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02-12-2013, 03:52 AM
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Well, to sum it up:

1st goal phoenix: Blatant Error by O'Byrne who plays the puck right to the PH player.
You mean Varly for not being tight against the post. From a goalie perspective, that goal is not acceptable at the NHL level.

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02-12-2013, 03:57 AM
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we are not one of the most dynamic teams in the league, we are terrible and can barely ever score at all.

why would you ever want to become a new fan of this trash? the management is a joke and isnt going to improve. the roster is just going to keep treading water if not get worse due to all these injuries (Who knows how Duchene/Landeskog/Johnson will be after all these injuries).. i could go on and on about how awful the team is from top to bottom. be a fan of a real franchise instead man.
If you are so against people becoming fans of a team, why are you a fan of said team? You make all fans look bad. It's one thing to be speaking out against what you don't like. It's completely different to tell others not to become fans. Go find a rock and crawl under it for the rest of the season or something if you can't take a few losing years.

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02-12-2013, 05:01 AM
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You mean Varly for not being tight against the post. From a goalie perspective, that goal is not acceptable at the NHL level.
The resulting hickup in Varly's play wouldn't have happened without O'Byrne turning it over in his own zone.

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02-12-2013, 05:07 AM
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The resulting hickup in Varly's play wouldn't have happened without O'Byrne turning it over in his own zone.
And it wouldn't have been a goal if Varly was even remotely in position. You know that adage: your goalie is your last line of defense? Yeah, may as well give them the whole net. Defenses are going to make mistakes. That's when it's up to the goalie, especially on a routine play like a wrap around, to make a save. He didn't, therefore, he gets the blame.

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02-12-2013, 05:40 AM
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And it wouldn't have been a goal if Varly was even remotely in position. You know that adage: your goalie is your last line of defense? Yeah, may as well give them the whole net. Defenses are going to make mistakes. That's when it's up to the goalie, especially on a routine play like a wrap around, to make a save. He didn't, therefore, he gets the blame.
So are goalies...

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02-12-2013, 05:58 AM
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So are goalies...
Never said they don't. This mistake is on Varly though.

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02-12-2013, 06:43 AM
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Anyone mind giving me a recap of the 3rd/OT? I decided to pass out before the end of the 2nd when we were up 2-1 and were playing better than normal hockey for our team.

I thought our whole defense was actually playing well, specifically SOB's pinches were good for once, Hejda with strong defensive plays and EJ was all over the place (Barrie too, in a good way).

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Never said they don't. This mistake is on Varly though.
Most of the time, goals against are the result of a team collapse. In this case, specifically both O'Byrne and Varly. Not one or the other, both of them.


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02-12-2013, 06:50 AM
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Just watched the replay, the deciding goal was terrible bad luck. I don't want to blame the referee at all but probably he should have jumped instead of just lifting his right foot. Bad coincidence.

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02-12-2013, 07:19 AM
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Anyone mind giving me a recap of the 3rd/OT?
2nd shift and Hanzal hits Johnson and Hanzal's shoulder hit Johnson's jaw.
Johnson skated off after the shift and destroyed the bench in anger (= probably some time off). Didn't return.
A few shifts later Duchene was injured after being hit by Moss(?) infront of our goal, seems like an injury to the leg. Returned later but clearly not 100%.
A few shifts later Hejduk took a hard shot into his arm/hand, but returned and looked OK.
Then about 9mins left and McGinn gets a breakaway. Stone slashes him with two hands on the legs and McGinn falls and stays down for some time. Stone didn't get a penalty. McGinn returned later on, but didn't appear to be 100%.
A minute later OEL scores when Zanon didn't know what to do. Varly should've stopped the shot nevertheless.
Then a few minutes before the end Stone crosschecks McLeod in the ribs in front of their net. McLeod is very slow to get up and doesn't return.
Avs go on PP, but don't capitalize.
After the PP SOB dives and gets Moss a penalty. Avs can't capitalize in regulation, and neither in the remaining 1.40 in OT.
A minute from the end Zanon chips the puck off the boards behind our goal and the Ref stands in the way and the puck bounces straight to a Phoenix player who passes it to Doan who is camping in the slot. Goal, and Haynes is very pissed.

That's basically it.

Recap of 3rd+OT:
Injured and didn't come back: Johnson, McLeod
Injured and came back not 100%: Duchene, McGinn
Injured, but looked OK: Hejduk
Stone wanted us to tank for Jones by injuring 2 of our players (McGinn, McLeod)
Varly let in a softy and Zanon can't defend
Avs couldn't score on PP
Ref giftwrapped the OT goal for the Yotes

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02-12-2013, 07:39 AM
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Thanks for the summary... sounds like a typical game in Avs country.

I'm pretty pissed EJ got injured though. I'm starting to wonder if the style game Sacco plays is what keeps causing our injuries. I've seen people bring it up before in the past and it might have some credibility the longer we keep seeing so many stupid injuries with him at the helm.

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02-12-2013, 08:22 AM
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Too lazy to check, who won the avatar bet?

Edit: After a quick check, none of you did. Fail.


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02-12-2013, 08:34 AM
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Too lazy to check, who won the avatar bet?

Edit: After a quick check, none of you did. Fail.
Who took the first Avs penalty?

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02-12-2013, 08:41 AM
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Who took the first Avs penalty?
Sgarbossa I believe.

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02-12-2013, 08:43 AM
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Sgarbossa I believe.
Yup @ 5:03 in the 1st.

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02-12-2013, 08:49 AM
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Yup @ 5:03 in the 1st.
Yeah, I did a quick glance as well, and only Freudian guessed Sgarbossa and a penalty, but his guess was "Too Many Men" served by Sgarbossa, I wonder if the person who made the bet will accept that or not.

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02-12-2013, 08:55 AM
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Yeah, I did a quick glance as well, and only Freudian guessed Sgarbossa and a penalty, but his guess was "Too Many Men" served by Sgarbossa, I wonder if the person who made the bet will accept that or not.
I was thinking about it, but I believe that call would be considered a bench minor. A penalty assessed to the team, not a player.

But the same bet will stand for the next game I suppose.

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02-12-2013, 09:07 AM
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I'd be surprised if EJ has a concussion. I can't imagine you smashing things around on the way to the dressing room if that was the case.

My guess is he had something already bothering him (shoulder, chest) and he knew it got worse by Hanzals hit.

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I'd be surprised if EJ has a concussion. I can't imagine you smashing things around on the way to the dressing room if that was the case.

My guess is he had something already bothering him (shoulder, chest) and he knew it got worse by Hanzals hit.
I was thinking broken jaw.

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I was thinking broken jaw.
It crossed my mind too, but is he really that much of a boss to finish his shift if that happens?

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It crossed my mind too, but is he really that much of a boss to finish his shift if that happens?

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02-12-2013, 10:02 AM
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Lets trade stazz and our 1st to columbus for Murray and be done with it. Tired of arguing over centers that play solid or don't play at all.
That would be an insanely bad trade. Our 1st round pick this season should be kept under lock and key....maybe add even a couple of security guards.

I'm afraid I've never quite seen all the hoopla with Ryan Murray, he'll be a solid pro and a top 4 guy but I don't see him becoming a franchise guy. I'm pretty sure the blue jackets messed up...AGAIN.

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That's exactly what I mean when I say the rebuild has failed. Now consider the fact that in a year and a half probably neither Stastny nor O'reilly will be on this team, what exactly will we have as the fruits of our labor these past 4 years.

Duchene
EJ
Landeskog
Varly
Whatever we get back for ROR

I doubt we'll get a core player back for Stastny the way he's playing.

That's really not much. We'll be a bad team for a long, long time at this rate. But to me a big part of the problem is our **** coaching, management not being willing to pay to retain guys, overpaying in trades for two of the core pieces we do have, and most of all failing to put our young guys in a position to succeed and develop.
I am not sure how anyone can say that the 'rebuild has failed' when it's not even over yet. Have the Avs really shown any signs that they are ready to 'go for it' in any way, shape or form? Nahhh!

The best and most obvious example is that we still have this moron coaching our team. If WE, a collective group of hockey fans with enough hockey knowledge to make that assessment know that he's a terrible coach, don't you think that the front office of the team does as well??

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It crossed my mind too, but is he really that much of a boss to finish his shift if that happens?
That would be sick.

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Thanks for the summary... sounds like a typical game in Avs country.

I'm pretty pissed EJ got injured though. I'm starting to wonder if the style game Sacco plays is what keeps causing our injuries. I've seen people bring it up before in the past and it might have some credibility the longer we keep seeing so many stupid injuries with him at the helm.
Remember the hit on Wilson by Lapierre/Burrows last season, where Wilson's head got crunched between their shoulder pad and the glass? It reminded me a lot of that, but less dirty.


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