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02-13-2013, 02:37 PM
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Technically, yes. However, seeing how offer-sheeting can make your RFAs a future target, I'd rather we take this route.

I don't mean offer sheeting him. Just coming to an agreement before making a trade.

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I don't want Dallas to pay O'Reilly what he's asking for, and I don't think Dallas should trade for him.



Just considering what a Dallas package would have to look like ... I know they're looking for D.

Philip Larsen and Brett Ritchie/Alex Chaisson for O'Reilly
If Buffalo really has Myers on the block, something involving Myers for O'Reilly makes sense.

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So basically, what I gather from these last two posts of yours you agree with those of us complaining about him not playing but refuse to complain yourself, despite a difference of opinion about his ceiling.
I don't complain because I don't think it's that big of a deal. Scratching him a few games isn't the end of the world for this team or his future.

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I don't complain because I don't think it's that big of a deal. Scratching him a few games isn't the end of the world for this team or his future.
Is any of this a big deal? I mean.. it's sports.

What else is there if we can't complain about the little things?

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Ottawa losing Karlsson is huge. He's done for the season.

If Dallas was going to move a D, this is going to be a desperate situation for a team already hurting for D. Some were saying they could be a top option for Ryan O'Reilly, but I imagine they'll focus on D now.

It's probably too soon to expect Dallas to start moving D depth again. Nemeth has looked good, but I doubt they feel he's NHL ready. He immediately, at least likely, becomes the 8th D meaning there's a good chance injuries would force him into the lineup at some point. If not him ... that means Fortunus or Sloan ... Sneed possibly too.

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I'd rather see the Stars keep the d-men they have. A little depth is a good thing.

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I don't complain because I don't think it's that big of a deal. Scratching him a few games isn't the end of the world for this team or his future.
But what if it turns out to not be just a few games?

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I don't complain because I don't think it's that big of a deal. Scratching him a few games isn't the end of the world for this team or his future.
I too am concerned with the goings on in North Korea and the never-ending conflict in the Middle East. I guess we should just close up shop here.

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Ottawa losing Karlsson is huge. He's done for the season.

If Dallas was going to move a D, this is going to be a desperate situation for a team already hurting for D. Some were saying they could be a top option for Ryan O'Reilly, but I imagine they'll focus on D now.

It's probably too soon to expect Dallas to start moving D depth again. Nemeth has looked good, but I doubt they feel he's NHL ready. He immediately, at least likely, becomes the 8th D meaning there's a good chance injuries would force him into the lineup at some point. If not him ... that means Fortunus or Sloan ... Sneed possibly too.
s/b "ottawa"? not sure how karlsson's injury affects dallas. you're not your usual lucid self here, bigG.

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I too am concerned with the goings on in North Korea and the never-ending conflict in the Middle East. I guess we should just close up shop here.
I'm not talking about a bigger perspective on life. I mean what I said. It doesn't matter all that much for the team.

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02-14-2013, 12:14 PM
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s/b "ottawa"? not sure how karlsson's injury affects dallas. you're not your usual lucid self here, bigG.
People have been talking about trying to trade one of the smaller defensemen for weeks in order to open up a Top 6 spot for Philip Larsen.

I meant Dallas when I typed that because I was saying that there's now a team with a desperate need on defense, but I doubt Dallas is interested in making a move.

I suspected Ottawa would immediately start shopping for D, and their GM confirmed that this morning. Murray said no teams are willing to trade a roster player for anything other than a current roster player in return right now.

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Yeah, I think the problem is the Stars wouldn't get back enough in return to justify reducing their depth on D. They've been lucky with injuries so far and have had the luxury of rotating d-men for fresh legs or better matchups.

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02-14-2013, 01:17 PM
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Ottawa was fairly interested in Robidas a few years ago. I wonder if that's still true.

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02-14-2013, 02:15 PM
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Anyone else see how the Stars ratings are coming close to taking over the Mavs? I really hope it happens soon and the Mavs get to play on f-ing Sports+:

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Stars Gaining on Mavs in Dallas: The rather massive gap between the Dallas Mavericks and Dallas Stars has narrowed considerably. Fox Sports Southwest has averaged a 1.7 rating for Mavericks coverage this season (46 telecasts), down 44% from the same number of games last season (3.0). Meanwhile, the network has averaged a 1.0 for Stars games this season (10 telecasts) — up 94% from the first ten games last year (0.5). By comparison, Rangers games averaged a record 5.9 on FS Southwest last season. (Dallas Morning News)
Source: http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2013...ps-nhl-on-nbc/

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if i were ottawa, i'd be tempted to just tank this season. let the kids (zibanejad, da costa, wiercioch, silfverberg, etc.). see what they have in turris. maybe get something for gonchar at the deadline. come back strong next year with spezza, karlsson, and underrated jared cowen returning to the lineup.

to me, it doesn't make sense for ottawa to try and replace all their injury losses. trying to find fill-ins for spezza AND karlsson would hurt seriously their farm. not worth it.

i'd also rather preserve the stars' defensive depth. if warranted, trade only around the deadline.

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02-14-2013, 02:26 PM
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Why is anyone seriously worried about defensive depth on this club right now? Benn isn't so marginally worse than Robidas or how bad Goligoski's been. Oleksiak is up. Larsen's available. There are options and none of them are significantly worse than what they're playing right now anyway. If someone offers you something decent for any of our guys, especially Robidas, you take it and run.

Moving Larsen+ for O'Reilly or Robidas to Ottawa for a pick isn't a backwards move because really watching last night whoever is in the lineup can't play much worse anyway.

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Why is anyone seriously worried about defensive depth on this club right now? Benn isn't so marginally worse than Robidas or how bad Goligoski's been. Oleksiak is up. Larsen's available. There are options and none of them are significantly worse than what they're playing right now anyway. If someone offers you something decent for any of our guys, especially Robidas, you take it and run.

Moving Larsen+ for O'Reilly or Robidas to Ottawa for a pick isn't a backwards move because really watching last night whoever is in the lineup can't play much worse anyway.
Pretty much.

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Anyone else think that the Stars should send Reilly Smith back to Austin after this road trip? He's played in 12 games but hasn't scored a point and is only averaging 10:31 of ice time per game. Maybe its time for Fraser to get a shot. Let Fraser have 5 or 6 games and see if he can win a roster spot. Let Smith build up some confidence while getting plenty of ice time in Austin.

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Anyone else think that the Stars should send Reilly Smith back to Austin after this road trip? He's played in 12 games but hasn't scored a point and is only averaging 10:31 of ice time per game. Maybe its time for Fraser to get a shot. Let Fraser have 5 or 6 games and see if he can win a roster spot. Let Smith build up some confidence while getting plenty of ice time in Austin.
I've liked Smith's play, he has been unlucky not getting any points yet. I'd almost be down to send him down, keep Fraser down and have Texas go on a Calder Cup run. Have those young guys spend a full year together, and build a winning mentality. Wouldn't be too stoked on the Dallas' forwards though:

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Moving Larsen+ for O'Reilly or Robidas to Ottawa for a pick isn't a backwards move because really watching last night whoever is in the lineup can't play much worse anyway.
Well, I don't think Larsen+ would even get a return phone call for a guy like O'Reilly unless the + is something pretty substantial.

Isn't Robidas tied down with a no trade clause?

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Isn't Robidas tied down with a no trade clause?
Yes, and I imagine Dallas would have to be out of the picture to get him to waive it. On the other hand, the only Dallas Star player that I know of for certain with a true NTC is Morrow. Everyone else's has been limited in some way, and I've never seen details on Robidas from what I can remember.

If I was guessing, his is also limited ... like we eventually found out about Daley, Ott, and others.

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I've liked Smith's play, he has been unlucky not getting any points yet. I'd almost be down to send him down, keep Fraser down and have Texas go on a Calder Cup run. Have those young guys spend a full year together, and build a winning mentality. Wouldn't be too stoked on the Dallas' forwards though:

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We shouldn't give a **** about how the Texas Stars do. If that's what's best for their development, make it happen. Sending them down simply so they can go on a Calder Cup run is just stupid.

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Why is anyone seriously worried about defensive depth on this club right now? Benn isn't so marginally worse than Robidas or how bad Goligoski's been. Oleksiak is up. Larsen's available. There are options and none of them are significantly worse than what they're playing right now anyway. If someone offers you something decent for any of our guys, especially Robidas, you take it and run.

Moving Larsen+ for O'Reilly or Robidas to Ottawa for a pick isn't a backwards move because really watching last night whoever is in the lineup can't play much worse anyway.
defensive depth is useful in a compete now scenario, which i think the stars are still in currently. it'll require several things to align, but i don't consider a deep playoff run out of the question. in hockey, low seeded teams often make it the cup finals and sometimes win. the kings last year were pretty bad most of the season, rode a hot goalie, squeaked into the playoffs, and generally put things together towards the end. pardon my naivete, but imo, something like that is not totally inconceivable for the stars. also note how healthy the kings were during their cup run.

and despite their shortcomings, i'd still prefer/trust robidas + goligoski before anyone playing in austin at the moment.

now, if a team comes along with some sort of overpayment, then by all means, execute a trade.

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We shouldn't give a **** about how the Texas Stars do. If that's what's best for their development, make it happen. Sending them down simply so they can go on a Calder Cup run is just stupid.
You want the farm team to do well because a winning culture is a better place to develop young players. Obviously not at the expense of the Stars, but we do want them to do well.

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I don't mean offer sheeting him. Just coming to an agreement before making a trade.
Is that even possible for a RFA? Can you clarify?

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