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02-11-2013, 11:02 AM
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Keep dreamin...

maybe a 3rd at the most.....
Ok, the Rangers simply pass and hold onto him. They don't need to move him. He was the 3c just 6 days ago. I stated what would be needed in order for the Rangers to move him.

Paul Gaustad got a 1st at last years trade deadline. He was a UFA at years end. Boyle has a year left after this year. Similar stats, playing styles, strengths.

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He signed in Finland three weeks ago.
And your point? He'd happily ditch Finland for an NHL gig.

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Just checked his stats, Ryan White is 63% on draws this year, and is a right handed shot. Problem is he need to get his act together.

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Eller? Diaz +?
a 3rd + a B level prospect is probably the best offer I'd give,
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thats true, but making trades just to improve the face-offs aspect of the game is silly when the team is average at best.
This. Pleks and DD were near 50% last year, not ideal, but good enough for the players they are on the team they're on. Adding some 4th liner who otherwise isn't good enough to contribute isn't really a solution. Long-term, they need to work with these guys, try to get them up there, get the young guys like White, Eller, and Galchenyuk some instruction and training, make them work on it. And if nobody can ultimately progress by the time the team reaches a higher level of competitiveness, *then* maybe it becomes an issue.

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David Steckel for a 4th round pick

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02-11-2013, 12:38 PM
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Why? just why?


dont go panic after a few losses. We knew the team would not be much better than last season. Starting 6-2 was a fluke IMO . Be patient with the team.
Panic? I'm one of the few posters who doesn't panic.

But our centres suck at faceoffs. They did last year too. That's a huge aspect of the game we can never rely on.

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thats true, but making trades just to improve the face-offs aspect of the game is silly when the team is average at best.
Seems like you're the one hitting the panic button. I think this team is better than average. And it's not just a trade to improve faceoffs, hence that it would be at least a 3rd liner.

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Brian Boyle?
Interesting. Not quite as good at faceoffs as I want, but well above average. Brings nice size too. What would he cost? Prospects? Picks? Roster players?

EDIT: Saw your post. No way he gets Diaz, a 20-minute guy who has 9-points in 11-games on D. As for Eller, also doubt it although it does seem that MT doesn't really like him. Eller a very good two way hockey player, his only problem really is faceoffs.

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To the OP, if he isn't a 4th liner, than who are you going? DD,Eller, Plek? We already have a log jam and centre.
I'd move DD, Eller, or Galchy to the wing. Simple solution.

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This. Pleks and DD were near 50% last year, not ideal, but good enough for the players they are on the team they're on. Adding some 4th liner who otherwise isn't good enough to contribute isn't really a solution. Long-term, they need to work with these guys, try to get them up there, get the young guys like White, Eller, and Galchenyuk some instruction and training, make them work on it. And if nobody can ultimately progress by the time the team reaches a higher level of competitiveness, *then* maybe it becomes an issue.
Exactly why I said I want someone who can compete at 3rd line level, minimum. Even if it's someone who can skate on the 4th line but play a regular shift (like our 4th line has been doing), I'm a happy camper. Like the suggestion of Boyle above, it was prospects/picks/Weber/White;

Bourque - Plekanec - Gionta
Pacioretty - Galchenyuk - Gallagher
Eller - Desharnais - Cole
Prust - Boyle - Moen


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Panic? I'm one of the few posters who doesn't panic.

But our centres suck at faceoffs. They did last year too. That's a huge aspect of the game we can never rely on.


Seems like you're the one hitting the panic button. I think this team is better than average. And it's not just a trade to improve faceoffs, hence that it would be at least a 3rd liner.


Interesting. Not quite as good at faceoffs as I want, but well above average. Brings nice size too. What would he cost? Prospects? Picks? Roster players?

EDIT: Saw your post. No way he gets Diaz, a 20-minute guy who has 9-points in 11-games on D. As for Eller, also doubt it although it does seem that MT doesn't really like him. Eller a very good two way hockey player, his only problem really is faceoffs.


I'd move DD, Eller, or Galchy to the wing. Simple solution.


Exactly why I said I want someone who can compete at 3rd line level, minimum. Even if it's someone who can skate on the 4th line but play a regular shift (like our 4th line has been doing), I'm a happy camper. Like the suggestion of Boyle above, it was prospects/picks/Weber/White;

Bourque - Plekanec - Gionta
Pacioretty - Galchenyuk - Gallagher
Eller - Desharnais - Cole
Prust - Boyle - Moen
Exceptional faceoff players available:

Manny Malhotra - one of the league's elite
Maxim Lapierre - Hab fans already know what he brings to the table
Jordan Schroeder - a pleasant surprise this season on how good he is at faceofffs as well as playmaking.

What does Montreal Canadians have that would interest the Canucks to trade any of these players?

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02-12-2013, 12:48 AM
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Exceptional faceoff players available:

Manny Malhotra - one of the league's elite
Maxim Lapierre - Hab fans already know what he brings to the table
Jordan Schroeder - a pleasant surprise this season on how good he is at faceofffs as well as playmaking.

What does Montreal Canadians have that would interest the Canucks to trade any of these players?
Wouldn't trade Schroeder but either of Malhotra or Lapierre should definitely be available. I'd look to acquire Weber or White, unless we can work something out for Moen.

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Jordan Schroeder would be too perfect to be a Habs forward.

And no. Manny is not available, Canucks fans underestimate how important his face-off wins are

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Justin Abdelkader is a 52-54% guy on face-offs though I think he's better as a Winger and might be considered a 4th liner even though he's playing on the 3rd line right now in Detroit.

He's not the best offensively but he's our leading hitter and kills penalties.

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Jordan Schroeder would be too perfect to be a Habs forward.

And no. Manny is not available, Canucks fans underestimate how important his face-off wins are
He is. UFA at season's end and not playing particularly well for us. Once we have Kesler back, his use will become even more redundant. I would rather clear his salary for someone more diverse than a faceoff specialist.

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gaustad and a 2nd for rene bourque

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We basically need an upgrade at center period. Before you respond i know we already have pleks, dd, eller and galy plus white etc... If you go by position on our team, center is our soft spot. If you compare our centers to the other 29 teams, I think were in the bottom 10. The problem is that there are 10-15 teams wanting to upgrade at center. I doubt someone is gonna trade us a top center. Free agency is a possibility but it's gonna be competitive to say the least. Galyenchuk is the only keeper longterm. Eller should really be showing more and might stick as a third line center. Pleks has been our best player for the past 2-3 yrs but it's not been from gritty play. I love what dd has accomplished but he would be the first to be shopped. None of our top 4 are difficult to play against.

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I think of all the posts. Stoll is probably the best option. He has struggled but is still a capable 3C.

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Exceptional faceoff players available:

Manny Malhotra - one of the league's elite
Maxim Lapierre - Hab fans already know what he brings to the table
Jordan Schroeder - a pleasant surprise this season on how good he is at faceofffs as well as playmaking.

What does Montreal Canadians have that would interest the Canucks to trade any of these players?
Schroeder isn't avaliable. I like what I have seen, he has revitalized Raymond's Career. Then if he fails as a 3C for the playoffs our backup plan is Lappierre, so no to him either.

And we need Manny, no to him.

None are available, unless there is an overpayment that helps now IMO.

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Jordan Schroeder would be too perfect to be a Habs forward.

And no. Manny is not available, Canucks fans underestimate how important his face-off wins are
This^

Kesler can't be relied on for all the defensive responsibility, as we saw in 2011 it wears him down too much, having Manny would greatly cut into Kesler's defensive/PK/Faceoff time.

I agree with you, Canuck fans underestimate his importance.

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gaustad and a 2nd for rene bourque
Or just Goose for a 1st! There's a precedent trade out there!

http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/76...real-canadiens

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