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02-11-2013, 10:08 PM
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Who would've thunk we would beat the Flyers 5-2 before the season started? GO LEAFS GO! And thanks Burke

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Let's spread the thanks around here..

Thanks to JFJ for:

Initially bringing in Dallas Eakins who helped develop most of the following players
Matt Frattin
James Reimer
Nikolai Kulemin
Leo Komarov
Carl Gunnarsson
Kolbinian Holzer

Thanks to Fletch for:

Stealing Grabovski from Montreal

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Are you kidding man? JFJ traded Tuuka Rask for Andrew Raycroft... Do you know how bad of a trade that was? He made some decent draft choices that are just starting to come through but damn he was an awful, awful GM. The top line when he left after 3 years was Blake-Stajan-Ponikoroski, no prospects, no talent, no depth. Burke had nothing but a steaming pile of crap to start with.
So why are 6 of his players still on this team if he left nothing to the almighty Burke . There's also VS and Tlusty who are playing well .

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The firing still bothers me, I really wish they would have given him another year, especially considering Colangelo has had 7 years . But at least the philosophy on how to build the team didnt change with Nonis, and I find Nonis to be less stubborn than Burke and maybe more rationale at times, ie wasting no time getting rid of Connoly and Lombardi, whereas Burke wouldn't admit to a mistake too quickly, ie waiting an extra year to fire Wilson. But he started with nothing, he put the Leafs in a good financial sutuation and IMO he put together the pieces to make this team competitive for years to come.

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Burkie will get his praise if the wheels don't fall off and we make the playoffs.

Don't think they will though. We're playing 4 line hockey, and not just having Kes and Lupes do all the heavylifting.

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So why are 6 of his players still on this team if he left nothing to the almighty Burke . There's also VS and Tlusty who are playing well .
True, he did leave behind some good prospects that he drafted, just wish he didn't trade so many picks away. But the Rask trade is a killer, I hate the Bruins lol.

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02-11-2013, 10:23 PM
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Let's spread the thanks around here..

Thanks to JFJ for:

Initially bringing in Dallas Eakins who helped develop most of the following players
Matt Frattin
James Reimer
Nikolai Kulemin
Leo Komarov
Carl Gunnarsson
Kolbinian Holzer

Thanks to Fletch for:

Stealing Grabovski from Montreal
I'd also like to Thank Dave Nonis for:

1. NOT TRADING KARDI +++ FOR LUONGO
2. Getting rid of Connolly/Lombardi
3. Resigning Cody Franson

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So why are 6 of his players still on this team if he left nothing to the almighty Burke . There's also VS and Tlusty who are playing well .
To be fair, out of the Leafs 7 draft pick in 06' there are 6 currently playing in the NHL. Tlusty, Kulemin, Reimer, Stalberg, Ruegsegger (sp? - BUST), Komarov, and Holzer.

I would HIGHLY credit Morrison for his contribution to the current roster rather than JFJ. Burke's fingerprints however are all over this team.


Also for everyone talking about Burke and his legacy here, we still have yet to see exactly what that legacy is.

Clearly this team is not a finished product. And we have many Burke picks coming up in the system. I credit Burke for giving this team a bright future. How bright, we will have to wait and see.

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Is this a joke?
Was waiting for you to come in here.

The Van Riemsdyk trade is currently making Burke out to be a genious.

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02-11-2013, 10:26 PM
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I'd also like to Thank Dave Nonis for:

1. NOT TRADING KARDI +++ FOR LUONGO
2. Getting rid of Connolly/Lombardi
3. Resigning Cody Franson
And

4. Getting Frazer "crazy eyes" McLaren off waivers

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and

4. Getting frazer "crazy eyes" mclaren off waivers
yup!

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Was waiting for you to come in here.

The Van Riemsdyk trade is currently making Burke out to be a genious.
Burkes trades (minus Kessel) have been outstanding - no denying that.


But suggesting his Handprints are all over our early season success is laughable

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Burkes trades (minus Kessel) have been outstanding - no denying that.


But suggesting his Handprints are all over our early season success is laughable
your wrong this is Burkes team through and through

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Maybe he should have fired his best friend sooner and he would have been kept around.

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Let's spread the thanks around here..

Thanks to JFJ for:

Initially bringing in Dallas Eakins who helped develop most of the following players
Matt Frattin
James Reimer
Nikolai Kulemin
Leo Komarov
Carl Gunnarsson
Kolbinian Holzer

Thanks to Fletch for:

Stealing Grabovski from Montreal
Burke signed all those players and gave them their shot! Without Burke who knows if they would be in the NHL.

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Was waiting for you to come in here.

The Van Riemsdyk trade is currently making Burke out to be a genious.
He was already a genius with the Lupul/Gardiner trade.

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Maybe he should have fired his best friend sooner and he would have been kept around.
Then we wouldnt have Carlyle today

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Any one that beleives they'd be watching the same team if Burke hadn't been fired - needs to wake up.

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Then we wouldnt have Carlyle today
Plenty of coaches could have done better. Carlyle was one of many possible choices for the past few years.

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Was waiting for you to come in here.

The Van Riemsdyk trade is currently making Burke out to be a genious.
Love this trade. He's really looking like he could be a 65 point winger that can play in any situation.

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Any one that beleives they'd be watching the same team if Burke hadn't been fired - needs to wake up.
wrong again.

The only difference would be Fraser McLaren

That is it!

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But would Burke trade away Lomobardi + put Connolly in waivers? Not so sure. Btw that Lombardi trade was a steal he's been injured for 10 games already. Kadri and Frattin might not be playing with the leafs right now if Burke was in charge.

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wrong again.

The only difference would be Fraser McLaren

That is it!
Connolly and Lombardi...

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But would Burke trade away Lomobardi + put Connolly in waivers? Not so sure. Btw that Lombardi trade was a steal he's been injured for 10 games already. Kadri and Frattin might not be playing with the leafs right now if Burke was in charge.
Burke has said a million times he lets his COACH pick the team and so does Nonis.

Carlyle wanted them gone and Burke would of done the same.

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To be fair, out of the Leafs 7 draft pick in 06' there are 6 currently playing in the NHL. Tlusty, Kulemin, Reimer, Stalberg, Ruegsegger (sp? - BUST), Komarov, and Holzer.

I would HIGHLY credit Morrison for his contribution to the current roster rather than JFJ. Burke's fingerprints however are all over this team.


Also for everyone talking about Burke and his legacy here, we still have yet to see exactly what that legacy is.

Clearly this team is not a finished product. And we have many Burke picks coming up in the system. I credit Burke for giving this team a bright future. How bright, we will have to wait and see.
You should give both GM's credit for there draft record or neither .

Most GM's don't do much scouting outside of potential 1st round picks and even then they would have much less viewings than there scouts . I do believe they dictate the type of players they want especially in the first 2-3 rounds . I don't think it was a coincidence we didn't draft any Rusians or any Euros in the first 2 rounds under Burke .

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