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07-07-2006, 01:39 PM
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Well well I've got it now.

I never thought Mr. Gainey could hatch such a diabolical plan.
Think about it, makes a lot of offers, signs none, forces a ton of GM's to overpay and hand out long term contracts. The Habs will be sitting pretty come next year. Watch Boston get Shanahan for 3-4 years at 5.3 mil or so. Yes for a 37year old. At 4 mil or so for 1-2 years Shanahan could have helped the Habs but not at over 5 for over 2 years it's too much again.

It looks like Gainey is setting up a Hab Dynasty in 2-3 years. every one else will be over-commited for years. Watch a bunch of other GM's try the Lou Lamerello way of getting out of CAP trouble, Tell everyone that your underacievers all decided to retire and walk away from thier millions in contracts just for the heck of it.
Leaving you with a completely free hand for your CAP.

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07-07-2006, 01:43 PM
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guys, its Shanny really worth of that amount of money? If he makes again 41 goals=yes, but still i think Bob should not give that much money to him

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07-07-2006, 01:47 PM
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We shouldn't give him more than 4 millions a year, IMHO... (which makes about 2 left for him...)

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07-07-2006, 01:54 PM
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who says he hasn't? someone call Dandeneault
I'll let chfans do the calling ...

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07-07-2006, 01:57 PM
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If Shanny wants 5mil per for 2 years I dont mind seeing him signing somewhere else. He should not be paid top dollar on our team and I think that is too much money for Shanny. I want to see the guy here but not for any kind of price. 5 mil per season for Shanny is too much IMO, even a 2 year deal. Highest I would go would be about 4 mil.
He scored 40 goals, why is he not worth top dollar

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07-07-2006, 01:59 PM
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He scored 40 goals, why is he not worth top dollar
'cause he's 37!

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07-07-2006, 02:02 PM
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So Boston is actually offerin 4.9M a year? Where will they get the $ to pay the rest of the RFA's?

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He scored 40 goals, why is he not worth top dollar
He scored 40 goals in Detroit.

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'cause he's 37!
And he's more consistant then most players in the NHL.

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'cause he's 37!
Wow so he scored 40 at 36, so now that he is 37, we cant offer him a one year or 2 year deal that he earned last year?

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It says in the article that his decision won't come before next week!!! He keeps on pushing it!

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And he's more consistant then most players in the NHL.
He's still 37! And the Habs are still in some kind of hidden/bad reconstruction! And I'm still young-freak :roll: EDIT: hey! There's no :roll: smiley This will be needed!

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07-07-2006, 02:12 PM
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I dont want him in Montreal but I have to say that he could be a great model for our young NA players like Higgins , Lats , Chipchura ( maybe ) for our Russian Prospect they have Kovy for tutor , Kost , Perez

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07-07-2006, 02:20 PM
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Id give him Kovalev money (4.5) , it think it's fair for him and for Kovy too. But if they go after Shanny they have to unload Zednik somewhere.

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Id give him Kovalev money (4.5) , it think it's fair for him and for Kovy too. But if they go after Shanny they have to unload Zednik somewhere.
Abby as well to free up more cap space.

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07-07-2006, 02:23 PM
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Id give him Kovalev money (4.5) , it think it's fair for him and for Kovy too. But if they go after Shanny they have to unload Zednik somewhere.
Bah! They don't need to get Shanahan to do that!

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07-07-2006, 02:24 PM
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But if they go after Shanny they have to unload Zednik somewhere.
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07-07-2006, 02:29 PM
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Well yes he got 40 goals, but that's in Detroit.
Meaning, Detroit beatup on a lot of bad clubs to get a ton of points. So that 40 goals is inflated. I bet he gets 25 anywhere else.
Still a good player but he would not get 30 mins per game in MTL.

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07-07-2006, 02:29 PM
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I'd be shocekd if Shanny isn't using Montreal and Boston to try and get more money out of Detroit. IMO he wants some kind of bidding war so he can go to Detroit and say "look at the types of offers I am getting yet i am willing to come back for x amount".

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07-07-2006, 02:36 PM
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Well yes he got 40 goals, but that's in Detroit.
Meaning, Detroit beatup on a lot of bad clubs to get a ton of points. So that 40 goals is inflated. I bet he gets 25 anywhere else.
Still a good player but he would not get 30 mins per game in MTL.
Yeah Detroit PP alone was worth the tickets , best in the league with 22% !! But Montreal had the 5th best PP so he could still produce. And Detroit only got 16losses so it's not like they were only beating up Central division teams.

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07-07-2006, 02:38 PM
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Alexei Kovalev 2005-06 MON Games: 69 Goals:23 Assists:42 Pts:65
Salary 4.5 ...this coming year 5mill.? next? 5.5mill.? If I remember correctly

Shanahan 2005-06 DET Games:82 Goals: 40 Assists: 41 Pts:81

I know it's not all about points and/or stats , Shanny's stats speak volumes though , add to that his leadership skills and experience.
I fail to see why so many people think the Kovalev contract was necessity but then can sit here and say that Shanny would be overpaid with more than 4mill. You guys have got to be kidding me....Shanny is exactly the type of power forward that Habs fans have been moaning we need for years.....what is the problem here? 5 milliion - 2 years is more than acceptable , I would think every hab fan would jump at the chance.

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07-07-2006, 02:47 PM
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Alexei Kovalev 2005-06 MON Games: 69 Goals:23 Assists:42 Pts:65
Salary 4.5 ...this coming year 5mill.? next? 5.5mill.? If I remember correctly

Shanahan 2005-06 DET Games:82 Goals: 40 Assists: 41 Pts:81

I know it's not all about points and/or stats , Shanny's stats speak volumes though , add to that his leadership skills and experience.
I fail to see why so many people think the Kovalev contract was necessity but then can sit here and say that Shanny would be overpaid with more than 4mill. You guys have got to be kidding me....Shanny is exactly the type of power forward that Habs fans have been moaning we need for years.....what is the problem here? 5 milliion - 2 years is more than acceptable , I would think every hab fan would jump at the chance.
I understand your logic but we can't force our hands too much, we have to stay it. We're building for the future and we don't ever want to set a bad precedent money-wise. Shrewd deals and homegrown talent is the way to go nowadays. Shanny at 4 million for two years seems very fair.

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07-07-2006, 02:57 PM
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I understand your logic but we can't force our hands too much, we have to stay it. We're building for the future and we don't ever want to set a bad precedent money-wise. Shrewd deals and homegrown talent is the way to go nowadays. Shanny at 4 million for two years seems very fair.
I'm all for building from within the system , but in all honesty, the Habs haven't really doen much in the way of free agent signing in past years, I don't think that the signing of Shanny would really hinder any development for the coming year. He might actually be just the type of player we need to help Latendresse find his place.
Shanny's presence could be the spark plug that our offense needs, the rest of the team is pretty secure.

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07-07-2006, 03:41 PM
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what are the bruins thinking????? they can't afford him, man i hope he signs with Boston cause if he does they're going to have to dump salary and no one will take there trash(i.e Zhamnov) without getting some salary in return

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07-07-2006, 03:49 PM
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Shanahan is worth the 4M. I would even say 5M. When I think of Shanahan I think : leadership (proven winner), goal scorer, big body.

He's exactly what we need. With Zednik and probably Aebischer almost certainly leaving, the salary cap in not an issue. He could teach guys like Higgins, Plekenec, Perezoghin, Kostitsyn, and maybe even Riberio a little bit about winning and what It takes.

9M, 2 year - no trade clause. Give him what he wants.

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