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02-12-2013, 12:20 PM
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The Firebirds are proud to select RW, Zigmund Palffy



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02-12-2013, 12:21 PM
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The Firebirds are proud to select RW Ziggy Palffy

You might have lost out of the Mogilny sweepstakes, but you drafted a guy with a significantly better resume.

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02-12-2013, 12:40 PM
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You might have lost out of the Mogilny sweepstakes, but you drafted a guy with a significantly better resume.
I agree. I had him high on my radar too. Underrated....and he's still playing too.

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You might have lost out of the Mogilny sweepstakes, but you drafted a guy with a significantly better resume.
Yeah Palffy has a much better record despite being on unimpressive teams. We obviously wanted Mogilny but I don't think we were gonna draft him with this pick even if he was there.

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02-12-2013, 12:41 PM
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So if VI has until 7:09 to pick and picks at exactly 7:09, does it count as on time?

Good picks with Dunderdale and Lehman - IMO, Lehman is every bit Tony Esposito's equal.
Yeah...I agree with that. One thing for which I will never forgive TheSabre is scooping Lehman from me in ATD 2011 after I'd spent hours researching his career.

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02-12-2013, 12:43 PM
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You might have lost out of the Mogilny sweepstakes, but you drafted a guy with a significantly better resume.
Yeah...I've come around on Ziggy. I don't know if I believe he was really a "winner", but I don't know if he ever really had a chance, either. Certainly had a bunch of skill. Good to see him rise in the draft. He is deserving.

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02-12-2013, 12:53 PM
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Modo is "Going with a pair of Cup-winnin' Dallas Stars, Derian Hatcher and Joe Nieuwendyk." VI and Hedberg have been pmed.
Hatcher is a good pick here. He's in the group of elite #4's or low-end #3's in the ATD. He generally is the first player in this group to be selected and in that sense he is maybe slightly overrated, but he's excellent at what he does. His AST voting record (minimum two top-3 votes):

Derian Hatcher:
4, 11, 11, 14, 15, 16

There are a number of defensemen in this group: guys who were legit #1 NHL defensemen on strong teams for most of a decade, and briefly peaked as all-stars. That being said, I do not think Hatcher is better than his voting record. I also do not think there is much of a debate between he and Zubov, who was simply the better player. I think it's obvious that playing in a tight defensive system on an excellent team during the dead puck era was flattering to Derian's game. Hatcher is a good pick here, but he's not the godzilla that some GMs around here seem to think he is.

Nieuwendyk...meh. If you can make good use of him on the powerplay, I guess he's worth it.

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02-12-2013, 02:37 PM
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Those Stars teams in 1999 and 2000 really were something though, damn!

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Hatcher-Zubov

Belfour

At least three others who are ATD players as well.

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02-12-2013, 02:51 PM
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Those Stars teams in 1999 and 2000 really were something though, damn!

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At least three others who are ATD players as well.
Damn do I ever miss those years!

The Wings, Stars and Avs basically took turns owning the West for close to a decade. Avs and Stars have since faltered, but it's almost like Detroit has barely skipped a beat, even with all the changeover.

As a Stars fan, I'd kill to replace our coach Gully with Carbonneau right about now. Would be such a great fit.

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Damn do I ever miss those years!

The Wings, Stars and Avs basically took turns owning the West for close to a decade. Avs and Stars have since faltered, but it's almost like Detroit has barely skipped a beat, even with all the changeover.

As a Stars fan, I'd kill to replace our coach Gully with Carbonneau right about now. Would be such a great fit.
I remember it was always the ''big four'' with St.Louis in there, too.

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02-12-2013, 03:04 PM
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I remember it was always the ''big four'' with St.Louis in there, too.
Blues were never really a threat, they were great in the regular season though

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I remember it was always the ''big four'' with St.Louis in there, too.
And whether the East had a chance in the finals was directly related to whether the Devils choked early on or not.

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02-12-2013, 03:32 PM
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02-12-2013, 03:41 PM
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I remember it was always the ''big four'' with St.Louis in there, too.
The big four was Dallas' blueline.

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The big four was Dallas' blueline.
And yet, only 3 of them got norris votes in 2001

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02-12-2013, 04:17 PM
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Pittsburgh will select RW, Steve Larmer


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He was really a tough, consistent player at both ends of the ice. He was always a threat in the offensive zone, and you could always count on him to backcheck and play consistent defense. In a word, he was solid.

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02-12-2013, 04:39 PM
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Pittsburgh will select RW, Steve Larmer


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It was him or Cecil Dillon for me, Dillon having the better accolade resume I went with the former. Nice pick.

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02-12-2013, 04:42 PM
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Selke Voting: 3, 8, T10
Nice choice. He was a favorite of mine growing up in Chicago. Your second line is looking like it will be a real threat to score...

Schriner - Morris - Larmer

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02-12-2013, 04:52 PM
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Selke Voting: 3, 8, T10
Larmer is a very good choice to finish off that line. He's not the most talented player available here, but I think you made the right move. Schriner/Morris bring a lot of scoring ability, but they desperately need the other things that Larmer brings.

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Nice choice. He was a favorite of mine growing up in Chicago. Your second line is looking like it will be a real threat to score...

Schriner - Morris - Larmer
I like Larmer a lot as a defensive conscience for a scoring line who isn't going to drag down the line offensively. As a physical presence, he's not going to scare anyone though, which may or may not be a problem. The Denis Savard - Steve Larmer line usually had a brute of some sort on LW, right?

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I like Larmer a lot as a defensive conscience for a scoring line who isn't going to drag down the line offensively. As a physical presence, he's not going to scare anyone though, which may or may not be a problem. The Denis Savard - Steve Larmer line usually had a brute of some sort on LW, right?
Yep, I'm sure there were exceptions, but I'd say they almost always had a big physical guy on the left side.

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02-12-2013, 05:24 PM
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I like Larmer a lot as a defensive conscience for a scoring line who isn't going to drag down the line offensively. As a physical presence, he's not going to scare anyone though, which may or may not be a problem. The Denis Savard - Steve Larmer line usually had a brute of some sort on LW, right?
That was the concern honestly, but he's still a hardworking type who will do the dirtywork for a line. He might struggle with fearsome defensive pairs, but Larmer will still take the abuse even if he's overmatched physically.

He played one a line with Goulet on the left side too who wasn't that brute mold.

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