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02-13-2013, 07:06 PM
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Boston never gets the kind of disrespect our team gets.

Have you already seen Seguin drop the gloves? Or anybody trying to take Krejci's knee out? Have you already seen anybody challenging the whole Boston bench?

An HW enforcer isn't the solution to every problem we have on that aspect, but it sure as hell helps to have one out there to keep guys like Orr or McLaren in check. And you better believe me when I tell you Buffalo will try something dirty in the next 3 games, after having faced them 5 times within half a season.
Pittsburgh 2 years ago had Rupp Engelland and Godard...and they had some of their players run and Crosby injured with a head shot.

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A MUST read for all the anti-enforcers on this board.

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100% agree with waffledave. It's shocking how many Habs fans like seeing their team taking abuse and being the laughing stock of the league.
the "shocking" part actually is guys like you thinking that.

I couldnt care less what fans of other teams, in other cities, cities I dont plan on going even for the most part, think of the Habs.

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02-13-2013, 07:08 PM
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Pittsburgh 2 years ago had Rupp Engelland and Godard...and they had some of their players run and Crosby injured with a head shot.
Yeah but it wasn't cause a guy went after his head, the guy turned and crosby was right there, an accident can happen to anyone

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02-13-2013, 07:12 PM
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I like the "****ing" you put here and there. Really adds a lot of credibility to your post.

As for teams doing well with a HW, choose your poison. There are at least 11-12 teams out there just in the Eastern Conference that have one of those.

Pittsburgh has Engelland
Washington has Erskine > think he said teams doing WELL or something...
Philadelphia has Shelley > yeah, on top of the league, right ?
Florida has Parros > sure, the "myghty" Panthers...
Carolina has Westgarth > thie W/L column is the same as the Habs...
NJ has Barch, had Janssen at some point this year.

Just to name a few. I'd say NJ, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia could teach us a thing or two about having success in this league.
guess your definition of doing well is different.

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Pittsburgh 2 years ago had Rupp Engelland and Godard...and they had some of their players run and Crosby injured with a head shot.
You're talking about this?



Does Steckel actually look like a guy who's running out of his way to injure Crosby out there? Have you already seen Steckel play? This guy is softer than butter.

No kidding. Cheap shots are going to happen. Hockey is a quick sport. A HW isn't some kind of wizard who's going to prevent anything bad from happening to any of your player. But nothing that happened last Saturday, or in the first Ottawa game will happen.

A guy like Neil would think about it much more before running around and chirping/intimidating our players with a guy like Kassian on the bench. And Orr would probably have had to answer for his act, or else, it would have been McLaren. That would have prevented Gorges from getting laughed at and having to drop the gloves against a monster.

No matter what I'm going to say here anyway, you guys will always believe it's not that bad and that our team is getting respect. Good for you, keep living in that dream. This team ain't winning anything as long as it keeps happening.

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02-13-2013, 07:16 PM
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guess your definition of doing well is different.
You should actually all parts of a post and take things in context before commenting with small sentences that just show how few arguments you actually have.

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02-13-2013, 07:20 PM
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You should actually all parts of a post and take things in context before commenting with small sentences that just show how few arguments you actually have.
context, lemme see...

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As for teams doing well with a HW, choose your poison. There are at least 11-12 teams out there just in the Eastern Conference that have one of those.
you're sayin ?

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context, lemme see...



you're sayin ?
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There are at least 11-12 teams out there just in the Eastern Conference that have one of those.
I'm not going to argue semantics with you, but this sentence is pretty damn obvious. Especially with the sentence that followed the list. I'm not going to give English lessons here. So whenever you want to discuss hockey, something you don't look particularly fond of, come back.

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02-13-2013, 07:39 PM
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I'm not going to argue semantics with you, but this sentence is pretty damn obvious. Especially with the sentence that followed the list. I'm not going to give English lessons here. So whenever you want to discuss hockey, something you don't look particularly fond of, come back.
on a list of teams doing well, of the 6 or 7 you listed, only two are above .500...

so, wich are the teams doing WELL you think ?



dont bother, I couldnt care less how good/bad my english is. Happy the way it is now.

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Gauthier still lives on in the hearts and minds of many Canadiens fans.

Pierre, why did you have to leave? Your transformation of this team into total non-fighters was almost complete. Damn.........

Weber needs you.

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02-13-2013, 07:54 PM
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Your post had a big capslocked 'EVER' in it. So, are we discussing the existence of these situations or the tendency? Being more clear in your posts would do a lot of good towards making this conversation a bit healthier.
Cute little trick.

You know absolutism does not exist in hockey.

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Cute little trick.

You know absolutism does not exist in hockey.
Which is exactly why I called it out. All it does is muddy up debate.

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02-13-2013, 08:21 PM
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Pittsburgh 2 years ago had Rupp Engelland and Godard...and they had some of their players run and Crosby injured with a head shot.
Didn't they win the cup with those players?

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guess your definition of doing well is different.
All the top teams in the NHL have a better enforcer than we have.

Except for the Hawks maybe... It's not like they have two players of Plekanec's(Or better) caliber.

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02-13-2013, 08:33 PM
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All the top teams in the NHL have a better enforcer than we have.

Except for the Hawks maybe... It's not like they have two players of Plekanec's(Or better) caliber.
thanks for helping the guy I was asking this to

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When Montreal was dominant, up until the early parts of the 90's, they had enforcers. Todd freaking Ewen was there in the 90's. No virtuoso either.

A team needs one. The last team to ever think the opposite was Buffalo. They have changed their minds. Now the Last Mohicans are the Habs.

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Habs need a heavyweight or teams like Bruins, Flyers and apparently the Leafs will just beat the **** out of them.

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Good thing the Sens have Chris Neil to protect their stars from injury.

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When Montreal was dominant, up until the early parts of the 90's, they had enforcers. Todd freaking Ewen was there in the 90's. No virtuoso either.

A team needs one. The last team to ever think the opposite was Buffalo. They have changed their minds. Now the Last Mohicans are the Habs.
Detroit, Nashville, Phoenix and Washington all took less major penalties than Montreal last season, and made the playoffs. The only Red Wing with more than 2 majors was Abdelkader.

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Detroit, Nashville, Phoenix and Washington all took less major penalties than Montreal last season, and made the playoffs. The only Red Wing with more than 2 majors was Abdelkader.
You're talking about the team that had Probert, Kocur and McCarthy, right?

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Detroit, Nashville, Phoenix and Washington all took less major penalties than Montreal last season, and made the playoffs. The only Red Wing with more than 2 majors was Abdelkader.
Yet they still had tougher players than us. This argument is legitimate. Oh wait, No its not.

Carolina sucked last year and Detroit had some kind of all-star line up.


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Lol who is saying enforcers prevent injuries? People just want to stop seeing beat downs.

And fighting majors? Does Moen/White losing all their fights make the Habs a tough team?

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Pittsburgh 2 years ago had Rupp Engelland and Godard...and they had some of their players run and Crosby injured with a head shot.
Dude, it's not perfect, it helps! Do snipers score 82 goals a season? Do goalies have shutouts every game? The fact is that Pittsburgh as Boston were never intimidatd by other teams like we've been over the last decade. Injuries will still happen just like in any sport.

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Detroit, Nashville, Phoenix and Washington all took less major penalties than Montreal last season, and made the playoffs. The only Red Wing with more than 2 majors was Abdelkader.
Is Nashville playing five time against the Bruins or the Laffs?

Either you are very young and have not a lot of hockey 'baggage' behind the ears, or you have a selective memory. Until Houle, Andre, Bob and the vegan and his cronies (that got regularly spanked by a goonish Laffs team when they were part of the Hens' organisation I might add) put their wuss stamp on this roster, we always had to count on heavyweights. The NHL has not changed a bit in that regard since the hay days of the regular melees generales.

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