big time power forwards that can mix it up and play. Who's our last one? Corson? We gave away LeClair.

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In an ideal world, I'd replace Leblond with Artukyin.

Artukyin/Kenopka/Bordeleau
if Arthyukin had any heart he'd be in the NHL right now making 3 Mil a year...

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Could not have said it better myself
Some memories around here are short, one bad week and years of service are wiped away?
LOL WOW
Go back to read all my posts on Moyen, I never liked him. Moyen hockey player, can do some stuff on the PK. That's it.

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02-12-2013, 06:19 AM
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Go back to read all my posts on Moyen, I never liked him. Moyen hockey player, can do some stuff on the PK. That's it.
Moyen, you mean average?

Sounds fine for the 4th line.

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02-12-2013, 06:30 AM
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It couldent hurt to have a big body, there needed to protect stars, calm the other teams pests, and look awsome when they duke it out.

Just my 2 cents

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Robinson has. I'm quite certain he has.

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Correct, Dave Hutchinson in L.A., but, he didn't lose often.

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"And he rarely fights good heavies at that"

After posting a record in which he fights 20 times against what you consider to be "good heavies", in 27 recorded fights.
I wrote 'good' heavies to identify those that were legitimate heavies -- not that they were good quality. I ought to have clarified why I marked it as " 'good' ". The differentiation between 'good' and 'bad' in that listing had more to do with categorisation than with quality (Rupp, for example, is a 'heavy' according to size, but he's really not a heavy enforcer in the same way as a Parros).

Hordichuk doesnt fight quality heavyweights often. And when he does, he loses. On his fight card over the last few years, he's fought Kassian three times, Reaves once, Carkner once, Thornton once, and McGratton once. He lost each of those fights. He beat Orr, but it wasn't a definitive win. On the whole, he's pretty clearly overmatched when fighting big and/or quality heavyweights. I don't see why you're disputing this simple point.

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Saturday's game has not made me change my mind. Yes, the Habs need a heavyweight enforcer but not just anyone. Someone who at the very least, can skate and take a regular shift without hurting the team on the defensive side.

I miss Staubitz...

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