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02-12-2013, 09:27 PM
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Zibanejad + Greening

That's an offer that Colorado could find very enticing.



I don't want to give up Wiercioch, but if we had no other choice, I would pull the trigger.

This team could be a serious threat in the 1st round of the playoffs to a top team in the East rocking a Spezza-Turris-O'Reilly-Smith center group.
Perhaps. But then our D would be absolute trash.

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02-12-2013, 09:33 PM
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I would do Zibanejad for ROR for sure. ROR is a proven commodity and offers a lot for this team. He gives a ton of depth at centre, and allows us to move Turris to Spezza's wing when he's healthy again and they would feed fantastically off eachother.

Michalek - Spezza - Turris
Silfverberg - O'Reilly - Alfredsson

That's a legitimate top 6 going into the playoffs and ROR brings more to the team than Zibanejad right now, as well as having a ton of potential.

If that's really the asking price you have to pull the trigger. I hope Silfverberg isn't the one on the table, but as much as I hate to admit it, you make that trade if it's Silfverberg, too (even if I think Silfverberg has top 3 upside and is fairly safe to reach it).

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02-12-2013, 09:36 PM
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What about doing Michalek straight up? (I haven't seen a tonne of O'Reilly, so I"m not sure how close or far this would be)

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02-12-2013, 09:38 PM
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Ryan O'Reilly is basically the player we're hoping Zibanejad can be.

If there's a way to get that done, Murray should do it.

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02-12-2013, 09:42 PM
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If Ottawa is gonna over pay at 5m per season they are better off sending an offer sheet. I would much rather give up a 1st and 3rd then either Zibs or Silf.

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02-12-2013, 09:44 PM
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What about doing Michalek straight up? (I haven't seen a tonne of O'Reilly, so I"m not sure how close or far this would be)
Not even close. Would cost us much more.

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02-12-2013, 09:45 PM
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For the first time in HF board history, I'm seeing two fanbases undervalue their own teams in opposite sides of a trade proposal.

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02-12-2013, 09:49 PM
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Not even close. Would cost us much more.
How far apart could they be?
Milan has better stats and he's widely considered to be a pretty good value at 4+M. That's more than Colorado is offering to pay O'Reilly, who is widely considered overpaid at 5.

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02-12-2013, 09:53 PM
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Not even close. Would cost us much more.
I wouldn't trade Michalek for O'Reilly, let alone add much more.

He may be struggling so far this year but he's still a top 6 winger; alongside a top playmaking center he's a 25-30G scorer.

Not sure why Michalek gets no respect around here. Scored 35 goals last year, yet gets thrown into trade proposals and isn't considered a part of our future.

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02-12-2013, 10:02 PM
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I wouldn't trade Michalek for O'Reilly, let alone add much more.

He may be struggling so far this year but he's still a top 6 winger; alongside a top playmaking center he's a 25-30G scorer.

Not sure why Michalek gets no respect around here. Scored 35 goals last year, yet gets thrown into trade proposals and isn't considered a part of our future.
Yeah I wouldnt do Michalek either. Ziba or Silf, fine, but not Michalek.

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How far apart could they be?
Milan has better stats and he's widely considered to be a pretty good value at 4+M. That's more than Colorado is offering to pay O'Reilly, who is widely considered overpaid at 5.
Well, Michalek is 28 and really hasn't showed much on this team without Spezza.

ROR is 22 and a really strong defensive/shut-down centre who just came off a 55 point season. Players like that are a lot more valuable.

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02-12-2013, 10:04 PM
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Michalek is the only top 6 winger this team has that's not 40. We should probably hold onto him if we have any intentions of being competitive. I would entertain the idea of trading him if its not looking like we can extend him but we need either an established young D or a up and coming winger who can step in and contribute 15-20 goals.

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02-12-2013, 10:05 PM
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I don't think Michalek would be what they're after anyways. They're a team building for the future and 9MM only has 1 year left on his deal.

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02-12-2013, 10:18 PM
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Here's the solution.. Trade Michalek and a pick for O'reilly, sign Perry in the offseason.

Turris Spezza Perry
Silfverberg O'reilly Alfredsson
Zibanejad Smith Greening

Give Alfie one last shot! (While also solidfying a future).

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02-12-2013, 10:22 PM
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Never build a plan around signing a top FA.

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02-12-2013, 10:23 PM
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Colorado wouldn't want Michalek in their situation. Not to mention Michalek has never shown to be that great of a player without an elite centre to drive him. He's a reliable 2 way winger that can put up points, but he's not as good as ROR IMO.

Zibanejad + Benoit for ROR I think should get it done. It works with Ottawa due to how young ROR is, he fits a great spot on this team, and it doesn't hurt us in the short or long term. It would be a great deal for both teams...but I doubt it happens.

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02-12-2013, 10:28 PM
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Never build a plan around signing a top FA.
I think if any team could do it it's us.. But I was definitely joking.

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02-12-2013, 10:52 PM
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I'd probably prefer to offershert him at the value of a 1st and 3rd than trade Zibanejad or Silfverberg. I say that because if gives us players who's career trajectory aligns better with the core of the team over the 18 year olds who would be selected.

All this is assuming we're not selecting top 10 and ROR would be ready to play by late Feb. Otherwise hell naw. Pick up RJ Umberger at a fraction of the assets and eat his contract. He gives us the exact quality of ROR, plays C/W and is a lefty.

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02-12-2013, 11:17 PM
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I'd probably prefer to offershert him at the value of a 1st and 3rd than trade Zibanejad or Silfverberg. I say that because if gives us players who's career trajectory aligns better with the core of the team over the 18 year olds who would be selected.

All this is assuming we're not selecting top 10 and ROR would be ready to play by late Feb. Otherwise hell naw. Pick up RJ Umberger at a fraction of the assets and eat his contract. He gives us the exact quality of ROR, plays C/W and is a lefty.
I could see Murray bringing that up and trying to get him at a lower value. Why give up a top prospect if we could send him an offer and give up a 1st and a 3rd, or not get him and keep the young guys. Even the first and a mid level prospect is better than trading Zbad or Silf at this time.

But, at the same time, O'reilly is someone that I could definitely see on roster with Spezza and Smith and potentially Turris unless he's switched to wing. With those centres, Karlsson/Cowen and Anderson/Lehner I could see a cup at some point.

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02-12-2013, 11:19 PM
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Can the Ducks allow the Sens to talk to Perry, and see if he would be interested in signing with the Sens after the season? I mean, if he flat out says no, then... there is no way we should go after him.

Note: I'm assuming the Sens are interested in him, and willing to offer what the Ducks are asking.

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02-12-2013, 11:33 PM
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What would the cost be to acquire Derek Dorsett? And would Columbus be willing to move him?

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Arent Zib and Landeskog good buds too?

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Arent Zib and Landeskog good buds too?
Landeskog is good buds with Claesson I believe.


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What would the cost be to acquire Derek Dorsett? And would Columbus be willing to move him?
why?

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why?
Dorsett is a fuggin BOU55555555

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