HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Montreal Canadiens
Notices

Practice - Prust/Pacioretty switch lines

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
02-12-2013, 02:18 PM
  #176
Gally11
Registered User
 
Gally11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: St. John's
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,571
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by kris View Post
Prust seems like he brings energy with every shift / line he skates with. Not too many other Hab forwards can say the same (Plekanec maybe?)
Yeah I'm sure MT is just trying to motivate DD / Cole into playing with more energy than they have been.

Gally11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-12-2013, 02:31 PM
  #177
Habs Junkie
Registered User
 
Habs Junkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,060
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by peate View Post
Almost everyone here wants the Subban-Gorges pairing back together and I agree. Markov and Emelin works but they should switch sides for Emelin's sake. Bouillon and Diaz as a third pairing with limited ice time is also good.
It's logical to put subban back with Gorges, but I really think an Emelin\Gorges duo can be very effective against top lines such as the Stamkos/St.Louis lines of the league.

Habs Junkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-12-2013, 04:01 PM
  #178
BaseballCoach
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,879
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Top Corner2 View Post
Hey Coach,

I've respected your opinions around here for some time, but the game has changed a lot since then. Players are just way bigger than they were, it is a fact.
I agree but everything is relative. Players may be all bigger, but it is still LESS of a disadvantage to be a bit smaller at Center, where vision and quick changes of direction are the most important factors in success.

I also took the eras into account. So whereas Doug Risebrough at 5'11 and 185 lbs would be smallish today, I did not list him as small in 1976.

BaseballCoach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-12-2013, 04:13 PM
  #179
BaseballCoach
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,879
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by LePoche69 View Post

Habs gonna have to live and die with Cole. You don't push such veteran aside. He had multiple good seasons in the NHL, and was the best Habs forward last year. That's the type of player you keep playing, hoping he would light things up. Unfortunatly, it could be a bad season, like any player has. If you push such a player aside, you could lose your room and the respect of veterans, and even of future free agents. Bad season happen, live with it.
Ups and downs are normal for guys over 30. Here is Jean Beliveau from ages 31-39.

Season ..GP .G .A .P
1962-63 69 18 49 67
1963-64 68 28 50 78
1964-65 58 20 23 43 **
1965-66 67 29 48 77
1966-67 53 12 26 38 **
1967-68 59 31 37 68
1968-69 69 33 49 82
1969-70 63 19 30 49 **
1970-71 70 25 51 76

It's a good thing the Habs did not give up on Le Gros Bill after 1964-65, or especially 1965-66 at age 34. Three of his final four years were productive.

BaseballCoach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-12-2013, 04:37 PM
  #180
MXD
Registered User
 
MXD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 20,373
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Habs Junkie View Post
Am I the only one that thinks the D pairings should be:

Markov-Subban (top pair playing 25 minutes a game in every situation)
Gorges-Emelin (a real shut-down pair)
Bouillon-Diaz (10-12 minutes a game)
The problem is that you possibly have the worst defensive player on your so-called shutdown pair.

MXD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-12-2013, 08:13 PM
  #181
Habs Junkie
Registered User
 
Habs Junkie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,060
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MXD View Post
The problem is that you possibly have the worst defensive player on your so-called shutdown pair.
Who? Emelin? I don't think he's bad

Habs Junkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-12-2013, 10:06 PM
  #182
One Man Rock Band
Slater's Gonna Slate
 
One Man Rock Band's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Habville
Country: Canada
Posts: 43,692
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Habs Junkie View Post
Am I the only one that thinks the D pairings should be:

Markov-Subban (top pair playing 25 minutes a game in every situation)
Gorges-Emelin (a real shut-down pair)
Bouillon-Diaz (10-12 minutes a game)
I love Emelin, but Diaz is a far better defenseman at every aspect of the game except hitting.

One Man Rock Band is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-12-2013, 10:27 PM
  #183
Coldplay
Courage
 
Coldplay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Montréal
Country: Canada
Posts: 13,315
vCash: 500
I'm a bit more unconventional, in that I'd rather see:

Markov-Diaz (dependable, puck-moving, high-octane offence)
Gorges-Subban (shut-down pair, as close as it gets)
Bouillon-Emelin (mean-streak pair)
Kaberle (Kaberle)

as our usual load, with Kaberle dressing as the 7th D when the matchup is favourable.

Coldplay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-12-2013, 10:29 PM
  #184
MXD
Registered User
 
MXD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 20,373
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Habs Junkie View Post
Who? Emelin? I don't think he's bad
Everybody is entitled to its own thoughts - even if they're wrong.

MXD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-12-2013, 10:30 PM
  #185
Coldplay
Courage
 
Coldplay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Montréal
Country: Canada
Posts: 13,315
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MXD View Post
Everybody is entitled to its own thoughts - even if they're wrong.
I tend to agree with you. Emelin is a premier physical specimen in this league, but he's very one-dimensional. His offensive game and puck skills are, and I'm not pulling any punches here, atrocious, imho.

If he ever rounds out that side of his game, he'll be an even more dangerous weapon on our backend.

Coldplay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-12-2013, 10:32 PM
  #186
MXD
Registered User
 
MXD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 20,373
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coldplay View Post
I tend to agree with you. Emelin is a premier physical specimen in this league, but he's very one-dimensional. His offensive game and puck skills are, and I'm not pulling any punches here, atrocious, imho.

If he ever rounds out that side of his game, he'll be an even more dangerous weapon on our backend.
It's not only that. Actually, his offensive skills are underrated.

His defensive zone coverage is hayheichelesque, though.

MXD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-12-2013, 10:33 PM
  #187
Coldplay
Courage
 
Coldplay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Montréal
Country: Canada
Posts: 13,315
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MXD View Post
It's not only that. Actually, his offensive skills are underrated.

His defensive zone coverage is hayheichelesque, though.
Notice how I didn't mention that in my post.

His offensive skills are underrated because everyone expects he's just a wrecking machine out there, and nothing more. I feel that he sometimes play that way sometimes. Wish he would have a little more consideration of what to do with the puck when he gets it.

Unless I'm totally mistaken.

Coldplay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-13-2013, 12:14 AM
  #188
Guilliam
Registered User
 
Guilliam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Montreal
Posts: 1,878
vCash: 500
I think Emelin's puck moving ability is the part of his game that is the more affected by him playing the right side. He didn't seem to make that many turnovers at the beginning of last season. I recall a couple of beautiful stretch passes he made form the left side.

Guilliam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-13-2013, 06:14 AM
  #189
DAChampion
Registered User
 
DAChampion's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Canberra, Australia
Country: Australia
Posts: 6,354
vCash: 500
Start Markov-Diaz in the offensive zone and Subban-Gorges in the defensive zone.

DAChampion is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
02-13-2013, 07:24 AM
  #190
poetryinmotion
Registered User
 
poetryinmotion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 5,051
vCash: 500
Wasn't too thrilled about the new kid line tbh. Pacioretty looked okay but he was trying to do everything solo and it didn't look like he used the Gally's at all.

poetryinmotion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-13-2013, 07:34 AM
  #191
417
Registered User
 
417's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ottawa
Country: Haiti
Posts: 19,232
vCash: 500
I really don't understand why you're gonna put Pacioretty with Galchenyuk/Gallagher if you're not going to play this line more than 10-12 mins a game

Pacioretty is this teams best winger..

as long as the Habs insist on using Galchenyuk and Gallagher together, they're going to have to continue to hide them in matchups, which doesn't bode well for the other veteran playing on their line

417 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-13-2013, 07:39 AM
  #192
Miller Time
Registered User
 
Miller Time's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 8,025
vCash: 500
13:20 TIO for MaxPac...

exactly what I feared would happen.

I don't see the logic in demoting your most talented forward because the line he was on wasn't clicking (not to mention he dealt with an illness that he made a quick recovery from).

Eller, Subban and Pacioretty need to play more.

Miller Time is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-13-2013, 07:40 AM
  #193
ECWHSWI
P.K. is perfect.
 
ECWHSWI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 14,901
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by 417 View Post
I really don't understand why you're gonna put Pacioretty with Galchenyuk/Gallagher if you're not going to play this line more than 10-12 mins a game

Pacioretty is this teams best winger..

as long as the Habs insist on using Galchenyuk and Gallagher together, they're going to have to continue to hide them in matchups, which doesn't bode well for the other veteran playing on their line
think MT is really preparing the kids for the future more than anything. If MT was thinking "win now" when it came to those two he would have probably used them more, especially since the DD line didnt do much so far.

ECWHSWI is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:55 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.