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View Poll Results: What kind of atmosphere would you prefer at Canucks games?
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02-13-2013, 03:28 PM
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I find it hilarious how backwards the situation is.

The fans in the arena who like sitting quietly and watching the game undisturbed should be watching the games from home, and the fans who scream and cheer at their tv's at home/in pubs should be at the damn games!

Oh well. What can ya do.

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02-13-2013, 03:33 PM
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They should drop by during the playoffs.

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02-13-2013, 03:35 PM
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Everyone is too respectful of the guy who will sneer at you for cheering loudly while he's trying to have a conversation about the real estate market. Most of the posts I see here condemning loud cheering and heckling seem to think it is somehow self serving. Personally I'd much rather have an atmosphere like Winnipeg or Montreal than Calgary or Vancouver.

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we need more old ladies with cowbells tbqh

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02-13-2013, 04:13 PM
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Anybody remember the old Forum in Mtl, and the standing room tickets? The organists got the crowd going with the da da ta da ta da Charrrrrge! at just the right time. Obviously he was a fan and watched the game. And the fans were in unison with the Ohhhhhs and Ahhhhhhs and the yeAAAAAAHs and they didn't need anyone telling them to make noise. They knew when to make noise. But then again you didn't have corporate execs and their wives/husbands, lovers standing in the $2.50 section. I'm all for the return of the organist.
ok so i admit i'm older than dirt.

And it's futbol. And fans at home watching their TVs go to the windows and shout GOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL so that you know which team your neighbor supports. And even the Boca Juniors fans think Maradona has had just one too many snorts...of course they still hate River Plate.

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02-13-2013, 04:22 PM
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I was at game 1 of the finals in 2011 and that was I incredible. " constant go canucks go" " thomaaaasss" chants. Jumping to my feet on close chances, standing ovations for pks and going berserk for goals. Also yelling At refs.
You must have been incredibly drunk and forgotten most of the night.

Crowd was incredibly tense and quiet for most of the night (as it usually is now for most Vancouver playoff games - SJ Game 2 notwithstanding). Plus, there was only ONE goal that night, scored with 20 seconds left. No wonder the crowd erupted finally.

Going to Game 1 of the SCF was an incredible experience, but it was pretty hard to get any chants going in the upper bowl. Started off loud and then quickly tapered off. Everybody was too concerned with biting their nails and sitting on their hands.

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02-13-2013, 04:24 PM
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You must have been incredibly drunk and forgotten most of the night.

Crowd was incredibly tense and quiet for most of the night (as it usually is now for most Vancouver playoff games - SJ Game 2 notwithstanding). Plus, there was only ONE goal that night, scored with 20 seconds left. No wonder the crowd erupted finally.

Going to Game 1 of the SCF was an incredible experience, but it was pretty hard to get any chants going in the upper bowl. Started off loud and then quickly tapered off. Everybody was too concerned with biting their nails and sitting on their hands.
I was at game 1 of SCF as well and there was plenty of Thomas chants and constant Go Canucks Go, I was sober too lol.

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02-13-2013, 04:27 PM
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I was at game 1 of SCF as well and there was plenty of Thomas chants and constant Go Canucks Go, I was sober too lol.
Ya I was sober as well. And it was loud. I was standing most of the third as the canucks were coming in waves of attack leading up to the Torres goal.

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02-13-2013, 04:34 PM
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My opinion is that if I go to a game I don't want to hear obnoxious, non-stop screaming and hollering...if there is something to cheer/scream/holler for, by all means go for it...but if there is nothing going on in the game to cheer for, shut the **** up. The last thing I want to hear is meaningless noise from the obnoxious.

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02-13-2013, 04:56 PM
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Exciting games, or games that should be exciting, are dumbed down considerably without the accompanying cheering/noise. Being loud for the sake of it is irratating, but I find the silence after a big hit, goal, good save or incredible play (converting or not) even more so.

I was at the Chicago game with a few friends, and in the past a few other big games, and the crowd was just awful. Worse yet, many fans who tried to get the crowd going (waves, chants, cheers, even the occaisional boo for certain players, ie Keith) were told to stop. IT SAID IT IS PART OF THE TICKET THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO CHEER AND BE INTO THE GAME!!!

Further more, at this Chicago game, we had an incredibly drunk couple in front of us loudly arguing, then heavily petting, then yelling at each other, then making out, leaving for at least two "bathroom" trips, then fighting again all game complete with dramatic arm gestures, shoving, blocking our views for at least 2 rows, and our attempts to silence them went unheeded by Canucks security, even after sending the texts out and informing gentleman that showed us to our seats. All the violent drunken yelling and racial and sexual slurs shouted at anyone in a Chicago jersey (including a vet with an Esposito jersey who obviously wasn't just trying to stir the pot) were also not stopped, even when it went far, far, far beyond the limits of rivalry and trash talking.

This behaviour is ok, but trying to cheer your team on is being silenced?...Get it together Canucks staff...We are all Canucks, aren't we?

This has been repeated during game two against L.A. last season(including one drunk ***hat who tried starting a fight, infront of his kid, because someone applauded one of Brown's goals, which was objectively, a nice bit of work on Brown's part), a few Minnesota games, Chicago games, the last Calgary game I went to, both St. Louis games I've been to, etc, etc, etc for the last 5 or so years since I started going to watch Canuck games on my own buck (since my pay from work increased enough to allow such purchases for leisure).

Hooliganism seems to be tolerated, and cheering is being silenced....this is why I hate that every sales person seems to get lower bowl tickets to court clients, this is the kind of atmosphere it builds. After my last experience, I don't think I'll be back for a game either, I'd much rather watch games at home or at one of my favorite watering holes then be asked politely to not cheer.

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02-13-2013, 06:12 PM
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To expand on my proposal from earlier:

Crowd exceeds first tier average decibel level (no idea what that might be): free piece of pizza.
Exceed 2nd level: coupon for 25% off anything in the Canucks store.
Exceed 3rd level: an insured lottery takes place wherein everyone gets the value of their ticket refunded.

Best barn in the league.

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02-13-2013, 06:13 PM
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Only on solution for that then, buy a ticket and start cheering.
Do it all the time. You might be surprised how little impact one or two people have in the crowd of almost 19,000.

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02-13-2013, 06:16 PM
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This is what happens when you turn an NHL arena into a hip hangout spot for rich people.


It might make Aquaman more money, but it makes for a pathetic atmosphere for an actual hockey game.

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02-13-2013, 06:39 PM
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This is what happens when you turn an NHL arena into a hip hangout spot for rich people.


It might make Aquaman more money, but it makes for a pathetic atmosphere for an actual hockey game.
It has also helped put together a perennial contender, Just sayin.
I've been to one NHL game, man was the music loud. Then It stopped and it was silent. I thought if they want cheering then stop manufacturing noise, can't get one going over the noise.
Game wasn't at rogers arena so can't comment about that.
Also my personal opinion about soccer chanting is they have to do it because its dead boring, seriously they stop chanting for that 2.5 seconds a game something happens, I hate the sport though so...
I quite enjoy a good chant or sledge from the crowd, but as someone with a young family I can't stand drunken Idiots and obnoxious fans.
And the music that seems to be played at rogers is dreadful

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02-13-2013, 06:45 PM
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what i think of Canucks crowd

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02-13-2013, 06:46 PM
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I get the feeling that there's a certain class of people who are not welcome at games, and that I am one of them. Every game I've been to security is always on our case. I mean, an Edmonton fan dumps a beer on me, and I'm the one getting reamed out? Luckily as Canucks fans we are used to that sort of injustice from the officials, am I right? Heck, I have enough trouble just not getting kicked off these boards, much less out of a public sporting event.

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How frightfully rude. I hope someone stabs him in the eye.

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02-13-2013, 06:50 PM
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I get the feeling that there's a certain class of people who are not welcome at games, and that I am one of them. Every game I've been to security is always on our case. I mean, an Edmonton fan dumps a beer on me, and I'm the one getting reamed out? Luckily as Canucks fans we are used to that sort of injustice from the officials, am I right? Heck, I have enough trouble just not getting kicked off these boards, much less out of a public sporting event.
I do not want to paint you into a class as I don't know you, but the class that you say you represent, How much money dose that class have?

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02-13-2013, 06:54 PM
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It has also helped put together a perennial contender, Just sayin.
I've been to one NHL game, man was the music loud. Then It stopped and it was silent. I thought if they want cheering then stop manufacturing noise, can't get one going over the noise.
Game wasn't at rogers arena so can't comment about that.
Also my personal opinion about soccer chanting is they have to do it because its dead boring, seriously they stop chanting for that 2.5 seconds a game something happens, I hate the sport though so...
I quite enjoy a good chant or sledge from the crowd, but as someone with a young family I can't stand drunken Idiots and obnoxious fans.
And the music that seems to be played at rogers is dreadful
There's some teams that I find to be annoying, like the Rapid Clapping that Rapid Vienna do (did? been a while). Just clapping for AGES. Like entire games of constant clapping. It's insane.

But for my team we just usually chant when something has happened like a corner, a good save, good bit of play. Either about the player or the opponent or the team. To be honest, I don't listen to other team's chants, but many of our ones have a bit of humour to them.

I'd say it's no worse than that stupid goalie name thing a lot of people do over there. It irritates me so much. It's something you'd expect of a five year old, but you see grown men doing it all the time. How is their own name going to possibly bother anyone!?!?!


EDIT: And Smokey: Get a haircut hippie!

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There's some teams that I find to be annoying, like the Rapid Clapping that Rapid Vienna do (did? been a while). Just clapping for AGES. Like entire games of constant clapping. It's insane.

But for my team we just usually chant when something has happened like a corner, a good save, good bit of play. Either about the player or the opponent or the team. To be honest, I don't listen to other team's chants, but many of our ones have a bit of humour to them.

I'd say it's no worse than that stupid goalie name thing a lot of people do over there. It irritates me so much. It's something you'd expect of a five year old, but you see grown men doing it all the time. How is their own name going to possibly bother anyone!?!?!


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I'm from NZ and I can say that I'm not alone in saying that this part of the world loves a packed house singing flower of Scotland and can't stand a packed house singing Swing low sweet chariot.

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02-13-2013, 07:07 PM
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in support of the Vancouver Canucks at Rogers Arena is apparently frowned upon.

Or at least that's what several members of the Southsiders, the Vancouver Whitecaps main supporters group, found out during Tuesday's hockey game between the Canucks and the Minnesota Wild — just 12 games into the NHL season following a 113-day lockout.

Attending the match together to cheer on the hometown team while providing a lively soccer-style atmosphere, the group of about 75 — seated in the last four rows of the upper bowl — were told by a "Canucks rep" they were not allowed to stand while action on the ice was underway. It eventually led to the ejection of two fans after the first period, and turned a night of celebration into a sour situation for the select section of supporters.

"At the first intermission, they (Canucks staff) came up to us and told us, 'You can't stand, you can't block the view of the people,'" Kristjan Aug told 24 hours following the Canucks 2-1 win. "We were in the upper nose bleeds, just nothing to block, no box suites, no group of guys on their Blackberries or stuff like that.

"They thought by standing we were either going to block people's view, that was their first argument, and then when we pointed out everybody was standing, they said, 'Oh, you'll fall over the railings.'"

A third fan a few rows down was later ejected for reportedly taking his shirt off, but the Southsiders deny he was with the group.

Throughout most of the game, especially in the first period, the small vocal contingent in section 301 serenaded the typically quiet crowd with songs and chants — a similar approach to what they regularly do at Whitecaps games. They got their tickets, worth about $60 each, through a charter bus line group.

"We really wanted to be pro-Canucks, pro-atmosphere and support the team beyond imagination," said Aug, who led most of the organized ovations. "There really wasn't any negativity until the security guards started hassling us in the first intermission."

Despite a concrete wall behind them, the 24-year-old Whitecaps season-ticket holder claimed he was told by team personnel that they were obstructing the view of those near them. He, along with other Southsiders, offered to switch seats, allowing anyone who preferred sitting to move to the front of the standing section.

Kyle Gower, who was one of first the two fans kicked out, said in an email he also suggested moving to accommodate those who complained. But security wouldn't oblige.

"I then said I paid for this seat and am free to support the Canucks how I want," he wrote. "He then asked how much I had to drink which I responded one. He said I think you've had enough and asked if I would sit down for the remainder of the game and not have any more to drink. I responded by saying possibly and he said, "you're done, you're out of here." I then got escorted out of the building and my ticket revoked."

Victor de Bonis, the Canucks' chief operating officer, said Wednesday that he personally enjoyed the atmosphere the Southsiders brought — noting the majority of the group was very respectful.

But with no prior awareness that they were going to be at the game, "senior people" were told to pay attention to the section.

"For the most part, that worked out fine but there were some locations that had some sightline issues for other fans," de Bonis said. "We asked four or five times to have those folks respect that, and they didn't seem to work out and it got a little bit aggressive and we asked them to leave. It was unfortunate, but at the end of the day you got to do what is the best for the interest of everybody there."

When asked whether there was a policy on not standing up while play was going on, de Bonis said he was unaware of that but added there were people "in other angles that couldn't see the ice surface."

Daniel Hiltenkamp, who sat in section 302, said the Southsiders helped liven up the spirit and he didn't see anyone act abusively or obstruct others' ability to watch the game.

"We were sitting basically right next to them, there was nobody behind them. It didn't really affect anybody's view," the 27-year-old said, adding the cheering was creative and fun. "It was a little different, it didn't throw the game off for me. It would have been cool if more people got involved in the chants, but some people weren't used to it and didn't know how to react."


Ironically, a Southsiders member was later named "Fan of the Game" and won a free Canucks jersey.

As for Aug, he said he will never attend another Canucks game and called the situation "beyond disappointing."

"This has been the worst experience I've had as a fan, absolutely," he said. "This completely destroyed my faith in the entire organization. It's just awful the way they treat their fans, the ones that actually create an atmosphere. I met two ushers that came up to us and said we were doing a great job. Then there were the guys who were … trying to get us to sit down, trying to get us to shut up. It's just terrible."

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Generally speaking, if you raise ticket prices, you're going to get a more sedate crowd. It would be nice if tickets were cheaper, but hockey rinks can't handle the half the attendance a football stadium can, and if you're selling half the tickets it only makes sense to double the prices.

That being said it would also be nice if the crowd at Roger's could remove the collective stick from their ***** once in a while.

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From what I've seen, the Southsiders are into a bit of fun, but they're also image-conscious. Any behaviour that would shed a negative light on the group would be discouraged by the majority of the membership.
Sounds like I'd fit right in.

Kind of typical that this whole town's whole mantra for long was "Rogers Arena is so quiet" and now that a group tried they don't mind that it's quiet.

Obviously I'm not referring to HF, as I believe most of you are less casual of fans than regular game-goers tend to be, but this city collectively has a bad case of "the grass is always greener" type mentality.

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I do not want to paint you into a class as I don't know you, but the class that you say you represent, How much money dose that class have?
About $500?

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I'm from NZ and I can say that I'm not alone in saying that this part of the world loves a packed house singing flower of Scotland and can't stand a packed house singing Swing low sweet chariot.
I had to stop watching rugby when the English won back in 2002..ish? I was watching that final in a Bar Oz in Edinburgh with a bunch of English...lovely people that I worked with. I've never forgiven the Aussies for letting that happen.


EDIT: That and Scotland now su-uuu-uuu-ck now. I'm an unashamed glory hunter for rugby because it's not even a third or fourth love.

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