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02-11-2013, 09:17 PM
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He's tied with Saku Koivu for +/-. It means nothing, but it's hilarious.

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02-11-2013, 09:18 PM
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Fraser has played so well lately really does great job boxing out the front of the net

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02-11-2013, 09:19 PM
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He is keeping it simple. Hopefully he keeps it up, should get more comfortable with experience.

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02-11-2013, 09:26 PM
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we are 13 games in. Way to early to make a thread like this, but he has impressed, i believe he has benefited from a Defense first system.

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02-11-2013, 09:38 PM
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imo fraser is that Dman we need for a #6 who will give u good minutes and if the going gets tough he knows what to do.... reminds me of the days when we had belak on the blueline

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02-11-2013, 09:45 PM
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good option as number 6, but still to early in the season

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02-11-2013, 09:48 PM
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good stable guy for franson.

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02-11-2013, 11:15 PM
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If you understand the coaching differences you're looking at with Carlyle compared to Wilson, you probably realize that these AHL call-ups aren't just suddenly a lot better than they looked in the past. Their forwards are making their jobs much easier with close support. Under Wilson the forwards would often take off up the ice while the defenseman still had the puck under pressure. This is going to make a lot of pretty decent defensemen look like they're handling a live grenade. If at any time in their own zone a defenseman recovering the puck under pressure doesnt have an easy pass option, there is a coaching problem.

That, and the fact that Carlyle isn't sending these guys down or scratching them after one poor showing. They're getting a chance to improve in the NHL now.

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02-11-2013, 11:36 PM
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The guy has been solid; Holzer is also improving each game. The guy has saved at least 4 goals at the line.

Kostka also deserves some props; he reminds me of Liles.

There has to come a time where Bozak stops being crapped on. The guy has always been well above average for us. It's not his fault he is on the top line.

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02-11-2013, 11:39 PM
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Fraser has played so well lately really does great job boxing out the front of the net
He's really just good at boxing in general

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02-11-2013, 11:51 PM
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Played great against Philly, seems to get better every game. Glad to see and hope Frazer can keep it up!

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02-12-2013, 12:38 AM
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If you understand the coaching differences you're looking at with Carlyle compared to Wilson, you probably realize that these AHL call-ups aren't just suddenly a lot better than they looked in the past. Their forwards are making their jobs much easier with close support. Under Wilson the forwards would often take off up the ice while the defenseman still had the puck under pressure. This is going to make a lot of pretty decent defensemen look like they're handling a live grenade. If at any time in their own zone a defenseman recovering the puck under pressure doesnt have an easy pass option, there is a coaching problem.

That, and the fact that Carlyle isn't sending these guys down or scratching them after one poor showing. They're getting a chance to improve in the NHL now.
Amen, Thank you someone finally points out the obvious. These AHL players that are 26-27 and just getting their ahl shots now do not just get better overnight. They are playing well though and im happy for them.

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02-12-2013, 08:36 AM
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Fraser has benefitted from the system in place and he should continue to do so as long as he and the rest of the team continue to buy into the system. Fraser is tied for first in +/- which is a stat that I don't read much into but when people look at the stats list, I bet a lot of people will ask themselves 'who the hell is Mark Fraser?'.

He plays a quiet game and that's exactly how you know he's playing well.

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02-12-2013, 08:56 AM
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I'm not sure how impressed by him that I am (+/- is 100% worthless), but Carlyle is impressed. Fraser's pk time has risen dramatically the last couple games. To me, he's a solid/average 3rd pair guy when you've got pretty heavy minutes on the top 2 on his side.

Really, the most impressive thing is that Carlyle has apparently found ways to use his depth in pretty much perfect situations. The Grabo line and the Phaneuf pair eat up a ton of minutes against top-end talent, leaving room and favourable match-ups for the things like the Kadri line and the Fraser/Franson pair that make them look good. That isn't trying to take too much away from those players, using your opportunities is what the game's about, but I think the lower guys owe RC a ton of the credit for giving them tasks they can handle and excel at.

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02-12-2013, 09:09 AM
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Didn't realize he was a +5 last night!

Guy is a keeper. If the Leafs are forced to waiver him, another team would snatch him up in a matter of minutes.

I'd probably waiver Komisarek instead, or try to deal Liles, who isn't doing much. Colorado might want him back, if the return is cheap. Franson is playing well and looks like a keeper also.

You win with guy's who play like Fraser. Quietly effective.

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02-12-2013, 09:13 AM
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He's on 590 right now, seems like such a down to earth, intelligent man; really, really well spoken man.

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02-12-2013, 09:15 AM
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Phanuef a -8. Trade him, worst captain.

Fraser leads league in +/-. It's a useless stat.

Still can't believe people buy into the best fans in the league bs.

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02-12-2013, 09:18 AM
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I love having an enforcer type on the blue line. Definitely makes people think twice about taking liberties on the goalie.

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02-12-2013, 10:45 AM
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If this guy can consistently do what hes been doing on a night in night out basis he is forsure a keeper. Finding a big, steady shut down defense men who is willing to drop the gloves and stick up for teammates is extremely rare. This is kind of what we paid Komo 4 million for, and it did not really pan out. Not saying this guy deserves 4 mill, but he is deff a keeper if he consistently does what he is doing. He also is really good on the PK.

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02-12-2013, 10:48 AM
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So far so good. He just has to use his minutes effectivly and play effectivly and he can stay.

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02-12-2013, 10:58 AM
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How did he become a Leaf?

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02-12-2013, 11:03 AM
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How did he become a Leaf?
Drafted by Devils, traded to Anaheim and then a few months later, I believe it was a one for one trade where the Leafs sent Dale Mitchell to Anaheim and Anaheim sent Fraser to us.

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I always find it hilarious when people say +/- is a useless stat. No, it's not. Throughout a 82 game season (or 48 for that matter) it's very useful IMO. Yes you're going to get a couple unwarranted +'s and a couple unwarranted -'s but more or less everything will work it's way out.

It's judgement on how well your team does 5 on 5 while you're on the ice... how the hell is it completely useless?

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How did he become a Leaf?
Who would of thought that this:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...581&highlight=

would become a stable defender for the Leafs.

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02-12-2013, 11:08 AM
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Drafted by Devils, traded to Anaheim and then a few months later, I believe it was a one for one trade where the Leafs sent Dale Mitchell to Anaheim and Anaheim sent Fraser to us.
Thanks, seems like he is turning into a solid bottom pairing guy.

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