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Next great Swedish defenseman?

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02-12-2013, 01:02 AM
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Watching this thread was fun. Most of people didn't include Brodin in their lists.

Would be interesting to see the top 5-10 now.

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02-12-2013, 01:13 AM
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Watching this thread was fun. Most of people didn't include Brodin in their lists.

Would be interesting to see the top 5-10 now.
Interesting bump. If you consider what the Swedish national/Olympic defense could look like in the coming years, it could be scary, and even the best in the world:

OEL
Ekholm
Brodin
Larsson
Lindholm
Hedman
Erixon, Rundblad and others. Could be really scary good.

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02-12-2013, 01:17 AM
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Interesting bump. If you consider what the Swedish national/Olympic defense could look like in the coming years, it could be scary, and even the best in the world:

OEL
Ekholm
Brodin
Larsson
Lindholm
Hedman
Erixon, Rundblad and others. Could be really scary good.
E. Karlsson?

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02-12-2013, 01:21 AM
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One man, Mattias Bäckman, will blow everyone away when he makes it to the NHL.

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02-12-2013, 01:29 AM
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Top 5 in no particular order

OEL
Brodin
Hedman
Larsson
E. Karlsson

HM: Lindholm, Klefbom

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Interesting bump. If you consider what the Swedish national/Olympic defense could look like in the coming years, it could be scary, and even the best in the world:

OEL
Ekholm
Brodin
Larsson
Lindholm
Hedman
Erixon, Rundblad and others. Could be really scary good.
Edler - Karlsson as a top pairing would be deadly.

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02-12-2013, 01:38 AM
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One man, Mattias Bäckman, will blow everyone away when he makes it to the NHL.


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02-12-2013, 01:51 AM
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02-12-2013, 02:07 AM
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Next great Swedish defenseman? Anybody?

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Mattias Ekholm
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02-12-2013, 02:10 AM
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Top 5 in no particular order

OEL
Brodin
Hedman
Larsson
E. Karlsson

HM: Lindholm, Klefbom
Kronwall?
Edler?
Enstrom?

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02-12-2013, 02:48 AM
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What happened to Rundblad?

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02-12-2013, 03:43 AM
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What happened to Rundblad?
Nothing, he's a 22-year-old offensive defenceman doing well in the AHL. He'll be a full-time NHLer soon enough.

Defencemen usually have a much slower development path than forwards, a lot of them don't really make the NHL until they are 24-25 years old.

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02-12-2013, 04:06 AM
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Nothing, he's a 22-year-old offensive defenceman doing well in the AHL. He'll be a full-time NHLer soon enough.

Defencemen usually have a much slower development path than forwards, a lot of them don't really make the NHL until they are 24-25 years old.
Given he was one of the top prospects, I'm surprised he hasn't made an impact yet.

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02-12-2013, 04:20 AM
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Given he was one of the top prospects, I'm surprised he hasn't made an impact yet.
Rundblad makes alot of stupid decisions which end up as an bad turnover. He chooses offensive over defensive decision. Runblad also played in stacked team and was below average defensively. There was other defenseman covering his defensive faults. His numbers sure was pretty special in SEL but there was many swedish posters who thought that Rundblad has very hard time in NA in the hard pressuring, physical, and fast paced game. Nordic was pretty accurate in his prediction about Rundblad.

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Given he was one of the top prospects, I'm surprised he hasn't made an impact yet.
His defensive issues have been proven bigger to overcome than expected. But from what I understand (and also watching him play a couple of times) he's starting to come around. He's finally a plus player in the AHL and actually holds the best +/- of any defenseman on his team. Good step for someone who was a team worst -18 just a year ago. He's probably never gonna be a top pairing guy, but could see him become a solid top4 with time.

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Watching this thread was fun. Most of people didn't include Brodin in their lists.

Would be interesting to see the top 5-10 now.
A lot of discussion about him however!

It's amazing where the development has gone for these guys:
Karlsson has won the Norris.
Hedman is starting to look like the real deal for Tampa at both ends of the rink.
OEL is a prime D.
Brodin looks about as impressive as a 19 yo possibly could.
Larsson is yet to leave his mark, but he's very sound for a 20 yo and NJ are easing him in.

So let's look beyond them..
1. Lindholm - He's mature well beyond his years. Similar to Brodin he has hockey sense and skating as his greatest tools. Good frame doesn't hurt. Top pairing guy, offensive potential up in the air. Concussions a little worrisome.
2. Klefbom - He was extremely impressive to start the year, but is out for the season with injury. I still think he'll make the NHL in the fall and not look out of place. Fringe top pairing.
3. Erixon - A top defenseman in the AHL. Plays defense about equally good as he plays offense. Probable #3/#4 guy, with some potential for top pairing.
4. Ekholm - Out with injury right now, but very solid first NA year. Intriguing combo of size and offensive skill. Needs to learn how to use his body defensively. Second pairing D type.
5. Rundblad - As I said he's rounding out. Probably will be a good regular, but maybe not as special as one would've thought. Great PP value nontheless.

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02-12-2013, 04:51 AM
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Given he was one of the top prospects, I'm surprised he hasn't made an impact yet.
The issue is that while he's always been really skilled offensively, his defensive game was weak. I think most people who saw him play in Sweden agreed that he would need some time in the AHL.

There's still plenty of time for him to develop into a really good NHL defenceman.

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02-12-2013, 09:43 AM
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Rasmus Andersson is probably the next great one coming up. Playing a regular shift in Allsvenskan as a 16-year-old, not draft eligible until 2015.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=86137


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02-12-2013, 10:00 AM
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Aften seeing Hampus Lindholm play three games at the AHL level, I have every confidence that - if handled properly - he will one day be a Norris candidate.

Very high praise indeed - but he just wowed me that much. His low panic level is really impressive for an 18 year old.

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02-12-2013, 10:10 AM
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Aften seeing Hampus Lindholm play three games at the AHL level, I have every confidence that - if handled properly - he will one day be a Norris candidate.

Very high praise indeed - but he just wowed me that much. His low panic level is really impressive for an 18 year old.
How about a 19 year old playing at that same type of level in the NHL...

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02-12-2013, 10:17 AM
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Hampus Lindholm and Robert Hagg.

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I can only speak for Larsson, but, while he still has some lapses defensively, brings a lot to the table.

Makes good decisions with the puck, rarely turns it over, tries few but well placed 1 or 2 line passes. Plays solid at the point, I find he tries to get it on net often, maybe too often, which has lead to a blocked shot instead of a puck played deep for our great forwards to cycle a few times, but it may be just me.

Been very good without the puck, while not extremely agile, makes up for it with amazing reach and stick checking ability whenever someone tries to go round, also not afraid to take good measured hits, none of them have caught him out of position, his hits have either brought the opposing player down or completely inhabilited him to continue the play or have a chance at the puck, very impressed with his physical play the times he's used it.

Good anticipation with his stick around the crease, lifted sticks and blocked a lot of passes, Devils were trapped for the last minutes on the 3-1 win over pittsburgh and Larsson was on the ice, cut a few dangerous passes and looked very poised for his age and the situation he was facing.

Missed a few checks/assignments, here and there, maybe 2 noticeable mistakes in the last 2-3 games, but is playing solid minutes, and is due for getting PK time soon I presume, he still won't see PP time though, unless DeBoer has a chance to experiment.

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Now we just need a game-breaking forward prospect. William Nylander.

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02-12-2013, 12:11 PM
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Hampus Lindholm and Robert Hagg.
Lindholm looks very promising from what I've seen. I have my doubts about Hägg's defensive game but he has something every swedish D (except Karlsson) lacks - a bomb of a shot.


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Im banking on Brodin

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How about a 19 year old playing at that same type of level in the NHL...
Lindholm hasn't gotten his shot at the NHL but he's been traveling with Anaheim on their road trip so we may see him soon. Hampus was hands down Norfolk's best defender. He looked like a pro and he transitioned to American ice seamlessly. I've got high expectations for his NHL debut.

I'll give kudos to the SEL and Allsvenskan for their defensive development. Fowler spent a few months in the league and he came back playing on a whole new level defensively. They're doing something right out there.

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