If the Blues don't start scoring some goals, then I wouldn't be opposed to bringing Jaskin or Rattie either one on their 10 game cameo to find someone who can score...ha ha.
If the Blues don't start scoring some goals, then I wouldn't be opposed to bringing Jaskin or Rattie either one on their 10 game cameo to find someone who can score...ha ha.
Rattie is simply too light and too weak to play forward in The NHL right now, with any kind of effectiveness. He'd get beat up and smothered on virtually every shift. Why take him out of his groove at Portland just to witness that, and possibly see him get a setback-type injury?
Jaskin would be better suited. But I don't see what good it would do to watch him for 6 games. He's a long way from being ready to oust any of The Blues' Top 9 right now. If The Blues were to have multiple serious injuries on the wing, I could see slight possibility. But, even then, I doubt that it would really happen.
Rattie is simply too light and too weak to play forward in The NHL right now, with any kind of effectiveness. He'd get beat up and smothered on virtually every shift. Why take him out of his groove at Portland just to witness that, and possibly see him get a setback-type injury?
Jaskin would be better suited. But I don't see what good it would do to watch him for 6 games. He's a long way from being ready to oust any of The Blues' Top 9 right now. If The Blues were to have multiple serious injuries on the wing, I could see slight possibility. But, even then, I doubt that it would really happen.
Agreed, no way Rattie or Jaskin sees NHL action with Blues this season, Blues already have rookies Frank and Schwartz on the roster.
I have a question about the contract situation of Jaškin. When his season in Moncton finishes he will be 20, does that mean if we were to sign him and put him in Peoria for the rest of the season then we burn a year of his ELC?
I have a question about the contract situation of Jaškin. When his season in Moncton finishes he will be 20, does that mean if we were to sign him and put him in Peoria for the rest of the season then we burn a year of his ELC?
I could be totally wrong but I though you could sign a prospect to an AHL tryout contract for the rest of the year that doesnt burn up a year. Like I said though, not sure if thats right.
Rattie is simply too light and too weak to play forward in The NHL right now, with any kind of effectiveness. He'd get beat up and smothered on virtually every shift. Why take him out of his groove at Portland just to witness that, and possibly see him get a setback-type injury?
Jaskin would be better suited. But I don't see what good it would do to watch him for 6 games. He's a long way from being ready to oust any of The Blues' Top 9 right now. If The Blues were to have multiple serious injuries on the wing, I could see slight possibility. But, even then, I doubt that it would really happen.
Not at all. Obvisouly you havn't watched him much , he's a little closer than you think
I have a question about the contract situation of Jaškin. When his season in Moncton finishes he will be 20, does that mean if we were to sign him and put him in Peoria for the rest of the season then we burn a year of his ELC?
You mention age 20 so I'm going to assume you're referring to the NHL-CHL under-20 agreement. That doesn't apply here for 2 reasons. First off, that rule only applies to players drafted from the CHL. Even though Jaskin is playing in the CHL now, he was drafted from the Czech Republic so the rule never applied to him. He's been eligible to play in the AHL since he was 18. Secondly, even for a player the under 20 rule did apply to, there would be no problem with him signing an ATO (amateur try-out) to finish this season in Peoria. He would not have to sign an ELC and have the first year of his contract count if he played a few games in Peoria yet this season. It would burn the first year of his ELC (once he signs one) if he were to play for the Blues this season but that's not going to happen.
Long story short, if Jaskin's season with Moncton ends early enough, I would expect the Blues to try to get him to Peoria for the rest of the season and it wouldn't burn a year of his ELC to do that. However, I wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't happen because Moncton will likely last pretty long into the QMJHL playoffs (and who knows, might even make it to the Memorial Cup) while Peoria is looking like they'll miss the playoffs entirely so I wouldn't be surprised if by the time Jaskin is done with Moncton, Peoria's season is already over or just ending.
Not at all. Obvisouly you havn't watched him much , he's a little closer than you think
I watched a fair amount of his games last season but haven't seen any of his games this season (other than his scoring clips), nor have I seen his physical condition since last season when he weighed about 170 (e.g. haven't seen him using his strength much on plays-only seen him making assist passes or popping the puck into the net on highlights).
Is he a LOT stronger now? What is his current weight? Is he stronger on the puck? Does he use his additional strength to avoid getting knocked off, and to win more puck battles? Is he getting back better on defence? I imagine that he's quite a bit better than last season due to his added strength, bulk, body maturity and playing experience. The question is, "how much better?". I'm glad to hear that he is nearer to ready than I had expected.
Bummer, Jaskins game postponed tonight. From what I have seen he will come to camp looking to earn a job. If there are injuries he there is a chance he could be on the blues roster at the end of the year. Granted a long shot but this guy is the real deal.
You mention age 20 so I'm going to assume you're referring to the NHL-CHL under-20 agreement. That doesn't apply here for 2 reasons. First off, that rule only applies to players drafted from the CHL. Even though Jaskin is playing in the CHL now, he was drafted from the Czech Republic so the rule never applied to him. He's been eligible to play in the AHL since he was 18. Secondly, even for a player the under 20 rule did apply to, there would be no problem with him signing an ATO (amateur try-out) to finish this season in Peoria. He would not have to sign an ELC and have the first year of his contract count if he played a few games in Peoria yet this season. It would burn the first year of his ELC (once he signs one) if he were to play for the Blues this season but that's not going to happen.
Long story short, if Jaskin's season with Moncton ends early enough, I would expect the Blues to try to get him to Peoria for the rest of the season and it wouldn't burn a year of his ELC to do that. However, I wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't happen because Moncton will likely last pretty long into the QMJHL playoffs (and who knows, might even make it to the Memorial Cup) while Peoria is looking like they'll miss the playoffs entirely so I wouldn't be surprised if by the time Jaskin is done with Moncton, Peoria's season is already over or just ending.
Isn't that similar to the way the Blues handled Backes?
I watched a fair amount of his games last season but haven't seen any of his games this season (other than his scoring clips), nor have I seen his physical condition since last season when he weighed about 170 (e.g. haven't seen him using his strength much on plays-only seen him making assist passes or popping the puck into the net on highlights).
Is he a LOT stronger now? What is his current weight? Is he stronger on the puck? Does he use his additional strength to avoid getting knocked off, and to win more puck battles? Is he getting back better on defence? I imagine that he's quite a bit better than last season due to his added strength, bulk, body maturity and playing experience. The question is, "how much better?". I'm glad to hear that he is nearer to ready than I had expected.
Comparing Jaskin from last year to this year is like comparin two different players. Last season Jaskin was dealing with an aggravating knee injury which hurt his production and development. On top of that , he wasn't playing many minutes in a pro league against men. Dmitri is listed at 6'3" 205lbs but he's likely in the 208-214 range. He has a tremendous dedication to hockey and is usually the first to hit the ice or gym and the last to leave. He's an incredibly hard worker on and off the ice. From what I'm told he's added a significant amount of muscle since arriving in Moncton , hence improving his game on the ice. He's definitely much stronger on the puck. He shields the puck extremely well and is soo physically strong that it makes it very difficult for defenders to knock him off the puck. In fact it's nearly impossible and rarely happens. Secondly , skating used to be a knock but he's done alot of work since overcoming his injury and his foot speed has improved by a mile. His skating is very noticibly better this season.Jaskin isn't a perimeter player whatsoever, he rather go through his opponents. Opponents are often crushed my heavy checks and he dosn't shy away from going into the corners and usually comes out with the puck. He has a nose for the net and drives well. Great shot with amazing accuracy. Gets shots off quick which usually fools goaltenders or dosn't give them the time to react. Sometimes used on the point for the powerplay and likes to use the one-timer. Although a greast shooter who scores nightly , Dmitri is an elite playmaker with good vision. He thinks shoot first for the most part but makes clean crisp passes when neccesary. Positional player who always knows where to be and creates havoc in front of the net since he's soo hard to be moved. Defence hasn't been an issue since arriving , however it has steadily improved since the start of the year. Used to be the first one back to help the defence before the new addition of Philip Danault but he's not a liability. Last year was a tough season for him , career wise, but he made plans to come to a great CHL organization and it's paying off. He is back on track and is steadily improving his game and was the work ethic/skill to make the jump next season. I suspect he'll push for an NHL roster spot as early as next season but will likely have a good season in Peoria and play in the NHL in 2014-2015. Intriguing prospect with a high ceiling. I've mentioned before I see him as a very effective second liner in the NHL. I've seen alot of players come and go. Some dominating at this level and not even recording a single point at the pro level. Dmitri Jaskin is one of those special players that only come around every once and awhile. He's the best player in the QMJHL without a doubt. Yanick Jean(Victoriaville coach) and Patrick Roy have both stated this as well. IMO, he's also a good possibility for CHL MVP. St.Louis got a steal when they selected him in the 2nd round. You guys should be estatic , this guy is a stud.
Last edited by WildcatMapleLeafs28: 02-11-2013 at 04:15 PM.
Comparing Jaskin from last year to this year is like comparin two different players. Last season Jaskin was dealing with an aggravating knee injury which hurt his production and development. On top of that , he wasn't playing many minutes in a pro league against men. Dmitri is listed at 6'3" 205lbs but he's likely in the 208-214 range. He has a tremendous dedication to hockey and is usually the first to hit the ice or gym and the last to leave. He's an incredibly hard worker on and off the ice. From what I'm told he's added a significant amount of muscle since arriving in Moncton , hence improving his game on the ice. He's definitely much stronger on the puck. He shields the puck extremely well and is soo physically strong that it makes it very difficult for defenders to knock him off the puck. In fact it's nearly impossible and rarely happens. Secondly , skating used to be a knock but he's done alot of work since overcoming his injury and his foot speed has improved by a mile. His skating is very noticibly better this season.Jaskin isn't a perimeter player whatsoever, he rather go through his opponents. Opponents are often crushed my heavy checks and he dosn't shy away from going into the corners and usually comes out with the puck. He has a nose for the net and drives well. Great shot with amazing accuracy. Gets shots off quick which usually fools goaltenders or dosn't give them the time to react. Sometimes used on the point for the powerplay and likes to use the one-timer. Although a greast shooter who scores nightly , Dmitri is an elite playmaker with good vision. He thinks shoot first for the most part but makes clean crisp passes when neccesary. Positional player who always knows where to be and creates havoc in front of the net since he's soo hard to be moved. Defence hasn't been an issue since arriving , however it has steadily improved since the start of the year. Used to be the first one back to help the defence before the new addition of Philip Danault but he's not a liability. Last year was a tough season for him , career wise, but he made plans to come to a great CHL organization and it's paying off. He is back on track and is steadily improving his game and was the work ethic/skill to make the jump next season. I suspect he'll push for an NHL roster spot as early as next season but will likely have a good season in Peoria and play in the NHL in 2014-2015. Intriguing prospect with a high ceiling. I've mentioned before I see him as a very effective second liner in the NHL. I've seen alot of players come and go. Some dominating at this level and not even recording a single point at the pro level. Dmitri Jaskin is one of those special players that only come around every once and awhile. He's the best player in the QMJHL without a doubt. Yanick Jean(Victoriaville coach) and Patrick Roy have both stated this as well. IMO, he's also a good possibility for CHL MVP. St.Louis got a steal when they selected him in the 2nd round. You guys should be estatic , this guy is a stud.
so long.... lol. Im sure it's a good read but i just got done reading stuff for my exam so i'm in no mood to begin reading this lol... will save it for later or tomorrow #lazyproblems #hashtags on hfboards??
Comparing Jaskin from last year to this year is like comparin two different players. Last season Jaskin was dealing with an aggravating knee injury which hurt his production and development. On top of that , he wasn't playing many minutes in a pro league against men. Dmitri is listed at 6'3" 205lbs but he's likely in the 208-214 range. He has a tremendous dedication to hockey and is usually the first to hit the ice or gym and the last to leave. He's an incredibly hard worker on and off the ice. From what I'm told he's added a significant amount of muscle since arriving in Moncton , hence improving his game on the ice. He's definitely much stronger on the puck. He shields the puck extremely well and is soo physically strong that it makes it very difficult for defenders to knock him off the puck. In fact it's nearly impossible and rarely happens. Secondly , skating used to be a knock but he's done alot of work since overcoming his injury and his foot speed has improved by a mile. His skating is very noticibly better this season.Jaskin isn't a perimeter player whatsoever, he rather go through his opponents. Opponents are often crushed my heavy checks and he dosn't shy away from going into the corners and usually comes out with the puck. He has a nose for the net and drives well. Great shot with amazing accuracy. Gets shots off quick which usually fools goaltenders or dosn't give them the time to react. Sometimes used on the point for the powerplay and likes to use the one-timer. Although a greast shooter who scores nightly , Dmitri is an elite playmaker with good vision. He thinks shoot first for the most part but makes clean crisp passes when neccesary. Positional player who always knows where to be and creates havoc in front of the net since he's soo hard to be moved. Defence hasn't been an issue since arriving , however it has steadily improved since the start of the year. Used to be the first one back to help the defence before the new addition of Philip Danault but he's not a liability. Last year was a tough season for him , career wise, but he made plans to come to a great CHL organization and it's paying off. He is back on track and is steadily improving his game and was the work ethic/skill to make the jump next season. I suspect he'll push for an NHL roster spot as early as next season but will likely have a good season in Peoria and play in the NHL in 2014-2015. Intriguing prospect with a high ceiling. I've mentioned before I see him as a very effective second liner in the NHL. I've seen alot of players come and go. Some dominating at this level and not even recording a single point at the pro level. Dmitri Jaskin is one of those special players that only come around every once and awhile. He's the best player in the QMJHL without a doubt. Yanick Jean(Victoriaville coach) and Patrick Roy have both stated this as well. IMO, he's also a good possibility for CHL MVP. St.Louis got a steal when they selected him in the 2nd round. You guys should be estatic , this guy is a stud.
so long.... lol. Im sure it's a good read but i just got done reading stuff for my exam so i'm in no mood to begin reading this lol... will save it for later or tomorrow #lazyproblems #hashtags on hfboards??
Haha, I read it all. I'm an English major, there's no such thing as too much reading
To sum up Wildcats' points, he basically said Jaskin is a very hard worker, is probably heavier than he is listed, skates right through opponents, has a great shot, but also crashes the net, and it's been stated multiple times that he's best player in the Q, and one of the best in the entire CHL.
so long.... lol. Im sure it's a good read but i just got done reading stuff for my exam so i'm in no mood to begin reading this lol... will save it for later or tomorrow #lazyproblems #hashtags on hfboards??
Oh well lol. I figure as much info as possible is a good thing I think I covered the questions
Haha, I read it all. I'm an English major, there's no such thing as too much reading
To sum up Wildcats' points, he basically said Jaskin is a very hard worker, is probably heavier than he is listed, skates right through opponents, has a great shot, but also crashes the net, and it's been stated multiple times that he's best player in the Q, and one of the best in the entire CHL.
my low reading speed and I thank you very much lol
Edit: Happy to admit that i just read it all and i'm now even more pumped to see what he can do next year with us and hopefully he can push for a third line spot next year. schwartz-berglund-jaskin? or jaskin-berglund-d'ags/stewart? or possibly Jaskin-Backes-Oshie with a perron-berglund-tarasenko second line? obviously this is if he keeps up that work ethic and can come in right away next year and be impressive and translate his game... i guess only time will tell
Last edited by STLBLUES44: 02-11-2013 at 11:10 PM.
My description that was quoted above regarding lack of size and strength, was about Rattie-NOT Jaskin. I admitted that, based on his play this season, Jaskin is closer than Rattie, and might be able to play for Peoria after The QMJHL playoffs are over. Too bad if Peoria fails to make The AHL playoffs. I think Jaskin will have a chance to Make The Blues' roster in September. But, there's also a good chance he'll start 2013-14 in Peoria. I'm guessing that Rattie will also start in Peoria.
My description that was quoted above regarding lack of size and strength, was about Rattie-NOT Jaskin. I admitted that, based on his play this season, Jaskin is closer than Rattie, and might be able to play for Peoria after The QMJHL playoffs are over. Too bad if Peoria fails to make The AHL playoffs. I think Jaskin will have a chance to Make The Blues' roster in September. But, there's also a good chance he'll start 2013-14 in Peoria. I'm guessing that Rattie will also start in Peoria.
If schwartz gets weeded out do you think jaskin-schwartz-Rattie may tear up the AHL next year? Then again i have a feeling schwartz makes the jump to the NHL for good next year but i'm just thinking for the sake of peoria and developing our young talent that would be a ridiculous line to roll out with edmundson and maybe hakanpaa at the points?
If schwartz gets weeded out do you think jaskin-schwartz-Rattie may tear up the AHL next year? Then again i have a feeling schwartz makes the jump to the NHL for good next year but i'm just thinking for the sake of peoria and developing our young talent that would be a ridiculous line to roll out with edmundson and maybe hakanpaa at the points?
I don't see Schwartz playing in Peoria at all, next season, and I don't think Jaskin will be down there all season.
my low reading speed and I thank you very much lol
Edit: Happy to admit that i just read it all and i'm now even more pumped to see what he can do next year with us and hopefully he can push for a third line spot next year. schwartz-berglund-jaskin? or jaskin-berglund-d'ags/stewart? or possibly Jaskin-Backes-Oshie with a perron-berglund-tarasenko second line? obviously this is if he keeps up that work ethic and can come in right away next year and be impressive and translate his game... i guess only time will tell
Okay, I love the idea of a Jaskin-Backes-Oshie line and a Perron-Berglund-Tarasenko line. The only problem is where we put Schwartz because I feel like a line with McD and Schwartz would be too small, even if paired with Stewart or Steen.
Maybe we should just scrap the fourth line idea and just have a number one line and 3 second lines. I mean it works in NHL 12, that's real life, right?
Nah, its just gonna slow him down.
I think I covered the questions 
