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02-11-2013, 06:39 PM
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Would anyone take Brian Campbell on their team?

PP speacialist, and can hold his own defensively. Wicked with the poke check in his own zone. Great skater for the big ice.

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Would anyone take Brian Campbell on their team?

PP speacialist, and can hold his own defensively. Wicked with the poke check in his own zone. Great skater for the big ice.
He seems to be getting a lot of attention from Toronto sports writers who are predicting the Olympic team.

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Would anyone take Brian Campbell on their team?

PP speacialist, and can hold his own defensively. Wicked with the poke check in his own zone. Great skater for the big ice.
My view is that he'd be redundant in a 7-man defense group that already includes Letang (who's he's most similar to, but not quite as good as), Doughty, Keith, and Pietrangelo. Letang should fill the same role as Boyle did in 2010 - PP specialist, puck-mover, competent defensively.

With the roster sizes expanding to 25 (implying 8 defensemen), I wouldn't personally be appalled if Campbell was selected, but my guess is that the bottom-pairing guys will be comprised of the likes of Staal, Seabrook, Hamhuis - defensive defencemen.

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Would anyone take Brian Campbell on their team?

PP speacialist, and can hold his own defensively. Wicked with the poke check in his own zone. Great skater for the big ice.
He could. Very underrated defensivly. Great passer and skater. The biggest plus with his skillset is that he's a lefty with our main guys being righties ( Letang, Doughty, Weber, Pietrangelo)


As a lefty the only sure fire lock is Keith.


He'll be fighting for the 6th and 7th spots with Subban (right), Seabrook (right) Staal (left), Girardi (right), Hamhuis (left), Phaneuf (left), Tyler Myers (right), Boyle (right), Green (right)

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At this point, yes; still a lot of hockey to be played between now and December, though.
With Eric Staal's re-energized play this season, 8+8 16pts to go along with a + 12 you see him as a possible 2nd line center with Stamkos (LW) and Giroux (RW)

Previously I had him on the 3rd line LW with Towes and Nash. but thinking now for the sake of "chemistry" having Sharp on LW. (if sharp has the numbers to back it up) I just don't see Richards amping up his game. Granted I have only seen one period of LA hockey this season, but his lack of production is worrying.... 1 goal and a -5. I know stats don't always tell the whole story...but at this point, Richards is not there.

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With Eric Staal's re-energized play this season, 8+8 16pts to go along with a + 12 you see him as a possible 2nd line center with Stamkos (LW) and Giroux (RW)

Previously I had him on the 3rd line LW with Towes and Nash. but thinking now for the sake of "chemistry" having Sharp on LW. (if sharp has the numbers to back it up) I just don't see Richards amping up his game. Granted I have only seen one period of LA hockey this season, but his lack of production is worrying.... 1 goal and a -5. I know stats don't always tell the whole story...but at this point, Richards is not there.
I'd still really like to see Stamkos at center - he's always played there, he's comfortable there, and he's had fantastic chemistry with St. Louis playing on his RW throughout his career. I don't recall Stamkos ever playing wing (power play time notwithstanding; a Crosby-Stamkos combo on the PP would be lethal). MSL would obviously make my team right now too, and if he's playing at this level come December he should be a lock, IMO.

Eric Staal should be a lock at this point too; he's playing great so far this year (after an off-year last year), and typically heats up in the 2nd half so the best may be yet to come for him this season. The beauty of having Staal there is that you can slot him from lines #1 to #4, either C or LW.

I tend to agree re: Richards, though I think he's the kind of guy that will get the benefit of the doubt from Hockey Canada for what he brings to the table, stuff that can't be measured on the scoreboard. I'd hate to lose his physicality, defensive play, and international experience but realistically there may be better guys available who play a similar style of game (Benn and Couture come to mind) and are on the upswing. Still too early to write him off though, IMO. The Kings as a whole are off to a terrible start, and Richards is coming off an outstanding playoff run.

I've always liked Sharp for this team, but the fact is he's not good enough to be a lock, and there are a bunch of young guys at his heels that can do some of the things that Sharp does, only better. He's kind of an ideal guy to have as your 13th forward, though, as he's versatile and can pretty much do anything or play anywhere you need him to. I'm not sure if chemistry with Toews will get him over the hump, as Toews found great chemisty with two unfamiliar players in 2010 fairly quickly. In my opinion, for Sharp it will come down to which of the young guys are at the top of their game in December, and consequently team needs.

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Tavares Crosby Neal
E. Staal Stamkos St. Louis
Nash Toews Sharp
Benn Bergeron Giroux
Eberle Seguin

Weber Pietrangelo
Keith Doughty
M. Staal Letang
Hamhuis Del Zotto

Price
Luongo
Fleury

New forward group for me. Neal is on the first line not because he is the best available player or because he may supposedly have chemistry with Crosby, but because he knows how to play off great players. Tavares and Crosby I think would be a deadly combination with hockey sense through the roof, Crosby providing the speed and Tavares having proven himself multiple times on big ice.

Second line brings the tried and true Tampa Bay combo of St. Louis and Stamkos, which should guarantee instant offence. Eric Staal is brought in to provide a little bit of everything. He's looked quite good playing with some actual talent on his line in Carolina, and he played LW in 2010.

Third line has Toews as the obvious anchor, and Nash is paired with him once again due to his versatility and international experience. Sharp should have some chemistry with Toews, is quite versatile himself and is a quality skater. Each player on this line could be counted on for the PK.

Fourth line is anchored by Bergeron, the ideal fourth line centre. Benn is another versatile player with good size, defensive awareness and offensive skill. Giroux has seemingly been demoted, but really I find it difficult to find spots for both he and St. Louis in the top two lines. Giroux brings speed and playmaking to this line. While being quite defensively competent, this line is not a traditional hockey fourth line as it should be quite deadly on offence.

I picked Eberle and Seguin for the last two spots. I think these spots are ideal for younger players who won't gripe about lack of playtime. Eberle has done enough internationally, and in the NHL, to get a spot. Seguin looked very good in Switzerland, is decent defensively and can at the very least play with Bergeron quite effectively. His speed is also a nice asset. Taylor Hall could also easily fit into this kind of role, as could Jeff Skinner or any other number of players.

The defence is pretty self-explanatory. For the last two spots, Hamhuis is brought in as a defensive specialist while Del Zotto is a young guy who should be content with little playing time and can also be an offensive spark if there is an injury.

Goaltenders are basically the two best at the time, plus Fleury who has been the third goaltender before and seems to have the right mentality for that role. I will make it clear that I do not want Fleury ever touching the ice during a game.

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02-13-2013, 08:53 AM
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I'd still really like to see Stamkos at center - he's always played there, he's comfortable there, and he's had fantastic chemistry with St. Louis playing on his RW throughout his career. I don't recall Stamkos ever playing wing (power play time notwithstanding; a Crosby-Stamkos combo on the PP would be lethal). MSL would obviously make my team right now too, and if he's playing at this level come December he should be a lock, IMO.

Eric Staal should be a lock at this point too; he's playing great so far this year (after an off-year last year), and typically heats up in the 2nd half so the best may be yet to come for him this season. The beauty of having Staal there is that you can slot him from lines #1 to #4, either C or LW.

I tend to agree re: Richards, though I think he's the kind of guy that will get the benefit of the doubt from Hockey Canada for what he brings to the table, stuff that can't be measured on the scoreboard. I'd hate to lose his physicality, defensive play, and international experience but realistically there may be better guys available who play a similar style of game (Benn and Couture come to mind) and are on the upswing. Still too early to write him off though, IMO. The Kings as a whole are off to a terrible start, and Richards is coming off an outstanding playoff run.

I've always liked Sharp for this team, but the fact is he's not good enough to be a lock, and there are a bunch of young guys at his heels that can do some of the things that Sharp does, only better. He's kind of an ideal guy to have as your 13th forward, though, as he's versatile and can pretty much do anything or play anywhere you need him to. I'm not sure if chemistry with Toews will get him over the hump, as Toews found great chemisty with two unfamiliar players in 2010 fairly quickly. In my opinion, for Sharp it will come down to which of the young guys are at the top of their game in December, and consequently team needs.

My idea is to put my most accomplished and experienced centers at center. Playing center carries the most defensive responsibilities, so for a player like Stamkos (as as gifted of a sniper he is) will have to match up against every team's 2nd center. (at the Olympics every center on every team should be elite.) I think there'll be less challenges for Staal playing 2nd line center than Stamkos...That was my idea...we'll see how it goes. Again, I don't want too many players playing out of position. So, I see that side of the reasoning as well.


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Tavares Crosby Neal
E. Staal Stamkos St. Louis
Nash Toews Sharp
Benn Bergeron Giroux
Eberle Seguin

Weber Pietrangelo
Keith Doughty
M. Staal Letang
Hamhuis Del Zotto

Price
Luongo
Fleury


New forward group for me. Neal is on the first line not because he is the best available player or because he may supposedly have chemistry with Crosby, but because he knows how to play off great players. Tavares and Crosby I think would be a deadly combination with hockey sense through the roof, Crosby providing the speed and Tavares having proven himself multiple times on big ice.

Second line brings the tried and true Tampa Bay combo of St. Louis and Stamkos, which should guarantee instant offence. Eric Staal is brought in to provide a little bit of everything. He's looked quite good playing with some actual talent on his line in Carolina, and he played LW in 2010.

Third line has Toews as the obvious anchor, and Nash is paired with him once again due to his versatility and international experience. Sharp should have some chemistry with Toews, is quite versatile himself and is a quality skater. Each player on this line could be counted on for the PK.

Fourth line is anchored by Bergeron, the ideal fourth line centre. Benn is another versatile player with good size, defensive awareness and offensive skill. Giroux has seemingly been demoted, but really I find it difficult to find spots for both he and St. Louis in the top two lines. Giroux brings speed and playmaking to this line. While being quite defensively competent, this line is not a traditional hockey fourth line as it should be quite deadly on offence.

I picked Eberle and Seguin for the last two spots. I think these spots are ideal for younger players who won't gripe about lack of playtime. Eberle has done enough internationally, and in the NHL, to get a spot. Seguin looked very good in Switzerland, is decent defensively and can at the very least play with Bergeron quite effectively. His speed is also a nice asset. Taylor Hall could also easily fit into this kind of role, as could Jeff Skinner or any other number of players.

The defence is pretty self-explanatory. For the last two spots, Hamhuis is brought in as a defensive specialist while Del Zotto is a young guy who should be content with little playing time and can also be an offensive spark if there is an injury.

Goaltenders are basically the two best at the time, plus Fleury who has been the third goaltender before and seems to have the right mentality for that role. I will make it clear that I do not want Fleury ever touching the ice during a game.

I think we are pretty much 99.9999999% in sync on that line-up. not sold yet on Benn on the 4th.line...but he's close. Only because I thought from last year's WHC, he really didn't impress me on big ice. If Dallas are out of the POs again this spring, I'd like to see what he can do on a line minus Getzlaf and Perry. And if you take a look at the current standinds and teams out of the PO picture, how does a line of Benn-Tavares-Giroux look?

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My idea is to put my most accomplished and experienced centers at center. Playing center carries the most defensive responsibilities, so for a player like Stamkos (as as gifted of a sniper he is) will have to match up against every team's 2nd center. (at the Olympics every center on every team should be elite.) I think there'll be less challenges for Staal playing 2nd line center than Stamkos...That was my idea...we'll see how it goes. Again, I don't want too many players playing out of position. So, I see that side of the reasoning as well.
I wouldn't worry about Stamkos at centre. No other country can throw out four elite centres, and realistically none of them can even send out three. I wouldn't want Stamkos out against Malkin, but other than that he can be used in pretty favourable matchups.

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I'd still really like to see Stamkos at center - he's always played there, he's comfortable there, and he's had fantastic chemistry with St. Louis playing on his RW throughout his career. I don't recall Stamkos ever playing wing (power play time notwithstanding; a Crosby-Stamkos combo on the PP would be lethal). MSL would obviously make my team right now too, and if he's playing at this level come December he should be a lock, IMO.
I agree on keeping Stamkos at centre, but I do think he has a bit of wing experience. I believe at the 2009 WCs he played with Spezza and St. Louis, with Spezza at centre, and was quite successful.

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Tavares Crosby Neal
E. Staal Stamkos St. Louis
Nash Toews Sharp
Benn Bergeron Giroux
Eberle Seguin

Weber Pietrangelo
Keith Doughty
M. Staal Letang
Hamhuis Del Zotto

Price
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Fleury
I really like that team, well done. I like the idea of Neal, the gritty goal scorer, on the 1st line with Crosby, with my only concerns with Neal being his lack of big-game experience and sometimes undisciplined play (see last year's playoff round vs. Philly, though that was a complete gong-show). With Eberle and Seguin on the roster either of them could easily rotate in with Sid if Neal doesn't work out or to give that line a different look, and you don't lose much aside from some physicality.

I's still like to find a spot for Taylor Hall on this team - his speed on the wing, chemistry with Eberle, and ability to pressure the defense on the rush would be very well-suited to this team and the international ice, IMO. Maybe the one change I'd have on my forward group is to switch Hall for Sharp (see my comments above re: Sharp).

On defense, I'd switch up Seabrook for Del Zotto. I like MDZ, but simply put I don't think he's ready for this level of play yet. My personal instinct is to go with the "safe" pick, Seabrook, a guy who's battle-tested, great defensively, has chemistry with Keith, and willing to take a backseat on Team Canada. Chicago's gearing up for a deep playoff run this year, I think, so Seabrook can really nail-down a roster spot with another strong showing this year. You also don't lose too much offensively with Seabrook, either, he gets the job done back there.

With MDZ, obviously you have him as a depth defenceman, but I'm just not sure if he's ready yet. I'd probably take Girardi and Campbell ahead of him, honestly. But I'm pretty conservative in my view on defencemen...

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I think we are pretty much 99.9999999% in sync on that line-up. not sold yet on Benn on the 4th.line...but he's close. Only because I thought from last year's WHC, he really didn't impress me on big ice. If Dallas are out of the POs again this spring, I'd like to see what he can do on a line minus Getzlaf and Perry. And if you take a look at the current standinds and teams out of the PO picture, how does a line of Benn-Tavares-Giroux look?
That looks pretty sick, actually. Tavares and Benn always answer the bell for the Hockey Canada, lets see if Giroux does too.

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I really like that team, well done. I like the idea of Neal, the gritty goal scorer, on the 1st line with Crosby, with my only concerns with Neal being his lack of big-game experience and sometimes undisciplined play (see last year's playoff round vs. Philly, though that was a complete gong-show). With Eberle and Seguin on the roster either of them could easily rotate in with Sid if Neal doesn't work out or to give that line a different look, and you don't lose much aside from some physicality.

I's still like to find a spot for Taylor Hall on this team - his speed on the wing, chemistry with Eberle, and ability to pressure the defense on the rush would be very well-suited to this team and the international ice, IMO. Maybe the one change I'd have on my forward group is to switch Hall for Sharp (see my comments above re: Sharp).

On defense, I'd switch up Seabrook for Del Zotto. I like MDZ, but simply put I don't think he's ready for this level of play yet. My personal instinct is to go with the "safe" pick, Seabrook, a guy who's battle-tested, great defensively, has chemistry with Keith, and willing to take a backseat on Team Canada. Chicago's gearing up for a deep playoff run this year, I think, so Seabrook can really nail-down a roster spot with another strong showing this year. You also don't lose too much offensively with Seabrook, either, he gets the job done back there.

With MDZ, obviously you have him as a depth defenceman, but I'm just not sure if he's ready yet. I'd probably take Girardi and Campbell ahead of him, honestly. But I'm pretty conservative in my view on defencemen...

Never did take a look at the TOI stats for Team Canada in 2010. Or if I did, I can't remember. But was ice time pretty much even for the forwards +- a few minutes.. where as the D-men like Weber got their traditional 28-30 minutes per game? I should take a look at Hockey Canada's website to see what Babcock did there. do you recall?

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I wouldn't worry about Stamkos at centre. No other country can throw out four elite centres, and realistically none of them can even send out three. I wouldn't want Stamkos out against Malkin, but other than that he can be used in pretty favourable matchups.



I agree on keeping Stamkos at centre, but I do think he has a bit of wing experience. I believe at the 2009 WCs he played with Spezza and St. Louis, with Spezza at centre, and was quite successful.
Fair enough, I was out of the loop with respect to the Worlds for a few years, living in the U.S. Yeah, against teams with very strong 1st lines (Sweden and Russia) I'd view the Stamkos as our third line, and try and have the Toews line (maybe with Bergeron at RW) out there against Malkin or the Sedins.

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That looks pretty sick, actually. Tavares and Benn always answer the bell for the Hockey Canada, lets see if Giroux does too.
I know. I think that troika could do some damage and may even be Canada's second line.... because if you look at the standings, Tampa is barely hanging on, if they are out... then Stamkos and St.Louis should answer the bell. With Olympic spots on the line, players won't be so reluctant to accept Stevie.Y's call this spring. At least I'm hoping that's the case. But who knows/

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Never did take a look at the TOI stats for Team Canada in 2010. Or if I did, I can't remember. But was ice time pretty much even for the forwards +- a few minutes.. where as the D-men like Weber got their traditional 28-30 minutes per game? I should take a look at Hockey Canada's website to see what Babcock did there. do you recall?
I have TOI for 2010 somewhere, I'll try and dig it up. From what I remember:

- In the round robin, Niedermayer and Pronger were essentially useless, so Keith, Weber, and Doughty were forced to play 25+ minutes, which I remember being seen as astronomical ice time for the OGs given the caliber and pace of play.
- Once Pronger and Nieds found their games (beginning at the Russia game, really), ice time levelled-off and the three pairings saw fairly even ice time.
- Seabrook only saw 6-7 minutes per game, on average. Essentially just PK with Keith, and a few ES shifts with Keith.
- Niedermayer - Weber were the "shutdown" pairing, and saw their ice time increase over the course of the medal round (along with that of the Toews line).

I think where it all shook out, for the Slovakia and U.S. games, was that Nieds-Weber, was our top pairing, Keith-Doughty #2, and Pronger-Boyle #3. Pronger saw more PK time, and Boyle more PP time. So, fairly evenly split between the top 6.

Up front, we ended up with the Crosby line #1, Toews line #2, Getzlaf #3, Thornton #4, but fairly evenly distributed once special-teams play is factored in (i.e., Marleau got a load of ice time through playing the PK and the PP, whereas a guy like Perry didn't see special teams ice time). The four lines were rolled pretty regularly at ES.

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I know. I think that troika could do some damage and may even be Canada's second line.... because if you look at the standings, Tampa is barely hanging on, if they are out... then Stamkos and St.Louis should answer the bell. With Olympic spots on the line, players won't be so reluctant to accept Stevie.Y's call this spring. At least I'm hoping that's the case. But who knows/
My guess is that TB will run hot and cold all season, but ultimately make the playoffs as, say, the #7 seed. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Good to see Vinny still playing great hockey....

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My guess is that TB will run hot and cold all season, but ultimately make the playoffs as, say, the #7 seed. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Good to see Vinny still playing great hockey....
Ya, I can't see T-Bay missing out again this year and I hope they are in it and go on a good run. NHL Play-off games infinitely more valuable for Stamkos and co at this point than 9 WHC games.

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With the increased roster sizes (from 23 to 25), do you guys know if we'll actually be able to dress all 25 players for each game? Thinking back to 2010, we dressed 2 goalies, 7 d-men, and 13 forwards; are we able to (or would even want to) dress all 25? Or would the incremental 2-3 skaters be seen as a taxi squad, and draw-in to the lineup as deemed necessary by the coaching staff?

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With the increased roster sizes (from 23 to 25), do you guys know if we'll actually be able to dress all 25 players for each game? Thinking back to 2010, we dressed 2 goalies, 7 d-men, and 13 forwards; are we able to (or would even want to) dress all 25? Or would the incremental 2-3 skaters be seen as a taxi squad, and draw-in to the lineup as deemed necessary by the coaching staff?
My guess is that there will be two skaters not dressed for each game, with the coach making the decision. The same 13 forward, 7 defencemen system we usually see, but with two eligible skaters in the press box. That is a big part of the reason I want young guys for those roles.

Roster projecting is all the rage in the media now, so here are a few more.

Cam Cole, National Post: http://sports.nationalpost.com/2013/...lympic-hockey/

He doesn't give a concrete roster, but he does look at players who have risen or fallen and also the potential coaching staff.

Michael Traikos and Noah Love, National Post: http://sports.nationalpost.com/2013/...4-sochi-games/

First time I've seen brad Richards picked in a while, and he was picked at the expense of Tavares.

Alan Muir, Sports Illustrated: http://nhl.si.com/2013/02/08/sochi-2...ster-forecast/

Pretty solid team. It seems like most media prefer Hall to Seguin for now, which could be due to the weaker selection at LW. They bring a pretty similar skillset, but I like Seguin's playoff and European experience.

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My guess is that there will be two skaters not dressed for each game, with the coach making the decision. The same 13 forward, 7 defencemen system we usually see, but with two eligible skaters in the press box. That is a big part of the reason I want young guys for those roles.
Yeah, that seems reasonable and allows the coaching staff some flexibility without having too many bodies on the bench. We certainly don't want guys like Getzlaf up in the press box.

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My guess is that there will be two skaters not dressed for each game, with the coach making the decision. The same 13 forward, 7 defencemen system we usually see, but with two eligible skaters in the press box. That is a big part of the reason I want young guys for those roles.

Roster projecting is all the rage in the media now, so here are a few more.

Cam Cole, National Post: http://sports.nationalpost.com/2013/...lympic-hockey/

He doesn't give a concrete roster, but he does look at players who have risen or fallen and also the potential coaching staff.

Michael Traikos and Noah Love, National Post: http://sports.nationalpost.com/2013/...4-sochi-games/

First time I've seen brad Richards picked in a while, and he was picked at the expense of Tavares.

Alan Muir, Sports Illustrated: http://nhl.si.com/2013/02/08/sochi-2...ster-forecast/

Pretty solid team. It seems like most media prefer Hall to Seguin for now, which could be due to the weaker selection at LW. They bring a pretty similar skillset, but I like Seguin's playoff and European experience.
Thanks for these links. Canada thanks to Getzlaf's penalty in last year's meaningless World Championships has resulted in Canada being in the easiest pool for 2014. I applaud Getzlaf for that penalty now in a tournament nobody cares of. Canada will steamroll Finland, Norway and Austria and will get a relatively easy QF

matchup, easier semi-final match, and the toughest test in the final. If Canada's
goaltending holds up, i think Canada is the favourite to take the Gold Medal. I think Canada, Russia and USA are the three leading contenders right now. Just praying Luongo and Carey Price are lights out for the next year, so i can sleep better with our goaltending for 2014.

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Thanks for these links. Canada thanks to Getzlaf's penalty in last year's meaningless World Championships has resulted in Canada being in the easiest pool for 2014. I applaud Getzlaf for that penalty now in a tournament nobody cares of. Canada will steamroll Finland, Norway and Austria and will get a relatively easy QF

matchup, easier semi-final match, and the toughest test in the final. If Canada's
goaltending holds up, i think Canada is the favourite to take the Gold Medal. I think Canada, Russia and USA are the three leading contenders right now. Just praying Luongo and Carey Price are lights out for the next year, so i can sleep better with our goaltending for 2014.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but we're not going to steamroll Finland; they always field a strong team that's greater than the sum of their individual parts.

You've got to include Sweden as a contender, too; I'd argue they're better than the U.S., considering the international ice surface.

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I have TOI for 2010 somewhere, I'll try and dig it up.
http://www.iihf.com/channels10/olymp...tatistics.html

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but we're not going to steamroll Finland; they always field a strong team that's greater than the sum of their individual parts.

You've got to include Sweden as a contender, too; I'd argue they're better than the U.S., considering the international ice surface.
Yeah i meant to say Canada will steamroll Norway and Austria and will beat Finland. We happen to disagree, but i think Sweden and Finland are a step below Russia, USA and Canada. I could be wrong, especially since they have terrific goaltenders and i still remember how well Hasek played in 1998, so you can definetly not count them out. Time will tell, but maybe if Finland was still a part of Sweden like 200 years ago, they would definetly be the favourites (LOL). Maybe Czechs and Slovaks can send one team as well in 2014. Other than that, it is still a battle between Canada, USA and Russia for the top spot.

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